Is this after takeoff/airborne? That‘s correct then. The F-4 (like many other jets) needs loads of f

Is this after takeoff/airborne? That‘s correct then. The F-4 (like many other jets) needs loads of forward trim for level cruise flight. Other than with a peasant spring loaded joystick, with a FFB stick you actually have the stick moving correctly with trim.

frumpy•12/7/24, 10:36 AM

Hi, I have been offline for a longer time and I don't find my own messages on discord. Is there any sim/plane/update that has autopilot following with the Rhino moving accordingly? I did not find a single plane yet that has that ability.

frumpy•12/7/24, 10:43 AM

Also, question #2: Does any of you use the metal grip mount update? What are your experiences with it? I use the plaste one, had some cracking with strong forces and put some tape on the metal bar. This silenced the cracking for months. Now it seems to return. Will the metal mount solve this issues forever? Foreverever?

Ffrumpy Also, question #2: Does any of you use the metal grip mount update? What are you...

Alkman•12/7/24, 10:46 AM

I had the same issue and went to the Alu Connector from Vpforce. No problems with cracking anymore. For me a wobbling stick was also an issue, maybe because of a not good calibrated printer but with the alu connector also this problem was solved and everything is tight. Changing grips without fear for the threads is a big plus also

HHiob Is this after takeoff/airborne? That‘s correct then. The F-4 (like many other je...

Showtime817•12/7/24, 6:19 PM

Yes, I've been starting in the air trying things out.

SShowtime817 Yes, I've been starting in the air trying things out.

HiobOP•12/7/24, 8:00 PM

Yes, then better get used to it…

(there are only „poor“ workarounds if you are extremely uncomfortable with it. Like messing with your calibration or axis scaling. I would advice against all this and simply accept that this is actually correct behaviour. Maybe bring the base closer to your chair (if possible) when you can’t get used to it.

Red Magic•12/7/24, 8:40 PM

is there a way to get rid of this

Red Magic•12/7/24, 8:40 PM

not just to close it now but to also disable the popup in general

Red Magic•12/7/24, 8:40 PM

I tried force quitting Edge in task manager and its still there

WingOver•12/8/24, 12:02 AM

Looking for guide on how to tight the belts?

WWingOver Looking for guide on how to tight the belts?

WingOver•12/8/24, 12:34 AM

https://vpforcecontrols.com/downloads/VPforce_Rhino_Manual.pdf
6.1. Re-tightening the belts

kronk•12/8/24, 1:21 AM

I'm getting weird button detection from my vkb mcgu all of a sudden, when I press a button it just flashes instead of staying constant. Its fine in loopback but in the configurator its weird. This reflects in trim releases as well because I can feel it jumping around

kronk•12/8/24, 1:24 AM

nvm an update solved it

Daz_bike•12/8/24, 12:02 PM

I am using end stops in the configurator, but I get pretty bad bounce back and oscillations when I hit the end stops.

Daz_bike•12/8/24, 12:03 PM

Any settings to stop this or reduce this from happening?

H145Rotor-Sims•12/8/24, 1:49 PM

Hi everyone, is there any where in the software we can see how much force we are pulling? Aka when I pull up on the collective I would to know how many NM I pulling to move it.

omohat•12/8/24, 2:08 PM

I'm having some trouble with the physical to logical button mappings. I started using my Rhino with a Virpil stick so mapped everything in DCS with a 1:1 physical:logical.

A couple of weeks ago, i changed to a Tianhang stick, and rather than remap everything in DCS, I changed the physical:logical mappings in the VPForce software so all my DCS mappings stayed the same. This worked fine until today.

Today I tried loading someone eleses vpconf file, and their stick setting was for Virpil Alpha (not generic). Although I changed the setting back to generic, and loaded my button map from a backup, for some reason, the logical buttons aren't being sent to DCS, only the physical ones

omohat•12/8/24, 2:09 PM

This is my button map

omohat•12/8/24, 2:10 PM

For example when I press te second trigger detent (physical button 2) instead of logical button 1 being sent to DCS, physical button 2 is being sent instead

omohat•12/8/24, 2:11 PM

Likewise physical button 1 should map to logical button 5 but instead when i press physical button 1 thats what DCS receives (ot logical 1). I've tried resetting the map and configuring it again but without any luck.

omohat•12/8/24, 2:11 PM

Is there some setting that is preventing the logical buttons from being sent to DCS?

omohat•12/8/24, 2:20 PM

Never mind - firmware update resolved the issue. Guess I should try that before posting here in the future

RReed The weird bumping, i am feeling in the left x axis, feels like skipping maybe, ...

Zrad•12/8/24, 8:25 PM

Did you ever find the fix for this? Can’t really find any answers skimming through the channel, but I notice this exact same thing

ZZrad Did you ever find the fix for this? Can’t really find any answers skimming throu...

Reed•12/8/24, 8:27 PM

I haven’t had time to take apart the pit. I’m off next week and will take out the rhino and tightened everything up and see if it helps.

RReed I haven’t had time to take apart the pit. I’m off next week and will take out th...

Zrad•12/8/24, 8:29 PM

I have it partially disassembled right now without going too deep, so if the stuff I tightened down fixes it I’ll let you know, otherwise we may have to go deeper haha.

RReed I haven’t had time to take apart the pit. I’m off next week and will take out th...

Zrad•12/8/24, 9:29 PM

🧰support

this was my issue, turned out to be the easiest fix ever for me. Was truly as you described it though, so hopefully same issue for you too.

NNumber481 my only suggestion would be to unfasten the boot ring and lift up the boot to e...

*NOB*Aries•12/8/24, 10:06 PM

This little biatches got loose... front and rear one almost fell out totally... and that caused the sharp vibrations when passing through pitch axis center... THX!!!

ZZrad https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/968208779084701716/1309240205131...

Reed•12/8/24, 11:23 PM

Nice, Ill be able to check next week.

ZZrad https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/968208779084701716/1309240205131...

kaltokri•12/9/24, 7:29 AM

I had the same problem when I used it with the standard Virpil base.
So this issue is not related to any vibrations done by the Rhino.
Virpil should insert these screws with LocTide.

Critical Limit•12/9/24, 11:19 AM

VPforce Shift-Register Board for my DIY collective/pedals arrived.
Can't find a wiring on the vp force homepage. Anyone here can help?
Wiring to the rhino board found, but no wiring for switches

Kkaltokri I had the same problem when I used it with the standard Virpil base. So this iss...

Zrad•12/9/24, 12:33 PM

Might still be with the vibrations a bit, I’ve definitely torqued down those screws before when I had my CM3 base, but just had to again with the rhino. Definitely considering the loctite now

CCritical Limit VPforce Shift-Register Board for my DIY collective/pedals arrived. Can't find a ...

walmis•12/9/24, 1:13 PM

Wire each button to common GND and InputX pin on the shift register

Wwalmis Wire each button to common GND and InputX pin on the shift register

Critical Limit•12/9/24, 2:39 PM

So no resistors, thanx very much!

Sdorricott•12/9/24, 7:45 PM

Hi guys, is it possible to get the Ste file for the power supply jack plug housing and a new power supply, had a family accident and need to replace both items.

Sdorricott•12/9/24, 7:45 PM

^STL

Tomsk•12/9/24, 11:09 PM

Hello, I'm loving my VPForce Rhino that I recently received. I did have a question though. I see the configuration provides a way to change "Axis Scaling" in the "Effects" tab. Is there also a way to introduce an "Axis Offset" so that I can have a non-standard "center" to the joystick? Even better if I can control via TelemFFB. This would be very useful for helicopters where you really want the "center" position to be where the stick is about 50% the way back. Helicopters spend a lot of time with the stick a long way forward and almost never with it all the way back, and reaching forward can get tiring with a long extension. Even better would be being able to supply complete custom curves.

TTomsk Hello, I'm loving my VPForce Rhino that I recently received. I did have a questi...

HiobOP•12/10/24, 1:15 AM

Easiest way to mess with the center position is messing with the calibration values. I wouldn’t recommend though, but rather bring the base closer to the seat if possible. Also in most helicopters the cyclic position in cruise is slightly forward. Perhaps an inch or two. If you are „a long way forward“, you‘re going way to fast probably. But maybe that is a matter of different perception or definition.

TTomsk Hello, I'm loving my VPForce Rhino that I recently received. I did have a questi...

Bob Bushman•12/10/24, 1:41 AM

With helicopters and the rhino, center is simply where you trim it to be.
But without any of the axis tom-foolery that the return-to-center trimming dcs has for spring sticks.

Axis scaling etc is more for when you have more physically limiting situations. For example, if you pull back on the stick as far as you can, but you hit your chair and you only reach 80% output, you can scale down that part of the axis by 20-25% and get full range without also grinding down your nuts.

HHiob Easiest way to mess with the center position is messing with the calibration val...

Tomsk•12/10/24, 9:16 AM

You are quite right that the stick position should only be slightly forward in cruise .. however, (sadly) some helicopters in MSFS 2024 aren't modelled that way and require holding a lot of forward stick to go at normal cruise speed. My arm gets tired reaching so far on long cruises, hence wanting to change the center point. I can somewhat reduce the effect by putting a ridiculous curve in the MSFS axis configuration .. but only somewhat as MSFS doesn't have as much control here as DCS, sadly.

Changing the stick mounting would work for helicopters .. but it would be bad planes (I fly both) where you pull back a lot more. The stick would then be hitting the seat all the time. I guess I could move it back and add a front end-stop in software to just reduce the overall throw of the stick ...

rmax•12/10/24, 10:13 AM

Hi QQ question. I keep getting the Rhino cutting out...checking the log I get a FAULT_UNDERVOLTAGE, and then the stick resets. Any idea what the cause of the UNDERVOLTAGE is - I was having no issues prior to the latest firmware update. Do I need a more power USB hub?

Rrmax Hi QQ question. I keep getting the Rhino cutting out...checking the log I get a ...

walmis•12/10/24, 10:15 AM

Hi,
first make sure the DC plug is firmly in place

rmax•12/10/24, 10:15 AM

OK thanks I will check

Daz_bike•12/11/24, 4:39 AM

I have found the end stops oscillate as you bounce off them when you hit them .
I f they have a slight delay in milliseconds or ramp in the effect then that might improve the feel substantially.
Instant application of the end stop effect is the likely culprit.

Blaubär | Michael•12/11/24, 1:35 PM

BBlaubär | Michael 🤔

walmis•12/11/24, 2:17 PM

Make sure notifications are not disabled globally in browser or per-site

walmis•12/11/24, 2:18 PM

There's usually a checkbox for notifications in site settings

Mel427•12/13/24, 1:25 PM

hello i have some hard time recognizing the rhino base after dcs is started. yesterday evening it worked, didnt know how i do that because its first time installing. seems that he cant find the file but it is there in the dcs folder. Dont know why he is searching in dcs open beta because it should be the official dcs directory?

Mel427•12/13/24, 4:49 PM

i was reinstalling the next level platform manager because i had it installed before. now its working again. i dont think thats as it should be?

Fr4Ged•12/14/24, 12:43 AM

PSA:
if you are starting to go mad because of the Rhino not throwing any effects and refusing to take trim input move the TelemFFB line in the Export.lua file to the first line. It suddenly starts working again then. lol

FFr4Ged PSA: if you are starting to go mad because of the Rhino not throwing any effects...

kaltokri•12/14/24, 9:06 AM

Depends on the other tools in your export lua. If one of the tools is not cleanly programmed and does return on the right way, it will kill tools later in the file.
Sometimes you have to play arond with the order of the entries. If you have a working version make a backup or take a note about the order. So if a tool cleans the export lua (I had this case before) you don't need to start from scratch.

Jasnisse•12/14/24, 11:51 AM

I just updated my firmware after a noification telling me its needed. Now it claims i need to update the configurator, not seeing any ways of directly updating it so i assume i need to replace the entire folder with the fresh install but what file holds all my settings? I want to be able to copy those over to save me some headache

Is this after takeoff/airborne? That‘s correct then. The F-4 (like many other jets) needs loads of f

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