Hello to all! I am trying to make my diy ffb rhino ( Winger ) to work with IL2 sturmovik and have an

Hello to all! I am trying to make my diy ffb rhino ( Winger ) to work with IL2 sturmovik and have an issue with that. I only use ffb configurator not telemffb yet and i am loosing spring tension effect while trying to fly in IL2. I have enabled ffb inside il2 and when i disable it i am not loosing spring effect from my ffb rhino joystick. I have read somewhere else for another guy facing the same issue. I also face regular il2 crashes ( game suddenly stops and throws me out) when i use diy rhino ffb. Any solution to this? Thanks!

Ff14billy Wow how long is your extension?

*NOB*Aries•10/1/24, 5:50 AM

the Virpil one... 200mm
https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-flightstick-extension-200mm.html

VPC Flightstick Extension - 200mm

★ 200mm Flightstick Extension
★ "S-Curve" perfect for center mount setups
★ Increased Precision and Smoother Handling
★ Allows for Offset Grip Rotation - Perfect for Center Mounted Setups
★ Includes Cable Extension
★ Metal Construction

Ddgiatr Hello to all! I am trying to make my diy ffb rhino ( Winger ) to work with IL2 s...

Col. Sanders•10/1/24, 6:06 AM

Use Telemffb

CCol. Sanders Use Telemffb

dgiatrOP•10/1/24, 6:20 AM

Thank you! I will do that..

HrEple•10/1/24, 6:23 AM

I somehow destroyed the threads on my 20 mm Virpil extension. Suspecting it’s not up to handling the forces of the rhino. Ordered a 10 mm straight extension now to see if it will hold. So word of warning there, even though the gooseneck looks awesome and feels good.

HHrEple I somehow destroyed the threads on my 20 mm Virpil extension. Suspecting it’s no...

kaltokri•10/1/24, 6:30 AM

I don't have any problem with it. But I don't use my Rhino as a muscle training machine. I like to have feedback not Arm wrestling.

But that is personal taste.

HrEple•10/1/24, 6:35 AM

Puny! No idea how I did it, truth be told. It just went wonky between the grip and extension. Maybe I’m just too awesome?

HHrEple Puny! No idea how I did it, truth be told. It just went wonky between the grip a...

*NOB*Aries•10/1/24, 6:46 AM

Try to tighten the screws that connect virpil extension with the top of the extension with the threads... it's two separate parts and can get loose... I lost a few months of trying to tighten tge stick better to not have clinging left right... in the end, it was all about the top of the extension and not the threads or the grip...

HrEple•10/1/24, 6:55 AM

Oh snap. I’ll look into that. Can remember a screw on top. Somehow the grip started flopping to either side just a bit - like there was some play introduced. Extremely annoying.

HHrEple Oh snap. I’ll look into that. Can remember a screw on top. Somehow the grip star...

*NOB*Aries•10/1/24, 9:48 AM

That's exactly it...

Hiob•10/1/24, 10:15 AM

Guys, the 200mm extension has two connecting pieces screwed in on either side. Those screws can become loose. Retighten them with some loctide. Also the TM grip (if used) has some annoying play in itself. If anybody has a problem with that, I can help.

Hiob•10/1/24, 10:16 AM

If you destroy the threads by just using the Rhino as intended .... may god help you.....

VPforceBot•10/1/24, 11:32 AM

:package:

RHINO #0712 Has Shipped!

**NOB*Aries be carefull with the new update... stick went so hard forward in DCS Tomcat that...

HornetDRIVER•10/1/24, 12:20 PM

Did this happen in flight or during load-in???

*NOB*Aries•10/1/24, 12:56 PM

In flight... it tends to get this springy oscilation effect that seems to increase in force with every swing... something like microphony...

just didn't hold it strong enough... slipped... hit the edge and the weight of the warthog grip was too much...

Ddgiatr Hello to all! I am trying to make my diy ffb rhino ( Winger ) to work with IL2 s...

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•10/1/24, 1:08 PM

There is really No reason Not to use telemffb. In fact thats where all the effects goodness cones from. You only Strip yourself of a big chunk of immersion and customisability effects wise by Not using telemffb

**NOB*Aries In flight... it tends to get this springy oscilation effect that seems to increa...

Anthony•10/1/24, 1:17 PM

That sounds exactly like the effect I got when I’d upped some of the strength effects way too high in the beginning

VKNG•10/1/24, 1:35 PM

Is there info in the manual on how to get the rhino to keep stored profiles in my winwing grip? I keep having to reset my keybindings it seems like.

VVKNG Is there info in the manual on how to get the rhino to keep stored profiles in m...

walmis•10/1/24, 4:00 PM

WinWing grip doesn't have anything stored in it, can you elaborate what's happening with your keybinds exactly?

Wwalmis WinWing grip doesn't have anything stored in it, can you elaborate what's happen...

VKNG•10/1/24, 4:26 PM

It just feels like i’m constantly having to rebind my buttons. Even after manually saving profiles inside dcs to the FFB. For instance i got in yesterday and after loading in a new profile on the config and starting up telemffb for the first time, all of my keybinds were gone in the KW and actually a few were bound to things i never bound nor would ever imagine binding them to. For instance the collective axis was bound to my left and right directions on my trim hat switch.

I just figured maybe there was something on my end that was causing the keybinds to keep getting changed.

walmis•10/1/24, 4:29 PM

Check the the DCS input configuration files, maybe different Rhino profiles change the device ident and the game recognizes as a different joystick?
You can copy-paste the content from the lua files manually to restore the keybindings.

Wwalmis Check the the DCS input configuration files, maybe different Rhino profiles chan...

buzzbomb•10/1/24, 4:43 PM

this is likely the case. you can also just select load and then select your saved .diff.lua file

buzzbomb•10/1/24, 4:46 PM

dcs will also assign [very poorly] defaults when it finds what it thinks is a new device

Duchess ✈•10/1/24, 7:05 PM

I am going to do a new rig, and have been looking at the NLR Boeing rig... anyone NOT suggest this rig for the Rhino?

DDuchess ✈I am going to do a new rig, and have been looking at the NLR Boeing rig... anyon...

Col. Sanders•10/1/24, 7:41 PM

I'd be careful. The new Boeing designs tend to fall apart...

CCol. Sanders I'd be careful. The new Boeing designs tend to fall apart...😂

Duchess ✈•10/1/24, 7:42 PM

Ouch!

AndyHill•10/1/24, 8:27 PM

are there doors on it

DDuchess ✈I am going to do a new rig, and have been looking at the NLR Boeing rig... anyon...

VKNG•10/1/24, 8:56 PM

I have the Monstertech chair and love it

VKNG•10/1/24, 8:56 PM

The Rhino is ROCK SOLID on it. Zero movement even under heavy loads

DDuchess ✈I am going to do a new rig, and have been looking at the NLR Boeing rig... anyon...

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 8:56 PM

why not proper MTM Rig? NLR is scam

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 8:57 PM

at least noname 4080 profile rig (or simracing), never go NLR, it's a waste of money

XXaero Zero at least noname 4080 profile rig (or simracing), never go NLR, it's a waste of m...

VKNG•10/1/24, 8:59 PM

Yea i have a few buddies that have the NLR rig and they all have AT LEAST 2-3 decent complaints about it. That being said i’ve never sat in one so can’t say from experience.

VVKNG Yea i have a few buddies that have the NLR rig and they all have AT LEAST 2-3 de...

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:00 PM

I had it for 4 months, luckily sold it, worst piece of *** i ever had

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:02 PM

on the other hand, MTM Chair costs 1 grand, while "Boeing" !LOL! branded NLR is like 300-400.
Even tho MTM prices are biting, there is quality and expandability there, with NLR you locked into some bodge and figuring out how to overcome issues, it's not worth your time

Duchess ✈•10/1/24, 9:02 PM

Hmmm... guys I have talked to have had good experience with it, but I will look at others. It is as a secondary flight rig.

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:02 PM

I've bought 1k+ chairs, never regret, get MTM seat and (cordura) and proper 4080 rig, can be simracing

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:03 PM

problem with NLR is that they use square tube pipe, don't ask me how bad that design is compared to profile

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:03 PM

Chair and RIg = not same thing, not same company at least

Duchess ✈•10/1/24, 9:03 PM

I have a sim racing rig, just need one to mount the rhino on to use in VR for helos, A-10 and generic flight.

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:03 PM

you can get good TrakRacer rig for same money

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:04 PM

it's the chair that makes a difference... you as virtual pilot/racer have only 3 contact points on rig:
- the butt aka the chair
- hands aka the Rhino
- foot aka the pedals

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:05 PM

those 3 components have to be top noch, rest is subjective

Duchess ✈•10/1/24, 9:05 PM

I have the chair, just need a frame to mount Rhino, throttle, pedals and UFC/keyboard.

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:06 PM

then get some TR160 baseline, it's a rig for life, for any upgrades

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:07 PM

TR120 is weavy, might cause issues, but 120mm profiles are more then enough, unfortunately TR switched to this wide body design that is kinda meh

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:07 PM

and never get simlab angular standoffs also )

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:08 PM

any 120/160 profile straight rig with proper 90 uprights will work

Duchess ✈•10/1/24, 9:09 PM

Taking a look now.

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:10 PM

MTM has better features built in, if you can afford MTM, get atleast their baseline

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:11 PM

they have special cutoff and mount system for center joystick, worth extra. Simracing rig will require some mods to get work, mainly due to seating position, the angle between pedals and seat is much lower on simracing compared to MTM

Xaero Zero•10/1/24, 9:12 PM

on MTM you sit more upright, much more suitable for Flight, and also have some extra space under the seat. With simracing rig you need to order extra profiles to make it same height. In the end it will end up same cost as MTM

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