It's not entirely true, while the current is limited, the STABILITY fault usually occurs due to inst

It's not entirely true, while the current is limited, the STABILITY fault usually occurs due to instability in the damper control loop, due to self oscillation/resonances

Wwalmis It's not entirely true, while the current is limited, the STABILITY fault usuall...

Hiob•11/5/24, 2:11 PM

I think we are talking about two different problems/faults here.

Hiob•11/5/24, 2:11 PM

Sorry for the confusion.

Hiob•11/5/24, 2:12 PM

Perhaps it is best to settly one problem after another.....

Hiob•11/5/24, 2:15 PM

Regardless - I wouldn't recommend to bluntly put the spring gain to 100. Even if it doesn't tilt the motor, Reaching a force-plateau before the endstop just feels weird.

TTheAmazinGreat Those look like the rhino defaults so it should be pretty stable. Do you have it...

Sudeebare•11/5/24, 3:20 PM

Plugged into MB through a USB isolator. Today so far I did a half hour DCS session of touch & goes in I-16 at Tonopah without incident. No dogfights

I will try the suggestions given above and report back. Thanks to all for the quick replies!

SSudeebare Plugged into MB through a USB isolator. Today so far I did a half hour DCS sessi...

TheAmazinGreat•11/5/24, 3:21 PM

9 times out of 10 seems like the issue is people using a USB hub, powered or not. Usually plugging directly to mobo solves issues with disconnects.

Wwalmis It's not entirely true, while the current is limited, the STABILITY fault usuall...

Reed•11/5/24, 4:17 PM

With the new update and the way you handling damper now, what are some good targets for those of us with really extensions who want to change the spring gain so it stronger in the middle? Keep the stick from oscillating I guess. Does changing the hz effect performance or is there is a risk vs benefits so to speak.

TTheAmazinGreat I also played with the vel and acc estimator gains. Increasing them slowly helpe...

Varibraun•11/5/24, 7:27 PM

If you have a chance, would you mind posting your current settings that solved it for you? I am relatively new to all of this and probably shouldn't have updated my firmware yet, so I panicked a bit when I had the oscillation and did a factor reset to start over, but gimped my settings as a result. Thank you!

VVaribraun If you have a chance, would you mind posting your current settings that solved i...

TheAmazinGreat•11/5/24, 8:17 PM

If you get in that situation in the future, you can import the default settings for the Rhino. There is a “default” profile when you click the import tab. If you accidentally saved over this, you can redownload the configurator.

For you I would suggest importing Rhino defaults, do your auto calibration and export as a new configuration (include calibration data with export). That will give you a good starting point to reset to in the future that has your calibration accurate for your device.

VVaribraun If you have a chance, would you mind posting your current settings that solved i...

TheAmazinGreat•11/5/24, 8:25 PM

I’m not exactly sure if my settings would work for you since we have different set ups, that’s why the advanced tuning settings exist. I see them also as “adjust at your own risk” so be careful. If you hover your mouse over the text box or the “i” symbol it should give you some tips, pay attention to these.

You could start with: 🧰support

What worked for me was to slowly increase the vel and acc estimator gains until the oscillation went away, I ended up at vel:80, acc:40.

TTheAmazinGreat I’m not exactly sure if my settings would work for you since we have different s...

Varibraun•11/5/24, 8:34 PM

Thank you - I will give this a "careful" go so that I don't have to disable friction in effects.

BOO•11/5/24, 8:46 PM

Ive seen a few comments about USB hubs and Rhino issues. Is this a general "dont use" rule? I was hoping to use a hub connected to the chair due to my situation (wont have a permanent pit). Itll be a bit of a bugger if I cant do this.

BBOO Ive seen a few comments about USB hubs and Rhino issues. Is this a general "dont...

tanr•11/5/24, 8:57 PM

Just my personal experience, but I was able to make the Rhino work on 3 different powered USB 3.0 hubs. HOWEVER, on 2 of the 3 hubs (including an "industrial" one) if I came close to maxing out the ports (even though I wasn't maxing out the available endpoints as far as I could tell with USB Device Tree Viewer) I would get disconnects from TelemFFB and the device would stop being seen as a game controller even though USB Device Tree Viewer still saw it.

tanr•11/5/24, 8:58 PM

I still have the Rhino on a powered hub (Startech Industrial 10 port USB 3.0 w/ 65 watt PS) but I am only using 8 of the 10 ports. Adding any additional device causes issues. Note that I've got a Stream Deck XL on that same hub and it's a resource hog, so could be part of the issue.

BOO•11/5/24, 8:59 PM

@tanr Thanks for the reply mate. Appreciate it

BBOO Ive seen a few comments about USB hubs and Rhino issues. Is this a general "dont...

Hiob•11/5/24, 9:00 PM

I‘m running both, Rhino Stick and „Rhino“ Pedals from a USB 3.0 hub (unpowered). So far no issues.

BOO•11/5/24, 9:01 PM

@Hiob Thank you Mate - what make/model?

Hiob•11/5/24, 9:09 PM

wait….

Hiob•11/5/24, 9:10 PM

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07KFG8PPR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

RSHTECH USB Hub Aktiv 3.0 mit Netzteil, Aluminium USB 3.0 Hub mit 7...

RSHTECH USB Hub Aktiv 3.0 mit Netzteil, Aluminium USB 3.0 Hub mit 7 USB 3.0 Ports, USB 3.0 Port Verteiler für Datenübertragung mit 10W (5V/2A) Netzteil, RSH-518-2

Hiob•11/5/24, 9:11 PM

I‘m using it without the power plug though

kaltokri•11/5/24, 9:13 PM

I use this one, but was not brave enough to connect my Rhino Joystick and the RhinoMFG to it

:
https://www.amazon.de/RSHTECH-Datenkabel-Daten%C3%BCbertragung-Professionelle-RSH-A13-5/dp/B0B8GN6XK8
But I will try it in the next days/weeks.

USB Hub mit Netzteil, RSHTECH Aluminium USB Hub Aktiv 3.0 mit Netzt...

USB Hub mit Netzteil, RSHTECH Aluminium USB Hub Aktiv 3.0 mit Netzteil 72W(12V/6A), 13-Port USB Hub Aktiv mit 100cm Datenkabel, zum Laden und Datenübertragung, Professionelle Business Grade, RSH-A13-5

Hiob•11/5/24, 9:14 PM

Seem to be the same apart from the port count

kaltokri•11/5/24, 9:18 PM

I had a rule of thumb since some years with DCS and USB hubs: "Connect everything that has an axis directly to the motherboard usb ports or a good pcie USB card." I had really strange behaviors by using some USB hubs. But I want to slim down my cable management. So I will try it again.

BOO•11/5/24, 9:23 PM

Ive used my Crosswinds, Warthog Throttle and Virpi Stick without any issues in DCS for many years using a powered 7 port TP-link hub. Worst I get on boot up is a funky stick but unplgging the usb sorts it instantly. Im hoping this continues with the Rhino though I will likely upgrade the hub (hence the asks) for those non VR moments when I have to drag out the TIR and headphones.

Hiob•11/5/24, 9:23 PM

Sometimes I think, it is not the Hubs that are problematic but other devices on the same line.

Hiob•11/5/24, 9:24 PM

Then again there are cockpit builders, that daisy chain a dozend usb hubs without issue (seemingly)….. I don’t know. Astrology

BOO•11/5/24, 9:29 PM

Thank you for the quick answers. My Rhino is imminent though I wont be able to use for a few more months. My next mission is seeing if Monsterstck can accomodate a wider cutaway in their MFC-1. Dont ask dont get.

CCaptainNel So could I build my own stick on my own hc165s and it would work?

TheAmazinGreat•11/5/24, 10:03 PM

You need to add an inverter on the CS for HC165 (inverter goes between pin1 of HC165 and VPF main board) the VPF shift register boards I bought had the HC165 with the inverter.

The alternate option is to build with CD4021B shift registers.

CaptainNel•11/5/24, 10:19 PM

Yeah I’ll likely rebuild mines with the VPforce board, just to simplify things

CaptainNel•11/5/24, 10:19 PM

It’s been ordered at any rate so

CaptainNel•11/5/24, 10:20 PM

In terms of connectors, can I wire up a ps2 type connector straight to the board? R or do I have to make up a jst type plug for the run

TTheAmazinGreat 9 times out of 10 seems like the issue is people using a USB hub, powered or not...

Sudeebare•11/5/24, 10:40 PM

I made changes to my Setting & Effects as suggested and have not had motor go offline today. Thanks all

Trooper 311•11/6/24, 5:12 AM

My control inputs aren’t giving me the desired roll rate or pitch rate. Is there a way to adjust that?

TTrooper 311 My control inputs aren’t giving me the desired roll rate or pitch rate. Is there...

Hiob•11/6/24, 5:30 AM

Too much or too little per Stick movement? Which Aircraft?

DeltaVJ•11/6/24, 10:22 AM

Hello, is it normal that the stick is dead in the ov10? No spring, like if I was in the menu and only read position

DDeltaVJ Hello, is it normal that the stick is dead in the ov10? No spring, like if I was...

walmisOP•11/6/24, 10:38 AM

It probably doesn't have FFB implementation. You'd have to make a sticky spring or use telemFFB spring override

DeltaVJ•11/6/24, 10:49 AM

Wouldn't it be possible to add a file in the mod folder or change one just so that it has basic implementation from the game ?

DeltaVJ•11/6/24, 10:49 AM

like copying another plane ffb implementation?

walmisOP•11/6/24, 11:04 AM

Not sure how open-source the ov-10 is, but FFB stuff requires dealing with FM code in C++

walmisOP•11/6/24, 11:05 AM

Found some references in community A-4 mod: https://github.com/heclak/community-a4e-c/blob/a83948d86ea234b9143a97d2cbd2f8f3a099987c/A-4E-C/ExternalFM/FM/Scooter.cpp#L1038

GitHub

community-a4e-c/A-4E-C/ExternalFM/FM/Scooter.cpp at a83948d86ea234b...

The Community Repo for A-4E-C and its Official Submods - heclak/community-a4e-c

Ryoh•11/6/24, 2:15 PM

@walmis Is it still possible to add something to my order?

RRyoh @walmis Is it still possible to add something to my order?

walmisOP•11/6/24, 2:16 PM

Hi, DM me your order number

Trooper 311•11/6/24, 3:03 PM

@Hiob Too much or too little per Stick movement? Which Aircraft? F 18 Too little

DeltaVJ•11/6/24, 3:05 PM

Okay that's beyond my competence but thanks

TTrooper 311 @Hiob Too much or too little per Stick movement? Which Aircraft? F 18 Too littl...

Hiob•11/6/24, 3:37 PM

You could manually reduce the (raise the lower and reduce the higher values) values of your calibration and save that profile specifically for the Hornet. That would give you more reaction per movement. Also for FBW-Aircraft, you might try to make the spring sticky and

Hiob•11/6/24, 3:37 PM

rely on the effects by TelemFFB

HHiob You could manually reduce the (raise the lower and reduce the higher values) val...

Trooper 311•11/6/24, 5:50 PM

sorry, where do i find the calibration values

TTrooper 311 sorry, where do i find the calibration values

Hiob•11/6/24, 6:27 PM

In the VP config where you made the main settings and the calibration. In the lower part of the screen you see the min and max axis values. You can manually change them, for example bring every value 200-500 points closer to the middle. That way you need less real stick movement for more virtual stick.

HHiob In the VP config where you made the main settings and the calibration. In the lo...

Trooper 311•11/6/24, 6:28 PM

Great Thank you

TTrooper 311 Great Thank you

Hiob•11/6/24, 6:31 PM

Don’t forget to apply and save and I would suggest that you export your config before experimenting and then save a dedicated version for the Hornet.

It's not entirely true, while the current is limited, the STABILITY fault usually occurs due to inst

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