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mark turner•1/10/25, 8:10 AM

So I just noticed a strange thing. Carefully re made my 4 configs for the jets I fly the other day after rrecalibrating following the posted guide here, using the balance spring adjustment to make the stick stay in position etc and then re set telem FFB to use the new configs when each jet is selected. Flying the hornet last night, I noticed the stick felt extra stiff in the X axis, checked rthis morning and my profile had reset the balance spring settings to all axis linked and 20% for each..... WTF? The settings I had come upo with for each profile was -20 forwards, -30 back ( this to counter the weight of my Z extrension and grip) and zero on the X axis. What would possibly cause that? I carefully applied settings, stored, then exported them for each profile. Any ideas whats happening and why? Have NEVER set the linked and 20% settings for anything, so where is it getting these from?

BBeidlmilian Generic Grip

TheAmazinGreat•1/10/25, 4:02 PM

I meant to reply to you above: 🧰support

Bearface (Chris)•1/10/25, 8:01 PM

I'm still receiving this error which is stopping me open VPForce FFB Configurator (v1.0.16-1): when I click OK the Configurator closes. I have Rhino Firmware 1.0,17b12. How do I fix this?

f14billy•1/10/25, 8:14 PM

You probably need to download the latest configurator

BBearface (Chris)I'm still receiving this error which is stopping me open VPForce FFB Configurato...

Fr4Ged•1/10/25, 9:00 PM

you are using the latest Rhino firmware and try to open the configurator with a version from September 2023. just download the latest configurator.
https://vpforce.eu/usb/rhino/

VKNG•1/10/25, 9:47 PM

Where can I find the specs on the latest rhino? Trying to see if it’s worth it to upgrade to the newest. Apparently there are larger motors?

ono•1/10/25, 9:55 PM

Hello, I have some issue with the usb connection.
The following error message is displayed: “Power surge at USB port - unknown USB device requires more power than the connector can provide”
Does anyone have any idea where the error is?

ono•1/10/25, 9:57 PM

I tried the connection directly as well as via a usb hub with power

Oono Hello, I have some issue with the usb connection. The following error message i...

Hotdognz•1/11/25, 12:52 AM

Try this I had the same issues a couple of days ago this fixed it for me, @f14billy was the one who helped with it

This bug happens in Win11 with the current firmware. Managed to make a one-liner workaround, but should be fixed in the upcoming firmware release.
Open up a PowerShell window as Administrator and paste the following

Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\VID_FFFF&PID_2055&MI_03\*\Device Parameters" -Name "DeviceInterfaceGUID" -Value "{DA10CDEF-26A6-47D9-970E-B3D561A277FA}"

Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\VID_FFFF&PID_2055&MI_03\*\Device Parameters" -Name "DeviceInterfaceGUID" -Value "{DA10CDEF-26A6-47D9-970E-B3D561A277FA}"

Then unplug and plug the Rhino USB

*Reboot might be required

HHotdognz Try this I had the same issues a couple of days ago this fixed it for me, @f14bi...

kaltokri•1/11/25, 3:46 AM

@walmis Maybe the configurator can get a function to check if this RegKey exists and if not it creates it?

mark turner•1/11/25, 8:41 AM

Further to my post yesterday, changed the profile AGAIN, yesterday, started the PC today and same thing has happened:

2025-01-11_08_38_53-VPforce_FFB_Configurator_v1.0.17b2_Joystick_364D544E0E00003014004800_Hor.png

mark turner•1/11/25, 8:41 AM

This is driving me crazy....can someone help?

mark turner•1/11/25, 8:43 AM

It seems to only re set the balance spring settings and only on this one profile, which was the one I was last using

kaltokri•1/11/25, 8:44 AM

Did you check the file permissions? Maybe the app cannot write the changes to disk.

mark turner•1/11/25, 8:46 AM

it accepts the proper settings when I cchange it....I can then open other profiles, then go back to that profile, it remains as I corrected it. So that profile has definitely accepted teh changes. It seems to happen between shutting down and restarting?

mark turner•1/11/25, 8:47 AM

So every time I start Telem and VP conf, I have to reset the balance spring part.....

kaltokri•1/11/25, 8:49 AM

Where did you place the app? I know Windows has some protections feature which "repair" app located in "Program Files" and "Program Files(x86)".
Or is it a folder where some kind of replication is configured like OneDrive, GoogleDrive, DropBox etc.?

mark turner•1/11/25, 8:55 AM

HHotdognz Try this I had the same issues a couple of days ago this fixed it for me, @f14bi...

ono•1/11/25, 9:54 AM

Thanks, I will try this

mark turner•1/11/25, 9:54 AM

I also, just now, had the stick cut out....was not a USB disconnect, the motors went offline ( red text in VPconf software) This is the first time I have ever had this happen, they were not overloaded, the fans were not on either.....Is there a log that I can post or look at to see whats happenening? Somewhat worrying, as thats the last thing I need to start happening. Been faultless since I got it as well......

Mmark turner I also, just now, had the stick cut out....was not a USB disconnect, the motors ...

walmis•1/11/25, 10:28 AM

The filters are probably a bit too tight for the high spring gains and loop instability starts occurring, try reducing

vel estimator gain

vel estimator gain

a bit (5 counts), it should help.

Mmark turner Further to my post yesterday, changed the profile AGAIN, yesterday, started the ...

walmis•1/11/25, 10:28 AM

can you attach your vpconf profile? I'll try to reproduce

walmis•1/11/25, 10:29 AM

btw, why is your balance spring negative?

mark turner•1/11/25, 1:14 PM

Hi Walmis, here is the profile

Hornet.vpconf7.23KB

mark turner•1/11/25, 1:17 PM

Balance is negative as that was the figure that kept the stick roughly where I placed it, when it was forwards of centre position when I was doing the calibration process as shown in the video that was linked. A positive figure, or less than -20 , the stick would go full forwards if I placed it anywhere forward of centre

mark turner•1/11/25, 1:19 PM

Thanks for the gain suggestion, have implemented and will see what happens

mark turner•1/11/25, 1:22 PM

For context, I have the stick mounted backwards ( pots at front) and am using a virpil Z extension, so the grip is a lot offset from centre.

Mmark turner So every time I start Telem and VP conf, I have to reset the balance spring part...

smitty•1/11/25, 2:34 PM

do you have a startup profile set in telemffb?

mark turner•1/11/25, 3:17 PM

negative

mark turner•1/11/25, 3:17 PM

looks same as your screemgrab

Reed•1/11/25, 4:23 PM

Man I am a dumbass. I’ve been running my max psu Amps at 4.0. I’m not sure when that number got changed. I recently saw the stock psu max is 9.0. So I bumped number in the software up to 7.0. Wow. What a difference. I really forgot how powerful the stock rhino can be.

maleioch•1/11/25, 5:23 PM

Is there a setting that will "dampen" the stick falling forward when DCS closes? Right now, when the spring is released it falls forward with a "thud". I have an extension on mine.

Bob Bushman•1/11/25, 5:32 PM

Your hand and arm.

Mmaleioch Is there a setting that will "dampen" the stick falling forward when DCS closes?...

smitty•1/11/25, 5:42 PM

make a weak spring and stronger dampening in configurator's effects tab. these take over when the game isnt running

smitty•1/11/25, 5:43 PM

Reed•1/11/25, 6:15 PM

I just know mine is going to fall and brace it.

Sharkku•1/11/25, 6:41 PM

Hi! I just tried to update firmware, but it just hung on "updating". The button just kept being greyed out. Now the stick doesn't work and the software says "disconnected" and "Rhino firmware: none". Have I bricked it?

Edit: It worked after a restart and re-update of firmware. Phew!

Ourorborus•1/12/25, 3:57 AM

Is there a keybind for the "reset Motors" function? If not can I make it a feature request? Occasionally (particularly when getting the settings right for a new aircraft) I find the motors overload and require resetting. This requires getting out of VR, leaving the simpit, alt-tabbing from the the sim(possibly mid-flight) to reset. A simple keybind would be fantastic.

Reed•1/12/25, 4:09 AM

OOurorborus Is there a keybind for the "reset Motors" function? If not can I make it a featu...

TheAmazinGreat•1/12/25, 5:58 AM

Have you tried cycling the e-stop?

mark turner•1/12/25, 7:46 AM

again this morning on turning on the PC, my profile balance spring settings are all changed to linked and 20%........

Mmark turner again this morning on turning on the PC, my profile balance spring settings are ...

TheAmazinGreat•1/12/25, 1:00 PM

Are you clicking apply or are you clicking store? If you click apply it’s temporary and will revert. You should hear two chirps from the board when clicking store. I usually click both apply and store for good measure.

Mmark turner again this morning on turning on the PC, my profile balance spring settings are ...

Dracks•1/12/25, 1:35 PM

You're sure you don't load a specific profile at startup ? Settings menu (VP config app)

Dracks•1/12/25, 1:36 PM

Because you're issue is strange ! A file/folder don't modify itself (but because update/writing or thing like that)

Dracks•1/12/25, 1:37 PM

I say this in all benevolence! (I translate my thoughts into English)

Dracks•1/12/25, 1:40 PM

(And check what TheAmazinGreat said)

walmis•1/12/25, 2:01 PM

I wasn't able to reproduce it - so it's probably like @Dracks said - my guess is telemFFB is configured to load a FFB profile on startup?

mark turner•1/13/25, 7:19 AM

Will double check, cheers

mark turner•1/13/25, 3:02 PM

I found that telemFFB is loading a version of a config, so changed that. What was strange was that the version it loads has no effects boxes ticked, in the balance spring section, which is greyed out, I can see the settings are all at 20%. So when it loads that config, it also somehow checks the box to make balance spring section active.

mark turner•1/13/25, 3:03 PM

However, my stick motors did need re setting again today, I have reduced by 5% the suggested setting, but it is obviously not doing the trick......any ideas?

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