If the axis settings in DCS don’t effect a rhino product, how do I reduce the sensitivity of my rudd

If the axis settings in DCS don’t effect a rhino product, how do I reduce the sensitivity of my rudder pedals? I’m darting all over the place trying to takeoff in the A10C. Cheers.

TTrigaNZ If the axis settings in DCS don’t effect a rhino product, how do I reduce the se...

Number481•1/20/25, 3:54 AM

The axis settings (curve and saturation) do affect the rhino.. just in a negative way. There's no correlation in the game between the axis scaling and the FFB output so when you enable a curve or saturation setting, the "axis position" and "ffb position" are out of sync.

Now, that said, DCS doesn't support FFB rudders natively and the FFB is handled by TelemFFB. You might actually get away with setting a saturation in the axis settings in DCS. I haven't tried it but I think it should work OK.

The alternative would be to set up a configurator proifle and manually edit the calibrated range max and min values. For example, if your calibrated range is 1275 to 3003, simply subtract/add an equal amount from both ends. 1075 and 3203 as an example. This will cause the full physical deflection of the axis to only amount to a partial excursion in the game , which is exactly what the saturation does for reducing sensitivity.

NNumber481 The axis settings (curve and saturation) **do** affect the rhino.. just in a neg...

TrigaNZOP•1/20/25, 4:59 AM

Excellent, thank you, I'll try that. Cheers.

NNumber481 The axis settings (curve and saturation) **do** affect the rhino.. just in a neg...

TrigaNZOP•1/20/25, 6:58 AM

So, changing the axis is DCS did literally nothing, but I think your other option helped a bit, will need to try with a much bigger +/- to test.

Number481•1/20/25, 1:15 PM

Ahh, yeah. For pedals if you have the TelemFFB pedal trimming feature enabled I can see that behavior. When that is enabled we actually override the axis position by sending it via the API (so that we can control the actual axis position when the pedals move in response to "trim".

In that case, yeah, the axis settings in DCS (even including inversion) will do nothing.

I'm curious though.. I'm not some sort of super pilot but I never found the A10 to be particularly twitchy on the ground, even without disabling nosewheel steering at 70Kt as per the takeoff procedure. My modded ACE pedals do have a fairly large range of motion though (same as standard ACE).

Shamansky•1/20/25, 5:57 PM

Is your Configurator v1.0.17b2 loading settings from device's memory on application start, my doesn't? Is Configurator's functions of Load Settings and Revert redundant? Does exactly the same thing or is there something I don't know about?

SShamansky Is your Configurator v1.0.17b2 loading settings from device's memory on applicat...

Number481•1/20/25, 6:28 PM

"revert" will load the "running config" from the device into the configurator settings
"load" will load the "saved config" from the device into the configurator settings.

Running/saved config could be different if you made a modification and hit Apply rather than Store. This will change the running config, but will not save it to flash.

NNumber481 Ahh, yeah. For pedals if you have the TelemFFB pedal trimming feature enabled I...

TrigaNZOP•1/20/25, 8:09 PM

The A10 is an outlier for me, most other modules and MSFS are pretty good. Perhaps my Slaw range of motion is different. Will TelemFFB/Configurator ever have an axis scaling feature do you think?

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/20/25, 11:10 PM

I guys, I recently plugged my Rhino back because the other ffb base I was using has a cable issue. Like the first time I used the Rhino a year ago or so, most my DX buttons are ON, and I cannot click any... does anyone how to solve this ? thanks

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/20/25, 11:10 PM

look. the whole colomn is ON, but I cannot click any. Its the thrustmaster F-18 stick

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/20/25, 11:13 PM

thanks a lot for your support

FFEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel look. the whole colomn is ON, but I cannot click any. Its the thrustmaster F-18 ...

walmis•1/21/25, 7:41 AM

Hi, can you do a quick test with the older v16 firmware? That will help me to isolate the issue. Don't forget to export your current settings.
You can downgrade using this link https://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/#force=ffb-rhino_v1.0.16.bin

TonyZ2525•1/21/25, 7:47 AM

@FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel is there a setting for grip type for f-18 thrustmaster cause you got it set for Generic Grip?

TonyZ2525•1/21/25, 7:49 AM

same happened to me with my Virpil Constellation Alpha

TonyZ2525•1/21/25, 7:50 AM

@walmis

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 4:47 PM

i have downgraded to 1.0.16. same issue

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 4:50 PM

I must specify that i own 2 different F-18 sticks and one brand new, and it happens with both of them. I also own the Virpil Warbrd and the VFX, and if I plug them, and set the proper stick type in VP Force configurator I am faced with the same exact problem

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 4:50 PM

so i suspect it comes from the base

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 4:51 PM

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 4:52 PM

first time I received the VPforce month ago, i had the same issue, and for some reason after 1 hour of doing tries, it worked. but i dont really know what fixed it back then. Then I started using another FFb base to try. now I want to come back to the rhino and I am facing this again

walmis•1/21/25, 4:55 PM

Thanks for testing, and if you unplug the grip the buttons deactivate?

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 4:57 PM

you mean unplugginh the grip from the base ? let me try

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 4:57 PM

If I hot unplug the grip from the base the buttons stay ON/RED

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:00 PM

confirmed. Also, if I plug the base with no grip attached, bith the VP configurator and windows game controller show all buttons in RED/activated

walmis•1/21/25, 5:00 PM

Can you remove the 2 screws on top of the grip mount and unplug the little connector block

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:00 PM

yes, can do

walmis•1/21/25, 5:00 PM

let's see if it's causing a short

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:08 PM

screw same deal with screw removed and connector unplugged. all buttons are activated

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:09 PM

no sure how im gonna replug the connector now. its too short to grab out and plug. I will have to open the base

walmis•1/21/25, 5:10 PM

you can open the 4 screws that hold the leather in place and feed in the cable a little

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:10 PM

yes, I remember doing that

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:10 PM

Now buttons are off

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:11 PM

WAIT . now buttons are off

walmis•1/21/25, 5:11 PM

what did you do?

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:11 PM

honestly. nothing. just chatting with you. let me see if I unplug the base a replug

walmis•1/21/25, 5:12 PM

Try wiggling the cable and plugging back the connector block - see if the buttons stay off

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:13 PM

so I plugged it in and buttons where on, but when I wiggled the cable they went off again

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:13 PM

i need to open the base and see if the cable is damaged somehow creating a short

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:14 PM

maybe insulation of the cable has been damaged

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:15 PM

i need some time removing the base from, my cockpit and opening everything. I will report on my discoveries inside. Thank you for the support so far

walmis•1/21/25, 5:15 PM

I think I'll send you a new cable with connector

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:15 PM

much appreciated

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:16 PM

let me first see if I can isolate the issue

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:16 PM

you know whats funny ? the reason I came back to the Rhino is that my other FFB had stopped workijng because the cable was pinched too tight by some cable tie and created the same type of problem...

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:17 PM

Same type of symptoms, and apparently same type of issue

walmis•1/21/25, 5:39 PM

I kinda suspect this could be at the connector, the insulation is pretty thick on that cable

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:45 PM

Ok, here with the good news. I identified the issue. One of the leads contained in the main cable wasnt fully seated/connected in the plug, that then goes into the connector, to wich the grip is connected. I suspect it was either creating a short, OR, missing one contact from the 5-6 leads( i didnt count how many they are and I dont know how they work, but of coruse you need all of them for the whole sytsem to work)

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:46 PM

long story short, I pushed it in to seat it in properly, so that it makes contact. and now it works. will it last ? I dont know.

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:47 PM

i dont think i have the tools to install a new plug that would make sure that all the leads are firmly attached to the plug, but for now it seems to hold.

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:48 PM

of course, id be glad to purchase a spare cable from you, so that in case the issue arises again, i will simply swap the cable. I am willing to pay for this, as this is normal wear and tear. nothing to do with a defect or anything

FEVER 1-1 | FZG_Immel•1/21/25, 5:51 PM

Once again , your quick and prompt support is top notch. much appreciated. thank you

If the axis settings in DCS don’t effect a rhino product, how do I reduce the sensitivity of my rudd

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