but live streaming with sub second latency is a difffrent beast to tackle
but live streaming with sub second latency is a difffrent beast to tackle
1Which is part of the reason why it costs what it costs. It's not easy doing what they're doing, and I think the pricing model is a good balance and is better than other platforms who charge per GB instead of per min
AOne can only request i guess, currently the pricing makes whole lot of ideas not feasible tbh
ASadly the current state of sub second latency scenes means only startups who can burn cash initially can do interactive streams
1Sounds like you aren't adequately monetized tbh. I am most definitely not in a startup
1Do you have a Stream sub on your account?
1It shows below Security Insights too
1Im thinking maybe its because you dont have a separate Stream subscription, I am not an expert but thats what comes to mind for me. a sub to Stream is entirely separate to your Pro/Business/Ent. subscription
HIs Stream down?
HI believe Stream API is down. All requests return 502 Bad Gateway.
EYep. I'm getting the same.
EStarting to get requests through now, though.
H:plus1green:
HBut it’s strange we still don’t see any status page update.
HStatus here, looks like it’s still not fully recovered
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/9l0mt6ctfdsk
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/9l0mt6ctfdsk
1Minor UI complaint: when browsing the list of live inputs, you should let me open each one in a new tab! Currently I have to open them one by one, when Im trying to get through a dozen at once its frustrating
1When generating an MP4 download, are there any particulars around speed, or when generating multiple clips at a time? Would be good to be able to predict load times as I usually have a bulk lot (5-20 3hour videos) to generate more or less at once, get an idea of how the OTE encoder operates im that regard
Thello im having trouble locating signed urls in Cloudlfare where do i go to get it
Qhey are these limitations for stream webrtc still up to date. specifically, i was wondering if we could WHIP from video source to CF then play with RTMP or WHEP. thanks
1What are you trying to do exactly?
FIf I were to create an app to live-stream my league games, like live and real-time, should I reach for the real-time product or CF Stream?
Fany reason why?
Fsomeone told me that it depends on how much latency i want
1Stream is for streaming video, Realtime is for streaming data (could be video)
1Stream has WebRTC streaming if you want low latency
1If you're streaming video games then latency really doesn't matter
Fwell, makes sense
Falthough they are marketing CF Realtime for videos and audio as well
FCloudflare Docs
Cloudflare Realtime is infrastructure for real-time audio/video/data applications. It allows you to build real-time apps without worrying about scaling or regions. It can act as a selective forwarding unit (WebRTC SFU), as a fanout delivery system for broadcasting (WebRTC CDN) or anything in between.
Fbut ya, a few seconds latency doesn't matter for my usecase
1Stream charges per minute viewed, Realtime charges per GB so will probs end up being more expensive in the long run
1Realtime wont record your streams into VODs, or generate thumbnails, or let you download the stream, or embed the stream
Fyeah, that's right, i think the choice is clear now
Fthanks for the info
JAre we still quite a ways off from having an input stream and output stream of differing formats? Specifically, I have a use case where I need to stream in with SRT and output to WHEP. Stream seems like the perfect product for this, rather than running a conversion gateway locally to produce a WHIP stream.
JIs there anyone that can sanity check some of my pricing calculations?
J20,000 viewers of 1200 minutes per month.
$1 per 1000 minutes = $0.001 per minute.
Cost per user: 0.001 * 1200 = $1.20
Total cost per month: 20,000 * 1.2 = $24000
$1 per 1000 minutes = $0.001 per minute.
Cost per user: 0.001 * 1200 = $1.20
Total cost per month: 20,000 * 1.2 = $24000
1Do you have existing accurate analytics to support your view numbers, or just basing off rough numbers? Your math is correct, but its very rare that a viewer will be watching long form content for the entire time. I do many regular 3 hour streams, with hundreds of total views, and average 5-25K minutes viewed per stream. Which means each viewer is only watching a small portion of the total runtime on average
1Definitely curious on this one, would open some cool use cases
1I've asked this before, but with the Browser Rendering API and OTFE platform slowly maturing over time, is there possibility for being able to inject a HTML5 browser instance over the top of a live stream? That and input switching would be the only things I need to entirely transition from AWS
JYeah, this is all theoretical; on behalf of a client I'm doing consulting for. I too, think the numbers are ambitious, but I have to give them a cost based on their figures
1From pure math, the cost is legit. But in my experience (2000 videos per year), CF Stream is the cheapest around without having huge bandwidth/view numbers (many millions)
JDo you happen to know if there's any price breaks for large users? there's no mentions on the site
1Enterprise starts at 3K per month but I've had no concrete confirmation of price cut numbers because I'm below that monthly minimum usage
