When you have no position readings of the motors - have you checked the hardware? Maybe the pulley c
When you have no position readings of the motors - have you checked the hardware? Maybe the pulley came loose on the motor axis.
HFor all I can say, wether the application FFB works properly or not. The raw readings in VP config should show the slightest movement.
NAt the risk of asking stupid questions…did you calibrate the axes in configurator?
HI did and steps are also at 2048 in mid position
HPiñon is perfect mounted at the motor. When power is of, cogging is in the full travel. Strange is that both devices has exactly the same behavior
HHmm, maybe check the gain map for issues.... other than that no ideas at the moment
IHey everyone, for the last few days I've had problems with my rhino in DCS, when either the roll axis or both are not generating any force. When I exit DCS it goes back to spring mode and becomes alive. Everything looks ok in the configurator, so it doesn't seem like a hardware/firmware issue, it's just in game. It used to just work, not sure what happened. I think the only thing I changed was the telemffb update.
Has anyone had similar issues?
Has anyone had similar issues?
NTo rule out any of the override features you may have inadvertently enabled, does the same happen without TelemFFB running? Remember that the spring effect is part of the native sim implementation, not TelemFFB.
NThe blue dot does not smoothly follow the axis as you move it through the range of motion? A short clip showing the configurator window as your moving the axis might shed some light.
Iyes, the same happens once I start DCS, with or without TelemFFB. What override features are you referring to?
NThere’s the general spring override, there are configurator gain overrides, etc.
Are you by chance using SimHaptic?
Are you by chance using SimHaptic?
INot using simhaptic.
The thing is I haven't changed anything in the settings recently, so I can't imagine it's related. I can only thing of either the telemffb update and dcs update
The thing is I haven't changed anything in the settings recently, so I can't imagine it's related. I can only thing of either the telemffb update and dcs update
NLike I said, TelemFFB doesn’t do anything with the spring and obviously if it’s not running, it’s not doing anything at all.
Did you double check FFB didn’t disable itself in DCS?
What specifically are you flying?
Did you double check FFB didn’t disable itself in DCS?
What specifically are you flying?
HTeleFFB is off and I have that problem. Blue dot is not moving when starting the movement until the Force starts. Pinion is perfectly mounted for sure. We are speaking of only the standby behaviour at the moment. In Xplane the deadzone is the same... I upload a video now. Feels like there is an encoder plate loose and giving no signal.... But on two motors and controllers at the same way. Independent Controller, independent Power Supply.
HHHNWhen you run the auto calibrate, does the dot move the full range of the axis?
HNo
HReseted Config… same Problem
HSorry
HPinions on Rudder and Collective were loose the same time 
HWhen Power was of, the cogging was on the complete travel, so I thought the pinions are ok...
NIt happens
Hsee 
that was an educated guess from experience!
that was an educated guess from experience!H20 Years of being a field service engineer teached me to be sceptical when an error is the same on two units.... But it learned me also never trust new spare parts.... even after changing two times , both spare parts can be broken :-9
Ithere's a "force feedback" checkbox in dcs, if that's what you mean. I tried both f-18 and f-16. The strange thing is that sometimes the pitch axis does work, without any changes to anything.
HThe Rhino is first a machine designed to shake itself apart and second a fun input device. 
The loose pinion gear wasn’t the last thing I had to retighten and fixate with loctide.
The loose pinion gear wasn’t the last thing I had to retighten and fixate with loctide.HOk, Now I understand the name "joystick" 
BI mounted a couple of transducers to a recliner once for movie watching.
It was potent but cheap kit, it could make the 80lbs chair rattle across the floor like an old nokia phone would across a glass table.
With my 200lbs butt sitting in it.
And the chair was just shaken beyond function in a matter of months.
It was potent but cheap kit, it could make the 80lbs chair rattle across the floor like an old nokia phone would across a glass table.
With my 200lbs butt sitting in it.
And the chair was just shaken beyond function in a matter of months.
CHey all, I'm new to this joystick and having issues with the AH64. When I force trim it snaps the stick almost all the way to the right. I have the special settings to INSTANT TRIM and the pedals to WITHOUT SPRINGS AND FFB
CAh I figured it out. The "swap axis" box was checked, which inhibited it form working.
NAs a rule, to ensure a proper experience:
- Make sure the axes directions are set correctly in configurator such that the position dot follow the stick inputs correctly. This ensures that “FFB direction” and “axis direction” are in sync.
- don’t use curves in DCS axis settings
- don’t use saturation in DCS axis settings
HG'day @walmis , unfortunately my WinWing adapter snapped at the threaded collar.
Could you let me know how to get another or if there's an stl I can try to print a replacement.
#VPF-0702
Cheers.
Could you let me know how to get another or if there's an stl I can try to print a replacement.
#VPF-0702
Cheers.
H
P@walmis sorry to ping you, but just about to use my rhino in a dcs op first time since the recalibration you did. Is it ok for me to import & apply old config profiles or will that break the new calibration you did on the x motor?
HI don't know of course what Walmis did with your motor, but in general the auto calibration in the VP config is supposed to be a user level exercise that can (and must) be performed whenever you change something, like installing a throw limiter, change or re-tighten the belts etc.
So I think it is save to say, that you certainly won't break anything if you do a calibration. Just look at the monitor in the config tab and see if everything is properly centered. Otherwise do a calibration.
So I think it is save to say, that you certainly won't break anything if you do a calibration. Just look at the monitor in the config tab and see if everything is properly centered. Otherwise do a calibration.
PNah walmis did some sort of motor recalibration. It all looked like ancient runes & magic to me 
HI think that is saved on a deep firmware level and not affected by user profiles.
Pawesome, thanks for your help m8
ZStupid question. Are the PC fans required for VPForce 5V or 12V.
HBeauty, cheers mate!
H12V
ZThanks
Ai've had this re-calibration done as well. nothing you do with the configurator will have an effect on this, so you're good to go
Pcheers m8, good to know
RWhy are users needing or getting a motor recalibration and how would I know if I need it?
HWhen you don't know if you need it - you don't need it.
HSometimes the motors act up - and Walmis can usually fix that remotely - but if you don't encounter any problems. Don't worry.
OAny idea what the the wait time is going to be like for Virpil FLNKR compatibility?