can someone tell me what the Z is i cannot seem to find what it is but its always doing input making

can someone tell me what the Z is i cannot seem to find what it is but its always doing input making it hard to configure axis settings

VVPS_Choki can someone tell me what the Z is i cannot seem to find what it is but its alway...

f14billy•10/18/24, 6:54 PM

Which grip are you using and which grip is selected in the configuration?

DDimitris Thank you. I'll do it that way for the time being, but if anyone knows please gi...

Subsonic•10/18/24, 7:29 PM

Nothing to change. That is best practice, relayed to me by the man himself.

Dimitris•10/18/24, 7:30 PM

Yes, but it didn't work for me. I followed your steps line by line

Dimitris•10/18/24, 7:31 PM

raw x,y values never landed at 2000 range

Ff14billy Which grip are you using and which grip is selected in the configuration?

VPS_ChokiOP•10/18/24, 7:39 PM

using a warbrd and i chose warbrd

VVPS_Choki using a warbrd and i chose warbrd

Number481•10/18/24, 8:16 PM

Z is usually the twist axis. If you don't have the version of the grip with the twist axis, you don't need to worry about it

VPS_ChokiOP•10/18/24, 8:17 PM

is there a way to disable this cause it always saying im using the Z axis

VVPS_Choki is there a way to disable this cause it always saying im using the Z axis

f14billy•10/18/24, 8:41 PM

Have you tried doing a calibration in windows? Since there will be no input in the z axis maybe it will center it for you.

Press Windows Key + R, type joy.cpl and press enter.

Select the controller on the list > Properties > Settings tab > Calibrate

VPS_ChokiOP•10/18/24, 8:41 PM

i mean i have the twist axis but i dont want to use it sorry i should have said that

f14billy•10/18/24, 8:42 PM

Calibrate the twist axis in windows. That should center it.

VPS_ChokiOP•10/18/24, 8:42 PM

thank u will try

DDimitris raw x,y values never landed at 2000 range

Subsonic•10/18/24, 9:54 PM

Worked for me every time
My current raw values are 1870 and 2390

SSubsonic Worked for me every time My current raw values are 1870 and 2390

Dimitris•10/19/24, 6:32 AM

That's strange.

My process was:

Centering tool
Motors on
click on Auto calibrate
Set X,Ymin=0 X,Ymax=4096
click on Auto calibrate, then Apply Settings, then Store Settings
Remove centering tool

raw_x, raw_y never on target.
joystick not calibrated, since I never moved the stick to max positions.

If I follow the instructions on the app:
(without centering tool)

click on Auto calibrate
move stick to max positions
click on Auto calibrate
Store settings

then raw_x, raw_y still not on 2000 target while centered
but at least my stick is calibrated

Ff14billy My guess is that those steps are to reset everything before a calibration to avo...

Dimitris•10/19/24, 6:43 AM

that's my guess, too, since after connecting the boot, protomaker's manual says to repeat the calibration process, as in the vpforce manual this time

Dimitris•10/19/24, 6:46 AM

but protomaker's steps never worked for me. raw_x ranges from aprox -1100 to +1100 and raw_y ranges from aprox -175 to +2400

Hiob•10/19/24, 7:14 AM

@Dimitris @Subsonic (Protomaker) That can only work, when the Belt is put on with the motor axis in the right position. The Motoraxis has a marking that needs to be to point north before the belt is put on. Another method, that I find easier, is to first set the calibration manually to 0-4096, save and apply, activate the spring and THEN put on the belts.

Hiob•10/19/24, 7:15 AM

That way, the axis will orient itself properly and you can put on the belt at the right position. With or without the centering tool (which I found to be obsolete)

HHiob @Dimitris @Subsonic (Protomaker) That can only work, when the Belt is put on wit...

Dimitris•10/19/24, 8:09 AM

Huge thanks! I did what you said and everything is perfect now. It also makes perfect sense.

Dimitris•10/19/24, 8:10 AM

Also, very happy I didn't need to unscrew the boot cover to use again the centering tool

Ff14billy Calibrate the twist axis in windows. That should center it.

VPS_ChokiOP•10/19/24, 9:07 AM

sadly it didnt work it still is like always activation z axis

VVPS_Choki sadly it didnt work it still is like always activation z axis

Number481•10/19/24, 11:04 AM

does your grip have the twist axis or not?

f14billy•10/19/24, 12:19 PM

If your grip has the twist axis locked it may be locked while twisted to one side. I would unlock it and see if the readings in the configurator change as you twist it and lock it when it's in the center. If you twist it and there is no change in the reading then there may be an issue with your twist axis sensor in the grip itself.

f14billy•10/19/24, 12:21 PM

https://support.virpil.com/en/support/solutions/articles/47001100343-how-to-attach-vpc-grip

VIRPIL Controls Support Center

How to Attach VPC Grip

Attaching Your VPC Grip IMPORTANT for the latest revision of the VPC Grips with twist axis! Before attaching your grip, ensure that the locking screws are flush with the screw collar. 1. Visually inspect both the grip plug and b...

VPS_ChokiOP•10/19/24, 1:06 PM

I have the old version i cannot lock it

constantine•10/20/24, 8:00 AM

Hey guys, finally got my rhino mounted and configured and the base stuff is incredible. Having some issues getting telemFFB to even recognize that im playing DCS and give me the option to play with affects there at all, would anyone know how to resolve this? got a screenshot of the live log for reference

Cconstantine Hey guys, finally got my rhino mounted and configured and the base stuff is incr...

LeLv30_Superbus•10/20/24, 10:17 AM

So no telemetry from DCS. My first thought is there is something wrong with export.lua.

Have you checked for clues in the DCS log file? It can look like this for example: Lua::Config (Main): Call error LuaExportStartLua::Config (Main): Call error LuaExportStart and so on
If you are using other programs which depend on Lua export, you can try moving TelemFFB line up/down in case the other program has installed itself incorrectly
A relatively easy thing you can try is this: Rename your saved games/DCS folder to something like DCS.saveme. Then start DCS and let it create a new file structure. Then load TelemFFB and let it install the export script and modify the export lua. Restart DCS and load into an aircraft and see if the telemetry starts flowing or if you get the same error in the log. All your bindings will be gone since they are stored in DCS folder you renamed, but this is just a test and you can delete the new DCS folder and rename your old one back

LLeLv30_Superbus So no telemetry from DCS. My first thought is there is something wrong with expo...

constantine•10/20/24, 10:40 AM

didnt think of moving the telemFFB line in the export.lua to the top, that seems to have fixed it. appreciate the suggestion!

Wwalmis You can get an replacement, something like https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-Charge...

Red•10/21/24, 2:16 AM

Replacement arrived and unit is working again. Thank you for the link. Wanted to provide an update that this has been resolved.

HHiob @Dimitris @Subsonic (Protomaker) That can only work, when the Belt is put on wit...

Shamansky•10/21/24, 12:18 PM

where is that marking? can you make a video how to perform proper centering and calibration?

SShamansky where is that marking? can you make a video how to perform proper centering and ...

Hiob•10/21/24, 12:24 PM

All three motors I got from Walmis had a marking on the face of the motor axis that showed the middle (~2048) position. Assumingly he put in on when calibrating the motors and putting on the firmware. But of course I don't know for sure if he does that every time.

Hiob•10/21/24, 12:27 PM

But it isn't that important anyway. I can't make a video because I don't want to take apart my rhino (again) but it is really pretty simple. Leave the belt off, manually set the calibration values to 0-4096 for each axis apply and save. Then turn all effects except spring off. The motor will turn to the correct position on its own and due to the spring it will hold it with some force. THEN put on the belt (of course hold the stick upright for that). That will give you a center position in the proximity of 2048 (doesn't matter when it is 1999 or 2078). Then do a proper calibration. Et Voila.....

Hiob•10/21/24, 12:29 PM

The axis might jitter a bit without the belt due to the lack of damping mass, if it is too much reduce the spring gain.

Shamansky•10/21/24, 1:04 PM

^this is great process explanaton, thanks man! appreciate

tanr•10/22/24, 5:55 PM

Any basic docs/videos on changing out the 3D printed Thrustmaster adapter that comes with the pre-assembled Rhino joystick for the metal version? It looks like it should be straight forward, but I couldn't find any docs and always like to verify before I start taking stuff apart!

Ttanr Any basic docs/videos on changing out the 3D printed Thrustmaster adapter that c...

*NOB*Aries•10/22/24, 6:09 PM

https://youtu.be/Gau9bPVesfY
my video from few days ago...

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Rhino Broken Thread Head Replacement & Throw Limiter Installation

Performed by my 11 years old wingman, under my supervision...

Music used in video:

Pat and Mat Soundtrack (A JE TO! 1979-1985)

*NOB*Aries•10/22/24, 6:12 PM

Here is my MSFS pitch oscillation and settings... please help if you notice anything wrong in my settings...

*NOB*Aries•10/22/24, 6:13 PM

https://youtu.be/UJH-9hsov7Q?si=nAM9qerlZieFlby8

YouTubegodfreynet

MSFS Turboprop Pitch Oscillation

*NOB*Aries•10/22/24, 6:13 PM

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*NOB*Aries•10/22/24, 6:17 PM

**NOB*Aries Here is my MSFS pitch oscillation and settings... please help if you notice anyt...

TheAmazinGreat•10/22/24, 6:32 PM

I am pretty sure since you don’t have damper, inertia, or friction checked in the effects tab, that the sliders on the settings tab do nothing. My understanding is that you take effects% * settings% to get total allowable %.

Try ticking damper box first, store settings, and see if that helps. High values for inertia and friction can cause instability (motor shutdowns) so best to feed those in slowly.

*NOB*Aries•10/22/24, 6:44 PM

I think TelemFFB overrides the configurator settings by using recognized or generated profiles, right?

TheAmazinGreat•10/22/24, 6:55 PM

Only if you set them to do so. It doesn’t look like you have, so TelemFFB uses the device settings.

TheAmazinGreat•10/22/24, 6:56 PM

Unless you’ve changed your “startup” vpconfig or set a custom aircraft specific vpconfig in TelemFFB

TheAmazinGreat•10/22/24, 6:57 PM

Section 4.12 of the manual: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1091401951951982602/1091401951951982602

CoolHand•10/22/24, 9:12 PM

Hey guys I'm having some issues with the config for the F4. The stick's neutral postion requires a ton of nose down to maintain level flight in cruise. The trim seems to do nothing. Any ideas?

CCoolHand Hey guys I'm having some issues with the config for the F4. The stick's neutral ...

Hiob•10/22/24, 9:17 PM

What do you mean? The trimmed stick position in level flight is forward from center - that is correct. The faster the more it needs to be trimmed forward (down).

CoolHand•10/22/24, 9:17 PM

No the trim does nothing

CoolHand•10/22/24, 9:17 PM

doesn't move the stick at all

can someone tell me what the Z is i cannot seem to find what it is but its always doing input making

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