So yeah, found the issue, but you can fix it on your end, fix the belt position relative to the moto

So yeah, found the issue, but you can fix it on your end, fix the belt position relative to the motor so the calibration is within the 0 .. 4096 range

Wwalmis Which problems?

Cynemi•11/17/24, 3:18 PM

If you are interested in critical issues related to I think firmware, my rhino keeps "crashing". Shutdown chime plays in the middle of flying, and I have to cycle the emergency stop to get it up running again.
Started after I updated the firmware + configurator + telemffb (to WIP version) in order to solve another issue, where I cant run telemffb more than like once, before the .exe stops working and I have to unpack the whole telemffb from the zip again in order for it to run.
My original issue wasnt solved by this so now I have both of these issues

Cynemi•11/17/24, 3:26 PM

Also, any fix for this issue on the configurator?
I keep having to reinstall so much software constantly because it just stops running, doesnt start, after a while. Both the configurator and telemffb...

CCynemi Also, any fix for this issue on the configurator? I keep having to reinstall so ...

walmisOP•11/17/24, 3:42 PM

Try maybe excluding telemFFB/configurator paths from windows defender?

Cynemi•11/17/24, 3:43 PM

They are

Wwalmis So yeah, found the issue, but you can fix it on your end, fix the belt position ...

Balapan•11/17/24, 3:49 PM

How to do that? I tried to set raw_x and raw_y values close to 0 and then put belt on with joystick in center position. Still same jittering

walmisOP•11/17/24, 3:55 PM

The best way is to reset calibration manually to min 0, max 4096. Apply settings. Enable spring force so it recenters the motors then put on the belt while everything is centered.

walmisOP•11/17/24, 3:55 PM

The raw values will be around 2000 when properly centered

walmisOP•11/17/24, 3:55 PM

Then after auto calibration the values will stay between 0 and 4096

CCynemi Also, any fix for this issue on the configurator? I keep having to reinstall so ...

walmisOP•11/17/24, 3:56 PM

Well this is new. What issue does the telemFFB have?

Wwalmis The best way is to reset calibration manually to min 0, max 4096. Apply settings...

Balapan•11/17/24, 4:01 PM

Thank you. This worked.

Wwalmis Well this is new. What issue does the telemFFB have?

Cynemi•11/17/24, 4:30 PM

The telemffb just does not start. running the exe does nothing, I get the loading spin thing on my cursor for a few fractions of a second, then its just a no start.

walmisOP•11/17/24, 4:33 PM

Feels like some runtime libraries are messed up

f14billy•11/17/24, 5:14 PM

Hi @walmis I sent you a DM regarding one of the limiters in my last order that was sent with the wrong angles. It was supposed to be Y22 and X16 and I received the standard 11 on both axis.

CCynemi The telemffb just does not start. running the exe does nothing, I get the loadin...

I/JG7_Moto•11/17/24, 6:10 PM

Right click on it, then click properties and tick unlock

Bruh'gdan•11/18/24, 7:06 PM

Hi everyone,
How can I amplify the default TelemFFB plane effects ? So basically what it is for Bf109 in Il.-2 but a notch more

Thx !

BBruh'gdan Hi everyone, How can I amplify the default TelemFFB plane effects ? So basically...

Hiob•11/18/24, 7:25 PM

Increase the gain for periodic effects (guns, shudder) and constant force (g-force, de-accel) in the VP config…..and of course master gain if it isn’t on 100
Assuming you already maxed out the settings in TelemFFB

Hiob•11/18/24, 7:27 PM

Make sure you haven’t accidentally limit any force by means of the potentiometer.

HHiob Make sure you haven’t accidentally limit any force by means of the potentiometer...

Bruh'gdan•11/18/24, 9:52 PM

i have pot #1 to 50% as spring, and the actual Spring force is 100%...so basically 50% spring if i am not mistaken....btw. I have the smaller diamater wheels.

BBruh'gdan i have pot #1 to 50% as spring, and the actual Spring force is 100%...so basical...

Hiob•11/18/24, 9:53 PM

correct. But spring doesn’t affect the aforementioned effects.

Bruh'gdan•11/18/24, 9:54 PM

affirmative

HHiob Make sure you haven’t accidentally limit any force by means of the potentiometer...

Bruh'gdan•11/18/24, 9:57 PM

or the smaller cog is slipping ?...as i did 3d print them myself

BBruh'gdan or the smaller cog is slipping ?...as i did 3d print them myself 😬

Hiob•11/18/24, 9:58 PM

You mean the motor side pulley?

Hiob•11/18/24, 9:58 PM

Bold to make those out of 3D prints. I wouldn’t bet on their longevity.

HHiob You mean the motor side pulley?

Bruh'gdan•11/18/24, 9:58 PM

jup

HHiob Bold to make those out of 3D prints. I wouldn’t bet on their longevity. 😅

Bruh'gdan•11/18/24, 9:59 PM

me neither

Hiob•11/18/24, 9:59 PM

Well at least they are cheap and quick to replace….

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:00 PM

How many teeth?

HHiob Well at least they are cheap and quick to replace….

Bruh'gdan•11/18/24, 10:00 PM

thats true....i have the alu ones, but the shaft hole is too small

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:00 PM

They come in different bore sizes. 8mm is what you need

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:01 PM

Maybe you can drill it up? (be careful, wear glasses and clamp them down properly)

HHiob Maybe you can drill it up? (be careful, wear glasses and clamp them down properl...

Bruh'gdan•11/18/24, 10:02 PM

already thougth bout it...and will try it out. definitely need a good clamp

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:02 PM

Best to use a standing push down drill. Freehand will be hard to aline.

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:03 PM

(or bite the apple and by new ones)

Hiob•11/18/24, 10:04 PM

*buy

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 3:49 PM

I'm using throw limiter that is not assymetric. I have 20 degree pitch foward but only 15 deg backward. My stick center is now foward 3-4 degree. How do I correct this?

TTeufelHunden I'm using throw limiter that is not assymetric. I have 20 degree pitch foward bu...

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:00 PM

I have the same issue, just posted in suggestions to add a recenter option. What I do for now is mess with the Y min/max axes calibration values.

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:04 PM

So your saying for now I need to change the Y values in order to get a true center.

TTeufelHunden I'm using throw limiter that is not assymetric. I have 20 degree pitch foward bu...

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:04 PM

Or wait, maybe you have the opposite problem. You calibrated using the throw limiter, and you want your logical center to be different from the physical "middle" position?

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:07 PM

I'm using phycial throw limiters which are not assymetric only for the Y axis. I recalibrated and now the software thinks that the center for me is forward about 4 deg or so. So my stick recenter to the center of the circle on the software but that center is not good for me it is foward 4 deg. I need the circle for center in the software to be back more.

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:09 PM

is that the same problem you have. This problem cannot be resolved by the balance or static force settings because those settings will not move the center backwards 4 degrees or so it will only move my stick and that's not what I need so I came here for help.

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:09 PM

You can probably get there by first changing the Y axis calibration values (to give you more logical throw), then use the software axis scaling to set an asymetric scale for Y. Probably quite a bit of trial and error

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:12 PM

Its similar but different from what I have. I use software endstops and want to use only the "bottom half" of the physical range, but I do want that to be symmetric (I printed an extension that angles the stick forward a bit). By using software endstop scaling, center position remains in the physical middle, so if I have like 1 degree throw for negative Y and 20 degree for positive, which doesnt really fly well

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:14 PM

But it is what you want I think, just a little less extreme

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:17 PM

Maybe there is no problem for me. I know that it seems my stick is forward at its new center but maybe that's because of the fact my throw is more forward than back and true center for my setup is now foward a little which make sense.

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:19 PM

Yeah if you calibrated using the actual physical range (with limiter) stick center will be in the middle of the range.

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:20 PM

glad I didn't order my new extension with any rake lol now my stick is naturally canted a little forward but thats ok I need to test it out in the sky I'm sure it will be fine

Vertigo (VIV)•11/19/24, 4:24 PM

FWIW, if you want your stick to be upright in the middle, even if that means you have a little less throw in one direction than the other, you can do that (the way I explained) and I find that to feel more natural than I thought. Also, if you just want to offset the weight of the stick, you can do that with the static force setting

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:26 PM

so change the min max for the Y?

TeufelHunden•11/19/24, 4:26 PM

change both an even amount?

TTeufelHunden change both an even amount?

TheAmazinGreat•11/19/24, 4:37 PM

With stick in its current position note Raw Y value. Move stick to desired center point and note raw Y value there.

If desired-current is positive: under Y axis calibration increase the higher number until C:#### is equal to your desired center raw Y value.

If desired-current is negative:
Decrease the lower number until C:#### is equal to your desired center raw y value.

Then you need to go into axis scaling in effects tab and play with percents so at the physical end stop you get full deflection from the virtual axis.

So yeah, found the issue, but you can fix it on your end, fix the belt position relative to the moto

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