Quick support question regards the VPF shift register…….connected to VPF control board as per schema

Quick support question regards the VPF shift register…….connected to VPF control board as per schematic provided on this Discord…..and checked with DIMM that connections are sound and correct.
Will it work, that is button presses register in the VP Configurator app if board is only powered by USB……..motors not yet connected with power…….i thought the board itself is powered by USB 5v and so therefore the shift register should work…..right?

FFr4Ged There also is a metal variant of that adapter which I would get if I would take ...

Blackrat•2/6/25, 11:03 AM

I got the metal one anyway for longevity. plus I may swap between VKB and TM warthog.

MMike T Quick support question regards the VPF shift register…….connected to VPF control...

TheAmazinGreat•2/6/25, 11:52 AM

Yes, USB connection should be all you need to see button presses.

TeufelHunden•2/6/25, 2:29 PM

TeufelHunden•2/6/25, 2:30 PM

my belt got loose so I tighten it up but I was a dummy and didn't hit the E stop before taking belt off so now I had to re calibrate every single profile I had... I see this number is now RED is this a bad thing?

TeufelHunden•2/6/25, 2:31 PM

it is suppose to be around 2048 right how do I fix?

TTeufelHunden it is suppose to be around 2048 right how do I fix?

TheAmazinGreat•2/6/25, 2:39 PM

Red number means you have a calibration value outside 0..4096. If you turned on your base with the stick in the negative X region it would not find proper center and would lock itself to one side. To fix it you would need to take the belt off, manually set the calibration range 0..4096, then put the belt back on with your stick centered.

TheAmazinGreat•2/6/25, 2:40 PM

And then recalibrate

TTheAmazinGreat And then recalibrate

TeufelHunden•2/6/25, 2:47 PM

thank you so much that worked!

TTheAmazinGreat Yes, USB connection should be all you need to see button presses.

Mike TOP•2/6/25, 9:32 PM

Thanks…..I guess I need to check the wiring again……none show up, indicating a ground issue but I’ve checked continuity and it’s fine……mmmmm
I wired it up as per pic attached. Selected VP shift register as the grip selection……switches to ground on Shift register and to each of the 32 input positions, but nothing …….is there something else I have to enable?

Mike TOP•2/7/25, 3:40 AM

MMike T Click to see attachment

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 3:51 AM

Button wiring is the issue. Each of those 4 pins are buttons. They connect to the ground from the VPF main board. So in your pic you have
yellow/yellow/yellow/black

but in reality it’s

yellow/yellow/yellow/yellow to separate GND

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 3:52 AM

If that makes sense

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 3:58 AM

sorry for the crude drawing

TTheAmazinGreat Button wiring is the issue. Each of those 4 pins are buttons. They connect to th...

Mike TOP•2/7/25, 4:07 AM

Actually as per your pic is how it’s wired…….the pic I posted was from a pic I downloaded from somewhere else on this discord to help with how the connection between shift register and VP control board. My switches are all connected to ground in series and the other side of switches to respective input on Shift register sequentially. So if there is no other requirement to do, it must be either board faulty or I’ve connected something wrong???

Mike TOP•2/7/25, 4:10 AM

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 4:14 AM

On the 6 pin input connector I see 5 wires which is correct but it looks like they are in positions 1-5? Hard to tell so maybe not but are you sure that is all correct? Looks like it’s missing GND but maybe that’s on the screw terminal?

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 4:16 AM

It looks like DI is connected for some reason.

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 4:16 AM

Maybe I see a GND wire hiding back there.

Mike TOP•2/7/25, 4:32 AM

Here is a better pic……D1 is wired but goes nowhere as not used…..D0 goes to D1 on VPF board. I’ll recheck connection between boards again.

MMike T Here is a better pic……D1 is wired but goes nowhere as not used…..D0 goes to D1 o...

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 11:47 AM

Ok I see it. If the buttons are as the drawing I posted and board to board is correct it has to be an issue with the grounding or the board to board connections. This might be a dumb question but is the GND used for buttons connected to the same GND used for the board to board connection?

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 11:47 AM

A pic of the configurator debug tab with the debug grip option selected may help troubleshoot also.

NIKO_BG•2/7/25, 1:19 PM

My natural damping compensation value is set at 20%, that way I feal stick moving without any resistance. Is it normal such high value providing that the default is 4%( I am using 86bl04 engines)?

NNIKO_BG My natural damping compensation value is set at 20%, that way I feal stick movin...

smitty•2/7/25, 1:34 PM

if that's what it takes, nothing wrong with that. tune to your hardware, not everyone elses.

NIKO_BG•2/7/25, 1:45 PM

wolfman59#6013•2/7/25, 4:16 PM

hello everyone,
can you confirm to me that there will be no risks, because I am about to connect my rhino VPforce for the first time, with my meanwell 360w 16A only to power my rhino for the moment?
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Chris•2/7/25, 6:10 PM

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

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GettinBetter•2/7/25, 6:59 PM

@walmis I've just ordered another pair of motors from yourselves, and a spare FFB circuit board, is it possible that you could add to the invoice and include a spare USB connector cable and PCB plug?

Wwolfman59#6013 hello everyone, can you confirm to me that there will be no risks, because I am...

Blackrat•2/7/25, 7:34 PM

I have a 350w 14A meanwell with the rhino hooked up at 8amps and the rhino MFG at 4 amps, my understanding is that the device will only draw the amps it needs.

Blackrat•2/7/25, 7:35 PM

But there is always a risk whenever you hook power up

BBlackrat I have a 350w 14A meanwell with the rhino hooked up at 8amps and the rhino MFG a...

wolfman59#6013•2/7/25, 7:36 PM

ok okay, I didn't understand that, that's great thank you very much

Blackrat•2/7/25, 7:39 PM

But like all these things, its your responsibility

Blackrat•2/7/25, 7:39 PM

Welcome to DIY bespoke hardware

Blackrat•2/7/25, 7:40 PM

Maybe list your meanwell here?

MMike T Here is a better pic……D1 is wired but goes nowhere as not used…..D0 goes to D1 o...

FalconMechanics•2/7/25, 8:01 PM

Hey Mike, I'm building a custom H135 cyclic right now and encountered the same issues. checked everything twice redid all my connection; I was able to measure 5v coming all the way through my buttons. What I didn't know; you need to apply 24v to the rhino too to have the button presses registered. I hope that fixes your problem as well!

FFalconMechanics Hey Mike, I'm building a custom H135 cyclic right now and encountered the same i...

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 9:16 PM

I just spent the last hour on DCS messing with SRS binds on a hat switch of my stick with no power to the base other than USB connection.

TheAmazinGreat•2/7/25, 9:17 PM

Buttons should work with USB only.

FalconMechanics•2/7/25, 9:35 PM

Too be fair it didn’t make sense too me why I would need to power it up.

FalconMechanics•2/7/25, 9:35 PM

Maybe something to do with configuring when switching from joystick source? I came from loopback to the shift register

Dimexi•2/7/25, 11:58 PM

Hi, I bought a while ago the ffb kit with usb board and couple of motors. Currently (first try) the board beeps, the led flashes once and windows states that usb board not recognized. This was kept in the ESD bag until assembled to base.

Dimexi•2/7/25, 11:59 PM

board is rhino ffb board Rev 1.6

carm•2/8/25, 12:10 AM

carm•2/8/25, 12:11 AM

because of a stick extension, the stick base rests a little off center. how can i recenter this?

carm•2/8/25, 12:11 AM

spring balance seems to be related to this but not quite the same thing?

carm•2/8/25, 12:16 AM

ok, got it, static force

Reed•2/8/25, 3:03 AM

id use both

TTheAmazinGreat Ok I see it. If the buttons are as the drawing I posted and board to board is co...

Mike TOP•2/8/25, 5:31 AM

OK so I decided to take out the Shift Register and VPF main board out of my DIY collective and make up a test setup as per pic attached. This way no way there is any possible wiring issues. Just the one button to test. Nothing! no reaction to btn press.......zilch! Double checked wiring and continuity all good!

FFalconMechanics Hey Mike, I'm building a custom H135 cyclic right now and encountered the same i...

Mike TOP•2/8/25, 6:35 AM

Yes tried with motor connected as well.......see attached pics.......same result, No response to button press.....ZILCH! I guess the Shift register is faulty or something fundamentally not making sense here......Unless @walmis can suggest a fix I'll have to go and try to get warranty return (new item) or look at going with a Bodnar board....which I really don't want to do as the extensive wiring has been done for the shift register....really disappointing outcome.

MMike T Yes tried with motor connected as well.......see attached pics.......same result...

TheAmazinGreat•2/8/25, 6:47 AM

When you select debug grip in the drop down, what does the debug tab show?

TheAmazinGreat•2/8/25, 6:49 AM

@Mike T try this also: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1237460127087333460

TheAmazinGreat•2/8/25, 6:51 AM

Or this: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1301275762271457394

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