Cloudflare Developers•15mo ago

guys - are beta models still free? (i remember they used to be) I couldn't find that in documentatio

guys - are beta models still free? (i remember they used to be)
I couldn't find that in documentation anymore

0xPh4s3•10/21/24, 11:19 AM

Hey guys, I would like to ask whether the LLM in cf worker AI is full precision or quantized, such as LLaMA3.1:70b

fry69•10/21/24, 11:25 AM

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Flare•10/21/24, 11:25 AM

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Sshoo guys - are beta models still free? (i remember they used to be) I couldn't find ...

Erisa•10/21/24, 11:41 AM

yes

0xPh4s3•10/21/24, 11:44 AM

sry

0xPh4s3•10/21/24, 11:45 AM

:MeowHeartCloudflare:

crazyjack12•10/21/24, 8:26 PM

Any updates on the use any model beta

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😈 Donkey 💫•10/22/24, 11:39 AM

i believe @cf/meta/llama-3.1-8b-instruct-fast in problem, in several days, it usually returns empty answer

Phanindra Reddy•10/22/24, 4:14 PM

hey guys i am to use llama 3.2 but it is getting an error in workers, how can i use it

Ben-xD•10/22/24, 8:11 PM

is there a way to check the context length of models hosted on cf?

ExploringBildr•10/23/24, 9:58 AM

Hello, I'm trying to set up Worker AI. I got this {"response":"Content-Type invalid"}
Any thoughts?

EExploringBildr Hello, I'm trying to set up Worker AI. I got this {"response":"Content-Type inva...

fry69•10/23/24, 10:11 AM

Check if your AI request works with

curl

curl

and when it does implement it inside the worker. Example request that works for me ->

curl -X POST \
  https://api.cloudflare.com/client/v4/accounts/${CLOUDFLARE_ACCOUNT_ID}/ai/run/@cf/meta/llama-3-8b-instruct \
  -H "Authorization: Bearer ${CLOUDFLARE_API_TOKEN}" \
  -d '{
  "messages": [
    {
      "role": "system",
      "content": "You are a friendly assistant that helps write stories"
    },
    {
      "role": "user",
      "content": "Write a short story about a llama that goes on a journey to find an orange cloud "
    }
  ]
}' \
  | jq

curl -X POST \
  https://api.cloudflare.com/client/v4/accounts/${CLOUDFLARE_ACCOUNT_ID}/ai/run/@cf/meta/llama-3-8b-instruct \
  -H "Authorization: Bearer ${CLOUDFLARE_API_TOKEN}" \
  -d '{
  "messages": [
    {
      "role": "system",
      "content": "You are a friendly assistant that helps write stories"
    },
    {
      "role": "user",
      "content": "Write a short story about a llama that goes on a journey to find an orange cloud "
    }
  ]
}' \
  | jq

ExploringBildr•10/23/24, 10:30 AM

OK. I got it working

ExploringBildr•10/23/24, 10:30 AM

Where do I add stream: true, max_tokens: 2048,

EExploringBildr Where do I add stream: true, max_tokens: 2048,

fry69•10/23/24, 10:35 AM

On the same level as

messages

messages

, in doubt ask any chatbot website to format this correctly for you.

InventorAI•10/23/24, 2:05 PM

Hi I am using https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers-ai/models/llama-2-7b-chat-int8/

can anyone please suggest me how can I calculate Input and Output token for price calculation

Cloudflare Docs

llama-2-7b-chat-int8 | Cloudflare Workers AI docs

Quantized (int8) generative text model with 7 billion parameters from Meta

IInventorAI Hi I am using https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers-ai/models/llama-2-7b-cha...

fry69•10/23/24, 2:07 PM

See here -> https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers-ai/platform/pricing/#pricing-structure

Cloudflare Docs

Pricing | Cloudflare Workers AI docs

Workers AI is included in both the Free and Paid Workers plans and is priced based on model task, model size, and units.

Ffry69 See here -> https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers-ai/platform/pricing/#prici...

InventorAI•10/23/24, 2:10 PM

Please suggest me programeticaly how can calculate the price when any API call perform

IInventorAI Please suggest me programeticaly how can calculate the price when any API call p...

fry69•10/23/24, 2:13 PM

That would require tokenization which is different for every LLM. If you only need one model it might work, but if you plan to switch between models and even providers, you might need to reach out for something like -> https://www.helicone.ai/

Ffry69 That would require tokenization which is different for every LLM. If you only ne...

InventorAI•10/24/24, 7:18 AM

Hi right now I am working on https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers-ai/models/llama-2-7b-chat-int8/
This is from cloudflare, so I want to calculation of token for this CF model

Cloudflare Docs

llama-2-7b-chat-int8 | Cloudflare Workers AI docs

Quantized (int8) generative text model with 7 billion parameters from Meta

IInventorAI Hi right now I am working on https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers-ai/models...

fry69•10/24/24, 7:25 AM

Well, google for a LLama 2 tokenizer then, e.g. -> https://github.com/belladoreai/llama-tokenizer-js (or use the official Python Sentencepiece tokenizer like this -> https://github.com/meta-llama/llama/blob/main/llama/tokenizer.py)

GitHub

GitHub - belladoreai/llama-tokenizer-js: JS tokenizer for LLaMA 1 a...

JS tokenizer for LLaMA 1 and 2. Contribute to belladoreai/llama-tokenizer-js development by creating an account on GitHub.

Ffry69 Well, google for a LLama 2 tokenizer then, e.g. -> https://github.com/belladorea...

InventorAI•10/24/24, 7:30 AM

Is Cloudflare not providing anything related to this?

IInventorAI Is Cloudflare not providing anything related to this?

fry69•10/24/24, 7:39 AM

Nope. Cloudflare AI does not even return the token amount in the response or anywhere else as far as I can see.

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😈 Donkey 💫•10/24/24, 11:12 AM

flux is weird, usually happens

kcbrewron•10/24/24, 2:41 PM

Good morning, periodically when I run batches of updates to content using vectorize,I receive an error AiError: 3001: Unknown interal error. How can I get more insights on what's going on?

Could this be too many requests on the AI requests?
For embedding

fry69•10/24/24, 2:42 PM

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Flare•10/24/24, 2:42 PM

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ExploringBildr•10/25/24, 11:09 AM

Hello, the response I'm getting isn't in an accurate json format. Anyone knows how to fix it?

EExploringBildr Hello, the response I'm getting isn't in an accurate json format. Anyone knows h...

fry69•10/25/24, 11:12 AM

What you get from the API is guaranteed to be valid JSON, but if you ask a LLM to reply with JSON (inside the

response

response

property), it may not work. LLMs are trained to generate text not JSON.

fry69•10/25/24, 11:14 AM

(some very recent advanced LLMs have learned a few JSON tricks, but their responses suffer in quality if you use those)

Ffry69 What you get from the API is guaranteed to be valid JSON, but if you ask a LLM t...

ExploringBildr•10/25/24, 11:15 AM

Thanks. Then, I need help to make my API call return a json. Now, it's returning a string?

EExploringBildr Thanks. Then, I need help to make my API call return a json. Now, it's returning...

fry69•10/25/24, 11:16 AM

A string is valid JSON, you have to parse it.

ExploringBildr•10/25/24, 11:16 AM

I tried to parse, but because of all the " and , it's not working for me.

ExploringBildr•10/25/24, 11:18 AM

I need to have a way to make the API call return a json without the unneccesary escape characters

EExploringBildr I need to have a way to make the API call return a json without the unneccesary ...

fry69•10/25/24, 11:18 AM

I do not see those escape chars when I use the API, see e.g. -> workers-ai

fry69•10/25/24, 11:19 AM

jq

jq

is happy so should any JSON parser

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ExploringBildr•10/25/24, 5:22 PM

Workers AI REST API

Original message was deleted

ExploringBildr•10/25/24, 5:32 PM

curl -X POST \
https://api.cloudflare.com/client/v4/accounts/[....]/run/@cf/mistral/mistral-7b-instruct-v0.1 \
-H "Authorization: Bearer [....]" \
-d '{"messages":[{"role":"system","content":"You are a friendly assistant that helps write stories"},{"role":"user","content":"Write a short story about a llama that goes on a journey to find an orange cloud "}]}'

ExploringBildr•10/26/24, 4:29 AM

It's solved now

blindChicken•10/26/24, 8:26 PM

I'm trying to use Cloudflare worker-AI with langchain to embed some text. Specifically I'm trying to use the

OpenAIEmbeddings

OpenAIEmbeddings

library to send text to my AI-worker. What I noticed is that the

embed_documents

embed_documents

method doesn't send the text to the endpoint provided but rather sends an array of tokens. On the other hand the CF embedding models/methods expects strings as inputs. Anyone know how to resolve this? Is there specific Langchain library for Cloudflare, or is there a way to input tokens into the CF models?

celeste_y•10/28/24, 2:44 AM

In my application, I need to create embeddings for articles and queries in both Chinese and English. However, the embedding models supported by Worker-AI are English-only models. I am thinking about calling out to an external inference API which supports multi-lingual embedding, then insert into/ query the embedding with Cloudfare Vectorize. Before doing that, I want to check and see if there is a more cloudfare native way to support multi-lingual embedding as I would like to keep my whole workflow on Cloudfare if possible. Thank you!

surgery18•10/28/24, 1:28 PM

Any chance of getting suno/bark and other AI TTS models added to available models we can use in workers AI?

pcnoic•10/28/24, 4:41 PM

Hey folks, we're having a weird issue that may or may not be a direct result of the way we're trying to leverage the AI binding in our worker.

We're using the application context to inject the various instances of Cloudflare bindings (we've done this for KV, R2 and multiple other services and now trying for AI).

import { useContext } from '@fc/core/context';

/**
 * Injects the Ai instance into the application context.
 */
export const withAI = (ai: Ai) => {
  const context = useContext();
  if (!context) {
    throw new Error('Context not found: ensure the AI binding is attached.');
  }
  context.dependencies.set('ai', ai);
};

/**
 * Retrieves the Ai instance from the context.
 * Throws an error if Ai is not found.
 */
export const useAI = (): Ai => {
  const context = useContext();
  if (!context) {
    throw new Error('Context not found: useAI must be called within a Cloudflare Worker.');
  }
  const ai = context.dependencies.get('ai') as Ai;
  if (!ai) {
    throw new Error('AI instance not found in context. Ensure `withAI` is used.');
  }
  return ai;
};

import { useContext } from '@fc/core/context';

/**
 * Injects the Ai instance into the application context.
 */
export const withAI = (ai: Ai) => {
  const context = useContext();
  if (!context) {
    throw new Error('Context not found: ensure the AI binding is attached.');
  }
  context.dependencies.set('ai', ai);
};

/**
 * Retrieves the Ai instance from the context.
 * Throws an error if Ai is not found.
 */
export const useAI = (): Ai => {
  const context = useContext();
  if (!context) {
    throw new Error('Context not found: useAI must be called within a Cloudflare Worker.');
  }
  const ai = context.dependencies.get('ai') as Ai;
  if (!ai) {
    throw new Error('AI instance not found in context. Ensure `withAI` is used.');
  }
  return ai;
};

We setup a

withAI

withAI

and

useAI

useAI

method that allows us to inject the binding instance into our workers from a core package.

We would then do something along the lines of:

 await withContext(requestId, async () => {
    const env = envSchema.parse(_env);

    // AI
    withAI(_env.AI);

 await withContext(requestId, async () => {
    const env = envSchema.parse(_env);

    // AI
    withAI(_env.AI);

Where the

Env

Env

interface was generated by

wrangler types

wrangler types

.

Our

_env.AI

_env.AI

in this case is of

 abstract class Ai

 abstract class Ai

as defined in the workers-type pacakge.

But, when we try to do something similar to in a service:

const cloudflareJobOutput = (await ai.run('@cf/openai/whisper', modelInput)) as WhisperResponse;

const cloudflareJobOutput = (await ai.run('@cf/openai/whisper', modelInput)) as WhisperResponse;

we catch an error which is hard to debug

 undefined: undefined

 undefined: undefined

Ppcnoic Hey folks, we're having a weird issue that may or may not be a direct result of ...

pcnoic•10/28/24, 4:42 PM

Any ideas or help would be appreciated.

javm95•10/29/24, 8:21 AM

Does Cloudflare support any models with response_format parameter? I need a model that can respond with a JSON schema.

Ppcnoic Hey folks, we're having a weird issue that may or may not be a direct result of ...

Vero•10/29/24, 12:05 PM

Hey. Do you have a minimal repro?

Martijn•10/30/24, 12:40 PM

Hello guys,

I'm trying to use image classification/object classification however
AiError: 3006: Request is too large
I can't find any documentation on the file sizes and how to increase this. Any help?

MMartijn Hello guys, I'm trying to use image classification/object classification howeve...

fry69•10/30/24, 1:18 PM

No documentation I can find and only this community entry -> https://community.cloudflare.com/t/inferenceupstreamerror-for-large-audio-files-2-mb/624759/6?u=fry69 pointing at a ~2MB limit (at least for whisper), which is tiny. I wonder if there is another way to reference objects to include for AI inference.

Otherwise, I'd deal with this limit and try to transform images to a smaller fixed size before sending them (I think APIs like e.g. Gemini do this internally to a 256x256 size anyway)

curl -X POST \ https://api.cloudflare.com/client/v4/accounts/${CLOUDFLARE_ACCOUNT_ID}/ai/run/@cf/meta/llama-3-8b-instruct \ -H "Authorization: Bearer ${CLOUDFLARE_API_TOKEN}" \ -d '{ "messages": [ { "role": "system", "content": "You are a friendly assistant that helps write stories" }, { "role": "user", "content": "Write a short story about a llama that goes on a journey to find an orange cloud " } ] }' \ | jq

import { useContext } from '@fc/core/context'; /** * Injects the Ai instance into the application context. */ export const withAI = (ai: Ai) => { const context = useContext(); if (!context) { throw new Error('Context not found: ensure the AI binding is attached.'); } context.dependencies.set('ai', ai); }; /** * Retrieves the Ai instance from the context. * Throws an error if Ai is not found. */ export const useAI = (): Ai => { const context = useContext(); if (!context) { throw new Error('Context not found: useAI must be called within a Cloudflare Worker.'); } const ai = context.dependencies.get('ai') as Ai; if (!ai) { throw new Error('AI instance not found in context. Ensure `withAI` is used.'); } return ai; };

guys - are beta models still free? (i remember they used to be) I couldn't find that in documentatio

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