Hi, I'm new, here. I'm building a heli simulator and already own cyclic and collective from 737diysi

Hi, I'm new, here. I'm building a heli simulator and already own cyclic and collective from 737diysim.com and VKBsim pedals. The diysim controls have force trim with stepper motors but they suck (not enough force, get hot) and the pedals have no FB at all. I plan to upgrade them with the DIY kits. I've already found the software manual (https://vpforcecontrols.com/downloads/VPforce_Rhino_Manual.pdf). Is there any info avaliable for the hardware of the DIY kits?

Kkantapon4965 Can vpforce uses with mfs2024 or mfs2020?

Dracks•1/10/25, 5:27 PM

Yeah sure no issue

Dracks•1/10/25, 5:28 PM

Look at the manual (msfs page)

Dracks•1/10/25, 5:29 PM

You can use 2 apps: VP configurator (settings, calibration...) and TelemFFB (effects in the game)

VKNG•1/10/25, 5:50 PM

Heard today about a version of the rhino with 25lbs of force. How do I know if my rhino is one of these or an older one?

AAerosmith Hi, I'm new, here. I'm building a heli simulator and already own cyclic and coll...

smitty•1/10/25, 6:51 PM

:wave: the info on the motors can be found here https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/986474224241741884/986485131906809866
pretty much nothing from the bases of the 737diysim cyclic or collective would be reused, but you can adapt the stick & grip parts to whatever the new base design is. There might be vkb pedal info in #

knowledge-base

Ssmitty :wave: the info on the motors can be found here https://discord.com/channels/96...

Boggy•1/10/25, 9:31 PM

Wait, all Rhinos built by Walmis have the 1.6 Nm motor / NEMA23 motor?

Boggy•1/10/25, 9:34 PM

Oh damn, I thought that was the strongest motor possible (maybe it was at the time I bought mine). What does one have to do to upgrade to the strongest motor? The NEMA34 (4.2 Nm)

smitty•1/10/25, 9:35 PM

youd have to build it yourself

Ssmitty youd have to build it yourself

Boggy•1/10/25, 9:35 PM

There's no way to take out the current motors and put the stronger ones in?

smitty•1/10/25, 9:36 PM

wont fit at all

Boggy•1/10/25, 9:37 PM

Ah shame. I'm super happy with mine but more power seems better. Especially because I want to fit a real stick grip on mine which probably weighs a ton.

VVKNG Heard today about a version of the rhino with 25lbs of force. How do I know if m...

VKNG•1/10/25, 9:39 PM

Is this a thing or bad info?

smitty•1/10/25, 9:39 PM

my diy setup uses the 57blf03.. and its pretty uncomfortable at 100% spring to hold at the extremes, even with 250mm between gimbal center and grip

VVKNG Is this a thing or bad info?

Fierce_Fire•1/10/25, 9:59 PM

25 seems quite high. Im running 10lb on a 500mm extension, so 15 or 20 is certainly possible, but 25 is along the limit i guess

Fierce_Fire•1/10/25, 9:59 PM

also, lbf depends on your extension, if you didnt know

VVKNG Is this a thing or bad info?

Number481•1/10/25, 10:18 PM

There's only one original "Rhino" (produced by walmis) which uses the 57blf03 motors. There are DIY designs that use the larger 86 series motors.

Fr4Ged•1/10/25, 10:27 PM

25 NM sounds like it would break the regular flight sim gear or at least the 3d printed stuff

Fierce_Fire•1/10/25, 10:39 PM

nah, its more than fine

Fierce_Fire•1/10/25, 10:40 PM

but 25NM isnt the same as 25lbf at the stick

Hotdognz•1/11/25, 12:45 AM

Stick choice - hi all now I have my Rhino mounted I need to make a stick choice, currently I have borrowed a TM F18 and wont be keeping it as I dont like the limited hat options.

I have a Wingwing ViperAce (EX) with the shaker kit and really like it and have it mapped really well in DCS, anyone using this stick on a Rhino ??, does the base support all the hats, buttons and sliders it has available ??

Thanks

HHotdognz Stick choice - hi all now I have my Rhino mounted I need to make a stick choice,...

TheAmazinGreat•1/11/25, 1:17 AM

Pretty sure it supports everything but the shaker functionality. In order for it to work with the Rhino you will need the Winwing adapter that Walmis sells.

TrigaNZ•1/11/25, 5:23 AM

I have it, it's excellent. The little shaker bit does not work, but you don't need it obviously.

TTrigaNZ I have it, it's excellent. The little shaker bit does not work, but you don't ne...

Hotdognz•1/11/25, 6:27 AM

Thanks

Ssmitty my diy setup uses the 57blf03.. and its pretty uncomfortable at 100% spring to h...

Boggy•1/11/25, 8:19 AM

Sounds like you need to work out more.

Just kidding.

GettinBetter•1/11/25, 9:12 AM

I'm a bit confused, the 86BLF series https://www.promoco-motors.com/products/BLDC/86BLF%20Series.pdf seems to show different specs to that listed in the faqs pages for the DIY motors. The body length is shown in the faqs page for the 86BLF04 as 94mm, but the specs in the promoco data sheet shows the motor body length as 57mm. Is this the wrong data sheet? is there a typo somewhere? Can somebody advise, as I'm trying to model these parts up.

GGettinBetter I'm a bit confused, the 86BLF series https://www.promoco-motors.com/products/BLD...

walmis•1/11/25, 10:30 AM

Yeah some manufacturers have different naming for these models for some reason, try looking up ACT motor datasheets

Wwalmis Yeah some manufacturers have different naming for these models for some reason, ...

GettinBetter•1/11/25, 10:45 AM

Ok, thank you. I've ordered these, so the ACT datasheet is what I'm going to get ?

walmis•1/11/25, 10:54 AM

Physical dimensions - yes

Fr4Ged•1/11/25, 11:05 AM

Walmis, did you get your FLNKR yet?

walmis•1/11/25, 11:06 AM

Nope, not a word yet

DDracks Here's some video (sorry I had to cut it down) AND Sorry for my bad english 😉

Spelljammer1•1/11/25, 11:26 AM

Thanks for these videos! Very informative even just for us still waiting for ours to arrive

The clicking action on the flip-down trigger sounds great in your video 3

Wwalmis Physical dimensions - yes

GettinBetter•1/11/25, 11:46 AM

Perfect, many thx

Wwalmis Nope, not a word yet

ReapDaddy•1/11/25, 12:53 PM

No word here either. Ordered in July. Can’t wait though.

SSpelljammer1 Thanks for these videos! Very informative even just for us still waiting for our...

Dracks•1/11/25, 1:40 PM

You're welcome! It's really a great grip. Only 1 thing I must do is contacting Virpil for the right Hat. It's moving a little despite the fact that I pushed it all the way in

DDracks You're welcome! It's really a great grip. Only 1 thing I must do is contacting V...

Fr4Ged•1/11/25, 1:52 PM

did you replace the HATs yet? some of them have the alignment arrow the wrong way. lol

FFr4Ged did you replace the HATs yet? some of them have the alignment arrow the wrong wa...

Dracks•1/11/25, 2:33 PM

Yeah. The extrem right and the "middle" one. The middle one is moving (little but hum...)
But thank you for the information. I must try that !

RUSHER•1/11/25, 3:22 PM

I'm in Germany and got mine from Virpil in Lithuania.

Fr4Ged•1/11/25, 3:34 PM

probably mostly about order number.
mine is no. 22

GGettinBetter I'm a bit confused, the 86BLF series https://www.promoco-motors.com/products/BLD...

smitty•1/11/25, 5:06 PM

i have step files of motors here https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1324449671443386459/1324455437642367086

DDracks Yeah. The extrem right and the "middle" one. The middle one is moving (little bu...

Fr4Ged•1/11/25, 6:58 PM

are you already using the FLNKR with the Rhino or are you waiting or are you waiting for that grip type profile? if yes how did you set it up?

FFr4Ged are you already using the FLNKR with the Rhino or are you waiting or are you wai...

RUSHER•1/11/25, 7:25 PM

I started using it now because I could not wait. I selected the Alpha Grip profile. What doesn't work are the swappable Buttons. There not all positions are recognized or I get double inputs. But for me that is Ok right now.

FFr4Ged are you already using the FLNKR with the Rhino or are you waiting or are you wai...

Dracks•1/11/25, 7:31 PM

Same answer as Gadreel

. You can check my post 2-3 days ago for more explanation

Dracks•1/11/25, 7:31 PM

Or my vids

Dracks•1/11/25, 7:33 PM

In a nuts: if you're ok with less buttons or you're impatient go try this grip

DDracks In a nuts: if you're ok with less buttons or you're impatient go try this grip �...

Fr4Ged•1/11/25, 8:25 PM

ah, just checked your videos.
it basically is the same for me. the cursor controller and the brake axis aren't working at all.
I think I will switch back to the Constellation until Walmis gets hands on his FLNKR

Wwalmis Nope, not a word yet

Anthony•1/12/25, 2:38 PM

Chucks, I’d kinda have thought you’d be prioritised tbh

Panzuur•1/12/25, 7:53 PM

Does anyone know the height of the Winwing stick adapter , or have a step file of the adapter?

VKNG•1/13/25, 8:25 AM

Can anyone help me with dialing in my Rhino for the F4? I’m having a hell of a time getting it to feel right.

CCapnFlint I've been not paying attention for a bit. Are there any updated recommended sett...

VKNG•1/13/25, 8:53 AM

!!!

VVKNG Can anyone help me with dialing in my Rhino for the F4? I’m having a hell of a t...

Touch_Of_Legend•1/13/25, 9:52 AM

You’re aware of the bellows system right?

The phantom doesn’t really fly like a normal airframe but that’s what makes her special.

Hi, I'm new, here. I'm building a heli simulator and already own cyclic and collective from 737diysi

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