Shift registers need to be CD4021 type or SN74HC165 type with an inverter on the CS signal. But yes

Shift registers need to be CD4021 type or SN74HC165 type with an inverter on the CS signal. But yes you’ve got the gist of it. Only HC165 needs the inverter. CD4021 works as is. Pull up resistors on inputs for both types, buttons to GND.

TTheAmazinGreat Shift registers need to be CD4021 type or SN74HC165 type with an inverter on the...

LR.Jpatty•1/8/25, 4:05 PM

Thanks ok i actually have a couple of the 74hc165x3 pcbs.. do you have model number or name for the inverter needed?

TheAmazinGreatOP•1/8/25, 4:20 PM

Something like PN2222 or BC547 would work.

How-to-Invert-Signal-for-Arduino-HIGH-to-LOW-or-the-Reverse.png

TheAmazinGreatOP•1/8/25, 4:23 PM

Depending on how many buttons you need you could also do it with 1-2 arduino nanos, no shift registers.

LLR.Jpatty Thanks ok i actually have a couple of the 74hc165x3 pcbs.. do you have model ...

Touch_Of_Legend•1/8/25, 4:41 PM

Hey I know this guy

Welcome brother

RReapDaddy did everything recognize well in the VP Configurator? I guess Walmis will be re...

Dracks•1/8/25, 4:44 PM

Yes, everything's fine with my “Alpha profile”. BUT @walmis needs to create a “FLNKR” profile for the correct placement of buttons/switches/hats/brake lever. I haven't tried another type of grip yet (not enough time and too much work), but I imagine the generic profile will be more suitable (?).
In any case, it's easy to use as it is, but Walmis needs to update it. I'm not a dev, but I'd say it should be doable in no time!
I'm trying to post a video showing the button presses (sorry but no sound^^)

DDracks Yes, everything's fine with my “Alpha profile”. BUT @walmis needs to create a “F...

Touch_Of_Legend•1/8/25, 4:51 PM

I’m pretty sure he needs to get the stick in house to implement those changes into the software.

I could be wrong but I think that’s what they had to do with one of the previous sticks.

So yeah… You may need to wait for Walmis to actually get a Flanker grip in house

Touch_Of_Legend•1/8/25, 4:51 PM

He will comment below and say yes/no

TTouch_Of_Legend I’m pretty sure he needs to get the stick in house to implement those changes in...

Dracks•1/8/25, 5:19 PM

Yeah sure, I post a little vid which explain the "bugs" found

Dracks•1/8/25, 5:20 PM

But for a first try, it's rather good

Dracks•1/8/25, 5:40 PM

Here's some video (sorry I had to cut it down) AND Sorry for my bad english

Dracks•1/8/25, 5:41 PM

ReapDaddy•1/8/25, 6:02 PM

I thought that would be the case needing a new grip profile for the FLNKR grip with the different possible combinations with the extra hat switches. I’m sure his will arrive soon. Hopefully mine will also arrive this month.

Old Prospector•1/8/25, 6:22 PM

Waiting patiently across the Atlantic. My order is still processing.

TTouch_Of_Legend Hey I know this guy 👍🏽 Welcome brother 🦏

LR.Jpatty•1/8/25, 7:07 PM

Ha thanks Bro!

TTheAmazinGreat Depending on how many buttons you need you could also do it with 1-2 arduino nan...

LR.Jpatty•1/8/25, 7:10 PM

Ah ok, just have a separate wiring for the grip only (like vkb kind of)

LLR.Jpatty Ah ok, just have a separate wiring for the grip only (like vkb kind of)

TheAmazinGreatOP•1/8/25, 7:23 PM

Not necessarily, you use the arduino to spoof a shift register output. You can also use it to spoof the Winwing adapter profile if you want to have axis inputs on your DIY grip. 5 wires to the VPF main board, same as with a shift register.

TTheAmazinGreat Not necessarily, you use the arduino to spoof a shift register output. You can a...

LR.Jpatty•1/8/25, 7:27 PM

Ah, i see , well was thinking of like a F4 type of grip with maybe 20 buttons total no axis

LLR.Jpatty Ah, i see , well was thinking of like a F4 type of grip with maybe 20 buttons t...

TheAmazinGreatOP•1/8/25, 7:40 PM

You can get up to 19 buttons out of one nano with no axes using all the available inputs. For 20+ it would probably be easier to go the shift register route. Can’t go wrong either way and the shift register is a great option too. I recommend going with whichever you feel more confident with.

TTheAmazinGreat You can get up to 19 buttons out of one nano with no axes using all the availabl...

LR.Jpatty•1/8/25, 8:13 PM

Cool, i have a stm32 blue pill, and some of the pcb hc175, i think i have a box with 55 buttons. But ya for a stick would not need that much, my main thing is how it connects to the vp force mainboard

DDracks Click to see attachment

RUSHER•1/9/25, 8:41 AM

Mine is on it´s way as well. Looking forward to a profile as well so that II can use all button and axis.
Will it be possible at all to set up the analogue stick on the grip as a 4-way switch like you can do with the "axis to button" option in the Virpil software?

Alighierian•1/9/25, 11:56 AM

Whoop, just got my flnkr.

For those wondering (I was):
The hat swapping is indeed just that.
The 4+1 modules are installed by default, with the button/3-way hats simply limiting movement.

RUSHER•1/9/25, 1:15 PM

Mine arrived as well. I tried out the Alpha Prime profile but it doesn´t work. Some Buttons are not recognized and the Axis are swapped so they are not recognized properly. I´m gonna wait for a profile until I use it. I got a mousepad and a cup as a gift for the delay.

eqjarlvarg•1/9/25, 3:22 PM

Hello how long is the wait for a Rhino at this point ?

RRUSHER Mine is on it´s way as well. Looking forward to a profile as well so that II can...

Dracks•1/9/25, 3:40 PM

I don't know but we must see this after Walmis update (and create) the FLANKR profile

RRUSHER Mine arrived as well. I tried out the Alpha Prime profile but it doesn´t work. S...

Dracks•1/9/25, 3:41 PM

Same as you. But my Alpha profile is usable (except some buttons or combination of buttons). No issue with the axis

Dracks•1/9/25, 3:42 PM

I try it in DCS and MSFS and all good (except the issues mentioned just above)

ReapDaddy•1/9/25, 3:52 PM

I am positive that once Walmis gets his grip he will crank out the FLNKR profile ASAP. He is probably as excited as we are to use it.

DDracks Same as you. But my Alpha profile is usable (except some buttons or combination ...

RUSHER•1/9/25, 4:27 PM

I´m not in a hurry, my warthog tick is just fine right now. I rather wait ab bit. I have to figure out my new button layout anyway.

RRUSHER I´m not in a hurry, my warthog tick is just fine right now. I rather wait ab bit...

ReapDaddy•1/9/25, 6:56 PM

Yup. Was using my old TM Cougar grip until the weapon release button stopped working. Luckily I could switched to my Warthog grip until FLNKR time.

m2times_•1/9/25, 7:17 PM

m2times_•1/9/25, 7:17 PM

maaaaaan they moved it to march

RobertB•1/9/25, 8:47 PM

That yoke they did a kickstarter for was going to ship in June. I bet that gets moved back to the end of the year at this rate.

m2times_•1/9/25, 9:40 PM

damn it was for october 2024 originally

m2times_•1/9/25, 9:40 PM

november when i ordered (october)

Fr4Ged•1/9/25, 10:40 PM

Probably didn't help introducing so many products at once

Hotdognz•1/10/25, 4:22 AM

Hey guys im new to the Rhino and im having trouble with the DCS Apache and trimming, can some ne explain the setting's to use in DCS and any other settings I need to enable in either the FFB configurator of the TelemFFB, im very new to this sorry

Fr4Ged•1/10/25, 6:17 AM

You need to turn on force feedback in the settings in DCS and use the trimming of DCS. Not the hardware trim of the Rhino software.

Fr4Ged•1/10/25, 6:18 AM

Oh, and use the instant trim (ffb friendly) in the special settings of the Apache

Hotdognz•1/10/25, 7:53 AM

@Fr4GedThanks its all working at it should now.

kantapon4965•1/10/25, 3:52 PM

Can vpforce uses with mfs2024 or mfs2020?

Aerosmith•1/10/25, 4:00 PM

Hi, I'm new, here. I'm building a heli simulator and already own cyclic and collective from 737diysim.com and VKBsim pedals. The diysim controls have force trim with stepper motors but they suck (not enough force, get hot) and the pedals have no FB at all. I plan to upgrade them with the DIY kits. I've already found the software manual (https://vpforcecontrols.com/downloads/VPforce_Rhino_Manual.pdf). Is there any info avaliable for the hardware of the DIY kits?

Kkantapon4965 Can vpforce uses with mfs2024 or mfs2020?

Dracks•1/10/25, 5:27 PM

Yeah sure no issue

Dracks•1/10/25, 5:28 PM

Look at the manual (msfs page)

Dracks•1/10/25, 5:29 PM

You can use 2 apps: VP configurator (settings, calibration...) and TelemFFB (effects in the game)

VKNG•1/10/25, 5:50 PM

Heard today about a version of the rhino with 25lbs of force. How do I know if my rhino is one of these or an older one?

AAerosmith Hi, I'm new, here. I'm building a heli simulator and already own cyclic and coll...

smitty•1/10/25, 6:51 PM

:wave: the info on the motors can be found here https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/986474224241741884/986485131906809866
pretty much nothing from the bases of the 737diysim cyclic or collective would be reused, but you can adapt the stick & grip parts to whatever the new base design is. There might be vkb pedal info in #

knowledge-base

Ssmitty :wave: the info on the motors can be found here https://discord.com/channels/96...

Boggy•1/10/25, 9:31 PM

Wait, all Rhinos built by Walmis have the 1.6 Nm motor / NEMA23 motor?

Boggy•1/10/25, 9:34 PM

Oh damn, I thought that was the strongest motor possible (maybe it was at the time I bought mine). What does one have to do to upgrade to the strongest motor? The NEMA34 (4.2 Nm)

smitty•1/10/25, 9:35 PM

youd have to build it yourself

Ssmitty youd have to build it yourself

Boggy•1/10/25, 9:35 PM

There's no way to take out the current motors and put the stronger ones in?

Shift registers need to be CD4021 type or SN74HC165 type with an inverter on the CS signal. But yes

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