Is there a good tutorial video on how to properly set the different trim functionality the Rhino has

Is there a good tutorial video on how to properly set the different trim functionality the Rhino has to offer?
I see video showcasing the trim but nothing on how to properly set it up, thanks!

B34ker•11/28/24, 6:42 PM

Anyone know how to properly setup the Trim Following and/or AP following in MSFS 2024?

I tried the trim following feature in the 172, configuring it as described in the manual, until the trim causes no change in the pitch (at cruise speed, with no spring and high damper)… then when I turn on the AP, it can’t hold level flight, and just pitches up and down continuously… is there something I missed in configuration steps? Right now, I can only get it to fly normally with AP by turning both Trim and AP following off.

CCalVRsimer Is there a good tutorial video on how to properly set the different trim functio...

Hiob•11/28/24, 7:28 PM

Just the same as you would in the sim. Press the function you want to assign and then press the button you want it assigned too. There is force trim release, reset and directional trim. With the first button, you press and hold to move the stick around and it will stay where you release the button again, with the second button you reset that trimmed position to the physical neutral point again. the other four are classical trim buttons which will increment offset the stick in the according direction. Usually though, those functions will be provided by the sim and you don’t need to apply the option in the config. But it can be necessary or preferable occasionally. I mostly (exclusively actually) use them for cyclic trim in helicopters.

BB34ker Anyone know how to properly setup the Trim Following and/or AP following in MSFS...

Dracks•11/28/24, 7:33 PM

Have you set bindings in MSFS? Have you set the "hardware trim" option in VP configurator? TELEMFFB configured? If so, then you should be able to trim your plane/helicopter.
I haven't tried all models, but most are ok with these options (msfs). For DCS, you have native FFB (for certain machine models).

Dracks•11/28/24, 7:36 PM

Ah little edit: the pitch trim seems not as good (bug?) as lateral (yaw) trim. I noticed this on the H145/160 but it wasn't obvious. Maybe server bugs (???)

Dracks•11/28/24, 7:40 PM

Oh, and check for double bindings. Some devices have preconfigured bindings (honeycomb) and you might be bothered by that.

Dracks•11/28/24, 7:43 PM

And check Hiob's above post

BB34ker Anyone know how to properly setup the Trim Following and/or AP following in MSFS...

Number481•11/29/24, 2:31 AM

what number did you end up at? Cruising at 110kt the default Physical=%100, Virtual=%20 seems pretty close already. You have to add a bunch of trim to get the nose to move significantly while holding the stick in a static position.

The AP seems to be behaving fine as well.

Do make sure you don't have axis bindings configured in the sim (or other external tool like SPAD). TelemFFB needs to be the sole source of the axis position to MSFS for things to work right.

NNumber481 what number did you end up at? Cruising at 110kt the default Physical=%100, Vir...

B34ker•11/29/24, 2:38 AM

Yeah I found I had to go down a bit, I was using Virtual=8%. Yes I have nothing bound for the Rhino in the sim. Looks good in terms of trim and AP following, but I was just get constant oscillations, like it was instantly over correcting.

This was last night though, and I eventually gave up and turned it off, but I can check and test again in a few hours.

Unrelated, but I find that the controls themselves are really quite twitchy in the sim, and and I haven’t figured out if there’s a way to set curves to alleviate this.

BB34ker Yeah I found I had to go down a bit, I was using Virtual=8%. Yes I have nothing...

Number481•11/29/24, 3:27 AM

There's no curves, but you can adjust the axis scaling. %80, for example, would mean that full excursion of the physical axis would only result in %80 throw in the sim

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Spitfire ZX•11/29/24, 2:38 PM

wow that's a lot of Rhinos

Swoop•11/29/24, 4:53 PM

Has anyone got a good profile for the f16? Trying to simulate the pressure sensing but not sure the best way to do it.

PapaMiraculi•11/30/24, 8:47 AM

Is there an issue with VPforceBot?
VPforceBot doesn't show any updates on my reservation anymore when using the info email command. Last update was over two weeks ago, and it said approx. 24 days.

m2times_•11/30/24, 10:44 AM

its just how it is

m2times_•11/30/24, 10:44 AM

its one man doing everything manually

m2times_•11/30/24, 10:44 AM

not a big company that has stuff automated

Horizon•11/30/24, 12:12 PM

Algorithm got changed to be an estimated number rather then an actual number, it’s in your favour though

Alighierian•11/30/24, 12:36 PM

I guess this version is (primarily) looking at the S/N, rather than specific # of rhinos pending.
I.e.: It changes whenever he updates the list for dropouts/no-shows/etc.

Before I had to have mine pushed back/paused, the tracking was as follows on my end:
28.10: 125 rhinos, S/N #0954
31.10 (after swap to algorithm): ~37 to go (~23 days), #0954
04.11, 06.11, and 11.11 had the same '~37 to go', #0954
18.11: ~8 to go (~5 days), #0856

PapaMiraculi•11/30/24, 1:20 PM

Ok thanks. I'm just dying to get mine (as you can imagine I guess).

Wwalmis Testing a GIM8108-8 1:8 gear motor with VPforce controller: Pros: Lots of torq...

Red Magic•11/30/24, 1:37 PM

I don't mind noise. I think most people play with headphones anyways. Is this something planned for later, or one of those little curiosity things

Bob Bushman•11/30/24, 2:44 PM

Think my chair creaks more than that...

BOO•12/1/24, 7:49 AM

Asking again but is there anyway the Rhino can use oldsytle DX FFB. Aware Number481 said there was an absence of telemetry in CloD but there was FFB. Seems a shame a £5 charity shop Sidewinder works but an £800 state of the art unit doesnt. The FF Beast manual alludes to that unit being able to use DX FFB.

BBOO Asking again but is there anyway the Rhino can use oldsytle DX FFB. Aware Number...

walmis•12/1/24, 12:21 PM

DX FFB works on the Rhino, but CloD probably has some quirky/broken implementation that needs workarounds like the War Thunder did

Wwalmis DX FFB works on the Rhino, but CloD probably has some quirky/broken implementati...

BOO•12/1/24, 12:48 PM

THanks for the reply Walmis. I realise there are about 6 people left in the world interested in the title but is there any hope for the Rhino? I also dont undertand whyt the Sidewinder works but things like the Rhino and Beast dont.

CaptainNel•12/1/24, 6:25 PM

The Learning curve from dead stick to rhino is

Andre•12/1/24, 11:37 PM

the amount of settings in the configurator is kind of overwhelming to be honest and I don't have a 100% understanding of what everything means. Is there a place that explains every little detail in the configurator?

Andre•12/1/24, 11:38 PM

Also along those lines is there anybody that has or can share their personal setups for different operations, such as helicopters, warbirds, jets, etc.?

DoctaGriff•12/2/24, 12:18 AM

What do you guys do to keep the stick from slamming around when you crash? Sometimes it faults the encoder and I have to restart the FFB.

DDoctaGriff What do you guys do to keep the stick from slamming around when you crash? Somet...

f14billy•12/2/24, 12:44 AM

If you add some damper it may help with that.

AAndre Also along those lines is there anybody that has or can share their personal set...

f14billy•12/2/24, 12:45 AM

📙knowledge-baseRhino Profile Sharing

f14billy•12/2/24, 12:45 AM

That may help you

Andre•12/2/24, 1:51 AM

Thanks!

Andre•12/2/24, 1:51 AM

might be a stupid question, but how do I open up this page on the configurator?

AAndre might be a stupid question, but how do I open up this page on the configurator?

TheAmazinGreat•12/2/24, 2:19 AM

That is TelemFFB. It is a separate program that helps manage aircraft and sim specific effects based on telemetry outputs from the sim.

AAndre the amount of settings in the configurator is kind of overwhelming to be honest ...

TheAmazinGreat•12/2/24, 2:27 AM

Check the knowledge base section for the manual. This is also a quick way to get started: 📃general

The basics are: effects tab and settings tabs are multipliers of each other so 50% spring in effects and 50% spring on settings will be 25% final setting.

Start with 100% in effects tab and 0% in settings and tune up on settings tab to desired effect. Best to do spring last as mentioned in the linked post above.

Friction and inertia at high settings can cause instability so don’t put more in than you need.

There are two tabs because the sim can (but doesn’t always) override the effect %. I think most, if not all, sims will only override spring. So your other effects, if not overridden by the sim, will remain as is.

Andre•12/2/24, 4:25 AM

ah gotcha. Thanks!

Trinity•12/2/24, 6:55 AM

Anyone here mount the Rhino to the Monstertech flight chair? Got mine put together today and am running into constant issues with the Rhino mount

DDoctaGriff What do you guys do to keep the stick from slamming around when you crash? Somet...

Touch_Of_Legend•12/2/24, 9:47 AM

Before you crash hit the Oh shit button!

Err I mean E stop

Touch_Of_Legend•12/2/24, 9:52 AM

Touch_Of_Legend•12/2/24, 9:52 AM

So first you pull this and then you smash the E stop

DDoctaGriff What do you guys do to keep the stick from slamming around when you crash? Somet...

Hiob•12/2/24, 12:28 PM

Reduce the effect intensity/gain for the deceleration! Or the constant force gain in VP config.

Hiob•12/2/24, 12:33 PM

@Number481 I don't now the values from the top of my head, but maybe the default gain for decel. should be a bit lower....... You know, protect poeple from themselves.

(....or protect the Rhino from the sim...

)

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TTrinity Anyone here mount the Rhino to the Monstertech flight chair? Got mine put togeth...

Dracks•12/2/24, 5:11 PM

Yeah in the past a
I had this (now I have a MTS frame but globally similar). How can I help ?

Mayo•12/3/24, 4:46 AM

Hello guys
How long would shipping go, when I order 4?

amadeus•12/3/24, 4:47 AM

shipping is generally in about 2-3 weeks tops depending on where you are in the world, the bigger issue is the waitlist which if you sign up now, will take a bit

Is there a good tutorial video on how to properly set the different trim functionality the Rhino has

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