I'm trying to get the hang of air refueling in the F18/F14/F4 in DCS. Anybody got any Rhino or DCS

I'm trying to get the hang of air refueling in the F18/F14/F4 in DCS. Anybody got any Rhino or DCS settings that particularly help with smooth controls around center? I've got a Rhino, VKB MCG and 200mm extension

robbiec•1/2/25, 10:43 AM

Hi all, on the list for a Rhino. I am looking at grips and leaning towards a Virpil Warbrd (nice and simple), will I also need to purchase the Virpil controller too?

Bob Bushman•1/2/25, 10:47 AM

Virpil and thrustmaster grips runs directly, no adapter or anything like that needed.

BBob Bushman Virpil and thrustmaster grips runs directly, no adapter or anything like that ne...

robbiec•1/2/25, 11:03 AM

Thanks very much, appreciate the reply.

HHotdognz Hi all, new to the VPForce Rhino, im about to get one my mate does not use any m...

TheZoq2•1/2/25, 11:35 AM

Also I have started reading the Discord sections and there seems to be a lot of tweaking and setup (maybe reading wrong here) I'm wanting to fly the Apache and KA50 II in DCS is it easy to get this working with the software and DCS or do I have to start reading all the sections on setting it up.

IIRC it works really well out of the box but DCS is lacking some effects which telemffb adds, and that takes a little bit of tweaking

Bob Bushman•1/2/25, 12:22 PM

I havent really tweaked much, just a basic calibration and range of motion check.
Simply put, scaling down axis range so I get full range output without having to remove body parts.

Pretty much only use dcs though so using the FFB settings there, telemffb just add some extras.

VPforceBot•1/2/25, 12:30 PM

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CCapnFlint I'm trying to get the hang of air refueling in the F18/F14/F4 in DCS. Anybody go...

OldmateHC•1/2/25, 1:35 PM

I've only tried in the Hornet. Small dead zone of one or two and add some curve. Fingertip pressure.

HHotdognz Hi all, new to the VPForce Rhino, im about to get one my mate does not use any m...

Red Magic•1/2/25, 1:45 PM

The 64 at least is very easy setup. With Telem program open and DCS too (sitting in the cockpit) you have sliders and options available to tweak what kind of feedback and how much you're getting. I recommend turning the ETL shake down, it's too violent by default.
For trimming the 64, use the DCS ingame trim button and not the VPForce one.

Red Magic•1/2/25, 1:46 PM

For all modules make sure you calibrate the VP in the configuration program. Something like hitting the calibration button on the bottom, going through the sticks full range of motion, then clicking the button again

Red Magic•1/2/25, 1:48 PM

Virpil and apparently thrustmaster grips run directly with the Rhino no issue. VKB iirc need an adapter

OOldmateHC I've only tried in the Hornet. Small dead zone of one or two and add some curve....

CapnFlintOP•1/2/25, 2:28 PM

Do you have this set in the VPForce software or in DCS?

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Munchie•1/2/25, 2:35 PM

Sent a DM!

HHotdognz Hi all, new to the VPForce Rhino, im about to get one my mate does not use any m...

Col. Sanders•1/2/25, 2:52 PM

Just plug in do the initial setup and fly. tweaking you read about is optional.

MMunchie Sent a DM!

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•1/2/25, 3:06 PM

answered

HHotdognz Hi all, new to the VPForce Rhino, im about to get one my mate does not use any m...

FuturPaladin [FR/2A]☨•1/2/25, 3:43 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/986474224241741884/986478661848948756

FuturPaladin [FR/2A]☨•1/2/25, 3:44 PM

Read the q&a

CapnFlintOP•1/2/25, 4:34 PM

Is the calibration a global calibration, or do I have to recalibrate for each different plane config I’m using?

ReapDaddy•1/2/25, 5:10 PM

The calibration is global

VPS_Choki•1/2/25, 6:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HJYkbHFWwk

someone already saw this and maybe tried to put it on a vprhino?

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CCapnFlint Do you have this set in the VPForce software or in DCS?

OldmateHC•1/2/25, 9:30 PM

DCS - I'm still on waitlist for rhino

m2times_•1/3/25, 9:43 AM

how many days before estimated shipping do I get the offer to actually pay for my rhino?

m2times_•1/3/25, 9:43 AM

im at less than 30 now and i'd like not to miss it (in case the email goes to spam or something)

Bob Bushman•1/3/25, 9:46 AM

It won't ship until you pay.
Wait to long, and it'll just go to next guy on the list who does.

Make sure you can receive pms for the bot, that was the first way i got notified.
Email came shortly after, that's more likely due to how slow email works.

Mm2times_how many days before estimated shipping do I get the offer to actually pay for m...

Flo-Soft•1/3/25, 9:54 AM

That was written in my notification mail to actually confirm the order when it was my turn: "Please note that if we do not receive your completed order form or a reply within 10 days,
this preorder will be considered void." After filling out the order form it took four days then I got a notification for payment. So you have about 10 days when receiving the first notification to place the order or get in contact with Walmis.

CCapnFlint I'm trying to get the hang of air refueling in the F18/F14/F4 in DCS. Anybody go...

LeLv30_Superbus•1/3/25, 3:37 PM

For aerial refuelling a precise throttle is perhaps more important than the stick. I couldn't do it with any confidence until I changed to a better throttle.

Alighierian•1/3/25, 4:12 PM

To a degree, yep.

Going from TM 16k to VKB Gladiator was a day and night difference as well.
However, that was mostly due to the center spring being a pita in the center, where you do most of the movements for AAR.

G. R. Cooper•1/3/25, 6:58 PM

is there a step by step guide to connecting/configuring a VKB F-14 (IV) grip with the Rhino? I've got it setup (I think) in Configurator and Loopback correctly (though there was no instruction on how to setup the Pot 1/2 Source in Loopback that I found - I assume those are set to the Rhino - are both to be turned on? Slider to the right?)

In the VKB Device Config, it's showing as a Space Gunfighter XT2 - there are no other options.

The joystick itself is working great in DCS, but the buttons on the grip aren't recognized (DCS sees it as a Space Gunfighter as well - don't know if that's an issue).

I have the WinWing F-18 grip, and it's working perfectly when connected, but I can't figure out the VKB.

GG. R. Cooper is there a step by step guide to connecting/configuring a VKB F-14 (IV) grip wit...

Sundowner•1/4/25, 12:45 AM

If it shows as "Space Gunfighter XT2", then you need to flash the blackbox using VKB bootloader with the firmware compatible with the F-14 grip.

Sundowner•1/4/25, 12:46 AM

Space Gunfighter is the "Kosmosima" one

Rocco Thamanoidis•1/4/25, 12:51 AM

Anybody using the "VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime"? I wonder how it is after using a Warthog for 10y now. I'd appreciate more buttons and axis, aswell as the movable handrest.

LLeLv30_Superbus For aerial refuelling a precise throttle is perhaps more important than the stic...

CapnFlintOP•1/4/25, 3:47 AM

Yeah this was a surprise tip for me from my friends too! Once I set a slight deadzone on my Rhino and adjusted my throttle detent and throttle friction I finally got it.

wolfman59#6013•1/4/25, 9:33 AM

hello everyone, I have a question, I just realized that I have my old ender3 3d printer and I plan to recover the meanwell which is on it to power my VPforce is what I can do to power my VPforce only rn waiting for me to finish my diy rudder MFG?

CCapnFlint Yeah this was a surprise tip for me from my friends too! Once I set a slight dea...

kaltokri•1/4/25, 10:48 AM

How big is your Deadzone? I'm struggeling myself with finding the right size to master AAR with the Rhino.

RRocco Thamanoidis Anybody using the "VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime"? I wonder how it is after usin...

Dracks•1/4/25, 11:20 AM

Very good quality, lots of buttons. Works perfectly with the Rhino

Dracks•1/4/25, 11:21 AM

I have mine since 2023 end no issue at all

Kkaltokri How big is your Deadzone? I'm struggeling myself with finding the right size to ...

CapnFlintOP•1/4/25, 1:54 PM

I did 2-3% with an extension

SSundowner If it shows as "Space Gunfighter XT2", then you need to flash the blackbox using...

G. R. Cooper•1/4/25, 3:50 PM

That was it, thanks!

DaedricLord•1/4/25, 7:04 PM

Should I contact vp@vpforce.eu if there is a problem with my order? I sent an email 4 days ago but no response so far

Hotdognz•1/4/25, 9:04 PM

Thans for all the info and help to my previous questions, I have now picked up the Rhino of my friend, he has told me it has a F18 limiter in place and that I may need to get a limiter 3D printed that suits the Apache.

Where would I find the info on getting a limiter plate printed, I have a friend who could print one for me, 2nd question would be is there a std limiter that can cover most planes in DCS from warbirds, jets and helicopters, if so what that would be.

Hammer 1-1•1/4/25, 11:43 PM

hey, quick question: Im getting within 30 days of my order being fulfilled and I dont remember what email I had on file for my reservation..would I get a message from the VPForce Bot when its ready?

HHammer 1-1 hey, quick question: Im getting within 30 days of my order being fulfilled and I...

Prometheus [Prom]•1/5/25, 12:16 AM

you should get a pm first here, might be worth checking with Walmis if you’ve change emails etc.

G. R. Cooper•1/5/25, 3:41 PM

Still having some VKB F-14 issues. It's mostly working. The weapons selector switch, however isn't. The toggle between Phoenix/Sparrow works, but none of the movement of the switch (up or down) registers.

Also, very weirdly, the trim hat works fine in the DCS controls setup, but doesn't operate the trim when I'm flying.

I've checked through my setup and I did order the correct Rhino VKB adapter (for MK IV grip), so I don't think that's it. I'm confused

All of the other buttons (and the DLC axis) are working fine - just the weapons selector and the trim hat.

Old Prospector•1/5/25, 10:58 PM

Any pc builders have advice WRT USB on motherboards? Building a new one for 5090 and considering how to support my sim rig better.

GG. R. Cooper Still having some VKB F-14 issues. It's *mostly* working. The weapons selector...

Sundowner•1/6/25, 12:47 AM

If you're using it for the DCS, do you need the loopback functionality ? I don't use it, so can't really help you there, but the weapons selector on the VKB grip is mechanically not a switch, but a magnetic encoder, if the loopback software gets raw data from the grip, then it won't work, as it needs to be reconverted by the VKB BlackBox.

GG. R. Cooper is there a step by step guide to connecting/configuring a VKB F-14 (IV) grip wit...

Col. Sanders•1/6/25, 2:20 AM

Don't bother using the loop back for DCS.