Just assembled ffb pedals and having motor voltage faults when moving the pedals. It turns the motor

Just assembled ffb pedals and having motor voltage faults when moving the pedals. It turns the motor off then on. Does anyone have this experience and any trouble shooting ideas? I am sure it's something I did, but at a loss figuring it out.

Col. SandersOP•10/24/24, 6:43 AM

Think I have it all fixed. Appears to be a faulty power supply. Salvaged an old one I had and after some testing seems to work fine now.

CCol. Sanders Just assembled ffb pedals and having motor voltage faults when moving the pedals...

kaltokri•10/24/24, 7:56 AM

Use another psu. I had the same effect with a notebook psu. Now I'm using a Meanwell without any problems.

EEnvyC Sorry I phrased that poorly, I mean the Phantom doesn't recognise the Rhino inpu...

Hiob•10/24/24, 8:09 AM

You need to plug in two USB-connectors in the Rhino-Crosswinds. One for the toe-brakes and one for the actual FFB-board. But you can only bind the axis with the FFB-device. You MUST clear the rudder-axis of the original Crosswinds.

EnvyC•10/24/24, 8:09 AM

its clear

EnvyC•10/24/24, 8:14 AM

I've got the Virpil pedals, but its the same concept, I haven't put a cable directly into the pedals yet

PiNKSH!T•10/24/24, 12:18 PM

@walmis Hey m8, sorry for the ping. I got my new style cable today is there anything I need to know about swapping this out? I'm guessing I open up the side panel to gain access to the inside?

PPiNKSH!T @walmis Hey m8, sorry for the ping. I got my new style cable today is there anyt...

walmis•10/24/24, 12:21 PM

Hi, not the side panel - the rear panel (where the fan is). You will probably need to to cut the old cable and pass through the new one

Wwalmis Hi, not the side panel - the rear panel (where the fan is). You will probably ne...

PiNKSH!T•10/24/24, 12:22 PM

I have a new cnc bit to go on so would I be able to just unplug the old cable & remove it all? Or do you mean even replacing that I'd have to cut the cable? Rear panel yes that's right

walmis•10/24/24, 12:24 PM

Yes, to remove the old cable you will have to cut it (or unsolder it). The new one with the small connector will fit through the gimbal.

Wwalmis Yes, to remove the old cable you will have to cut it (or unsolder it). The new o...

PiNKSH!T•10/24/24, 12:26 PM

ahh I understand thanks for the help as always.

Anthony•10/24/24, 7:46 PM

Open question: is there any potential for either the Rhino software or the TelemFFB to cause a CTD for the other person in a multi crew module?

AAnthony Open question: is there any potential for either the Rhino software or the Telem...

walmis•10/24/24, 7:48 PM

You mean on the other end of a network cable? No chance

Anthony•10/24/24, 7:48 PM

I’ve played CP/G in the Kiowa in DCS a couple of times now, and with different people in the pilot seat. Every single time, the game has crashed on the pilot’s end.

Other people in the group have played the Kiowa without experiencing this, and AFAIK no one else has a Rhino.

It’s a long shot and likely caused by the Kiowa just being unstable, but just gotta ask

Wwalmis You mean on the other end of a network cable? No chance

Anthony•10/24/24, 7:50 PM

Aight, it did seem far fetched, but had to ask just to rule it out

AAnthony Aight, it did seem far fetched, but had to ask just to rule it out

tanr•10/24/24, 8:40 PM

I assume you’ve mapped pilot’s commands, as well as co-pilot’s? It’s not supposed to let those commands go through if someone is in the other seat, but maybe it is and that’s breaking something? Only flown SP in the Kiowa so far but it’s fun!

Old Prospector•10/24/24, 9:03 PM

Just finished installing my Rhino, running cables, etc. I noticed that it runs pretty well in DCS just with FFB checked. What do people tend to run for default/basic settings in Rhino configurator?

bobbyt•10/25/24, 12:58 AM

how do i roll back the firmware, it broke my rhino

amadeus•10/25/24, 1:08 AM

what broke? (not sure how to roll back, tbh)

bobbyt•10/25/24, 1:11 AM

i think the issue was i chose to update the firmware before updating ffb configurator, seems fixed now

bobbyt•10/25/24, 1:11 AM

thanks!

amadeus•10/25/24, 1:12 AM

word, glad you got it sorted -- but yeah -- i assume once you've flashed the firmware, you will require the new configurator software or else it probably won't know how to talk to the rhino

omohat•10/25/24, 5:34 AM

Just tried the new beta firmware and the fan control is a godsend for my ears

Question though - any advice on fan settings to use or avoid? Can we raise the fan start temperature to 40 or 45 or not recommended? Is 25% starting fan ok or again not recommended.

Just some general parameters that the motor should be operating under would be helpful to understand whats ok and not ok with the fan control (I'm pretty sure I didn't see this in the change log - apologies if its there).

And thanks again for implementing this! I personally feel its a really nice QoL upgrade as the fan was very loud before and now its much much quieter (even if it runs for longer now).

Oomohat Just tried the new beta firmware and the fan control is a godsend for my ears 😂...

Hiob•10/25/24, 7:39 AM

The earlier and the more you cool the better. If you NEED all the cooling depends a lot on what you do. When you just fly helicopters you won't need much cooling. When you do a lot of high-G dogfighting (in an F-16 e.g.) You want all the cooling all the time if you ask me.

Hiob•10/25/24, 7:42 AM

The problem is, that the temperature that is actually measured is the one of the motor-driver. The motor themselves serve as giant heatsinks. Which is nice for short temp-spikes of the drivers because they cool down again very quickly. Once the motors themselves are heated up though..... A continuous light cooling would be best in my opinion, so that they don't heat up that much in the first place.

HHiob The problem is, that the temperature that is actually measured is the one of the...

omohat•10/25/24, 7:46 AM

Thanks. I'll start the fans from an early temp then (maybe 35) but at a lower speed so that there's at least constant airflow

Oomohat Thanks. I'll start the fans from an early temp then (maybe 35) but at a lower sp...

Hiob•10/25/24, 7:48 AM

I think that's reasonable. My plan as well. Just have them running constantly but almost inaudible and have them ramp up at their usual treshold (50 C I think).

Hiob•10/25/24, 7:49 AM

Just help to cool down the thermal mass a little all the time.

R7-Cedar•10/25/24, 9:17 AM

Something went off, I've got joystick and pedal going on but only one of the board can be connected after the firmware update. Any way to fix this? I checked the PID is unique to each joystick(2055) and pedal(2052).

R7-Cedar•10/25/24, 9:19 AM

I should have said ''one at a time'. The second one gets detected as USB as beep goes, but it gets ignored on configurator, then USB gets disconnected on second board after a while.

walmis•10/25/24, 9:53 AM

Do you use a USB hub?
What does USBDevView show? https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html

NirSoft

View any installed/connected USB device on your system

USBDeview is a software that lists all USB devices that connected to your computer, and allows you disable, enable or uninstall them.

R7-Cedar•10/25/24, 10:44 AM

Thank you for looking into this, I have a Sabrent powered USB hub. I'm trying the USBDview now, I see [Rhino FFB Pedal] (Green) while the Rhino FFB Joystick is disconnected and Pedal connected. When I connected the joystick, beep sounds but no [Rhino FFB Joystick] shows up. I noticed that [Port#0004.Hub#0013] is going red when I connected the joystick, and goes gray when disconnected. I disconnected the pedal and connected the joystick, the line [Port#0004.Hub#0013] changes to Rhino FFB Joystick.

walmis•10/25/24, 10:46 AM

Try connecting one board to hub and another directly to PC or some other combination

R7-Cedar•10/25/24, 10:46 AM

Got it, trying now...

R7-Cedar•10/25/24, 10:49 AM

Now I see both the Rhino FFB Joystick and Rhino FFB Pedal. I'm launching the configurator now.

R7-Cedar•10/25/24, 10:53 AM

The quick device selector dialog is now asking which device to work on, select Joystick...worked, close the configurator and start again, select the Pedal...worked. TelemFFB launched as normal. I think I'm good now. Thank you for helping me on this, I really appreciate!

walmis•10/25/24, 10:54 AM

What kind of hub is it? USB 2.0 high speed/full-speed/3.0 ?

R7-Cedar•10/25/24, 10:57 AM

I believe the Sabrent hub is USB3.0 but I think I connected a USB2.0 hub in between to see if I can get around the USB Endpoint issue. So far I haven't seen 'Not enough resources' message after I did it. I have too many USB devices, the way how resources are being managed are quite complicated.

walmis•10/25/24, 11:00 AM

Yeah, the new firmware added a couple of extra auxilliary endpoints, maybe that exhausted the hub resources.

R7-Cedar•10/25/24, 11:07 AM

My brain can understand just little part of the endpoint calculation but yes, that explains! Thank you again for saving my weekend, and introducing me the USBDeview, I was been using Microsoft USB Device Viewer but the USBDeview gives far better idea of what's going on.

qwatch2000•10/25/24, 12:13 PM

I’ve been reading through the old posts about the F4 pitch up issue and checking things list axis conflicts (I have none) and other settings. The only solution I’ve found that works is to disable FFB in DCS but then you don’t get stick trim that stays in place. Was a solution ever found that allowed both to work? I’m using TelemFFB and VPforce with a Winwing adapter and extension

Migdriver•10/25/24, 12:54 PM

Is the joystick supposed to show up as a mounted drive in the windows toolbar (like I could click eject on it as if it was a memory card)

MMigdriver Is the joystick supposed to show up as a mounted drive in the windows toolbar (l...

walmis•10/25/24, 1:56 PM

Yeah, that's a bug in Windows

Qqwatch2000 I’ve been reading through the old posts about the F4 pitch up issue and checking...

Number481•10/25/24, 2:29 PM

I don't understand. The issue that was being discussed the other day was related to having FFB enabled in DCS but not using a FFB joystick.

The F4 works just fine, trim and all, when using the Rhino.

NNumber481 I don't understand. The issue that was being discussed the other day was relate...

Hiob•10/25/24, 3:34 PM

Yeah, here as well. No problems with the Phantom. Everything works as expected for me. (Rhino Stick and ffb pedals)

Old Prospector•10/25/24, 4:47 PM

Working great so far

Old Prospector•10/25/24, 4:47 PM

Mig-29 feels a little FBW, which it isn't. But I haven't used configurator or telemffb at all yet

hectik•10/25/24, 9:26 PM

Did anyone have any buttons on their grip stop working after updating to 'v1.0.17b1'? I have a VPC MongoosT-50 CM2 grip connected to my Rhino. The forward and aft inputs of the 2-way+push on the right side have stopped working after the Rhino update yesterday. When connected to my Virpil CM2 base it works normally (confirmed by VPC Configuration Tool and Windows Game Controller), but when connected to the Rhino base, the fore and aft presses aren't detected. Downward press still works. I have VPC T-50 CM2 selected in the Grip Type drop down just as I did before updating. I noticed that the fore and aft presses are detected when I select Generic Grip or most of the other VPC choices, but using those can cause other conflicts. If it helps, the non detected inputs are normally listed in Windows Game Controller as 18 and 19, and 28 and 29 in VPC Configuration Tool.

Old Prospector•10/26/24, 12:04 AM

Nope, just mapped those today actually

hectik•10/26/24, 1:07 AM

Hmm. Guess I'll play around with the settings, then. It's just weird that it's only with it on the Rhino, only with the CM2 grip type selected, and only after yesterdays update.

PiNKSH!T•10/26/24, 3:38 AM

@walmis hey m8, sorry again for ping. Is there a trick to removing the 3d printed grip attachment part? It seems to be on there really tight & I'm worried about damage to the gimbal??

Just assembled ffb pedals and having motor voltage faults when moving the pedals. It turns the motor

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