Open Brush, Open Blocks, Icosa Gallery•5y ago

Icosa does naturally, and it’s there for others if they need it, we also have a template repo if it’

Icosa does naturally, and it’s there for others if they need it, we also have a template repo if it’s just a stanalone thing, I’ve used it on hic et nunc for example

Mmikesky Icosa does naturally, and it’s there for others if they need it, we also have a ...

NLR•11/9/21, 12:23 PM

Will we be able to export to Icosa at some point?

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:29 PM

Yes, you can manually do it now if you feel like it! Export from open brush, then upload via the web interface

NLR•11/9/21, 12:32 PM

My problem is that I want people to be able to use the stuff I make (here wearables) on other platforms. So far it looks nothing can really be exported out of open brush..

NLR•11/9/21, 12:34 PM

This is supposed to be the "double tapered marker" but I don't know how to fix it

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:35 PM

Everything can be exported, it’s just so special

that no one has really tried to support it before, I’d say we’re the first ones putting this code out there

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:36 PM

Making a GLTF extension is the most natural way for others to support it, so we’ll be looking at formalising that too

NLR•11/9/21, 12:37 PM

as of right now is there something I can do to have tilts working in any standard format?

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:39 PM

Only things built in unity specifically including the tilt brush toolkit will support it

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:39 PM

I think VRchat might but that’s not at runtime

NLR•11/9/21, 12:42 PM

how realistic is it that open brushes will be able to one day work on other platforms?

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:43 PM

Very, and that’s what we intend to push for with this community

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:44 PM

What programs and platforms are you thinking of specifically?

NLR•11/9/21, 12:44 PM

all

NLR•11/9/21, 12:45 PM

I want to make things "for the Metaverse". So either I can export to a globally supported format, or it does not really work for me

NLR•11/9/21, 12:45 PM

Your plan is currently to try to push every single new platform that will be created to do a bunch of work to include the openbrush SDK?

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:48 PM

GLTF is going to be the format for that for sure. Open brush will probably need some form of extension for it’s more special brushes for sure, but you can make that ridiculously easy for platform implementers, lemme get an example

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:50 PM

https://github.com/mozilla/hubs/pull/4741/files here’s an extension by the open metaverse group being added to Mozilla hubs

GitHub

OMI Audio Emitter by robertlong · Pull Request #4741 · mozilla/hubs

Hey Hubs team

long time no see! I'd like to get support for something we've been working on in OMI working in Hubs.
This PR adds support for the OMI_audio_emitter extension, a dra...

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 12:50 PM

SDK built once, only a few lines of code to add (and this is having to jump through hub’s much more complicated system so the base case is even easier)

NLR•11/9/21, 12:52 PM

So I'm thinking:
VRChat
Facebook horizons
Somnium Space
OVR
Decentraland
and more

NLR•11/9/21, 12:54 PM

In the meantime is there a way to fix the double tapered marker on Sketchfab? I did not think that this brush would give me problems

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 1:02 PM

That sort of support will rely on the closed platforms being happy about accepting open standards, and users pushing for it. For example VR chat has to be processed in unity and uploaded as unity’s proprietary format. It does happen to support the tilt brush toolkit though. No GLTF runtime support at all. If you’re interested in wearables then the platforms should be considering VRM avatars, which again is implemented as a GLTF extension.

mikeskyOP•11/9/21, 1:03 PM

I can’t comment about Sketchfab support I’m afraid, not looked at it a lot (after they didn’t have time for us)

NNLR So I'm thinking: VRChat Facebook horizons Somnium Space OVR Decentraland and mor...

andybak•11/9/21, 1:57 PM

In a lot of these cases, we need these platforms to talk to us, or at least respond if we contact them. That's often the tricky part.

annahoo.•11/9/21, 7:43 PM

New to discord, having an issue I can't solve with OB. This first screenshot is from the apps camera that I used in this painting a year or so ago. The foreground and background strokes are blurred, but there is no blurred vignette. I have since gone back into the same painting and tried to take photos, but there is no blurring effect at all. Was this in an update to the app?

Screen_Shot_2021-10-26_at_4.46.30_PM.png

annahoo.•11/9/21, 7:44 PM

This is my config file.

Screen_Shot_2021-11-09_at_11.40.49_AM.png

Aandybak In a lot of these cases, we need these platforms to talk to us, or at least resp...

AncientWorlds•11/10/21, 6:42 AM

Kind of a circular problem. Once the tools are built, and a community starts to really take shape, art blitz them on twitter.
Going to have a hard time pushing for integration until there's something fully defined that they can look at and go, ya, worth doing

Aannahoo.New to discord, having an issue I can't solve with OB. This first screenshot is ...

andybak•11/10/21, 10:01 AM

"A year or so ago" would have been before Open Brush was released. So - did you take this screenshot in Tilt Brush? Our first release was in January this year.

andybak•11/10/21, 10:02 AM

If it was Tilt Brush, then it's a bunch of stuff was changed by Google to make it possible to release as open source and it's hard to track down all those differences. If you just mean "I used an earlier version of Open Brush" then I might be able to dig a bit deeper to see what changed.

annahoo.•11/10/21, 5:49 PM

It was 100% open brush as my painting is still in there, and I've taken screenshots within the OB app since and they don't look similar, everything is in focus.

Aannahoo.It was 100% open brush as my painting is still in there, and I've taken screensh...

andybak•11/10/21, 7:01 PM

I'm a bit stumped. We've never had a depth of field effect. The 1.0 release didn't have bloom but it was then fixed. Multibrush had more effects but you're certain it was Open Brush... The only effects I'm aware that we've ever had is Bloom and Vignetting. I guess bloom could be mistaken for a depth of field blur - but it responds to brightness - not distance between the brush-stroke and the camera.

Uki Maru•11/10/21, 10:54 PM

In the experimental build, I see that the pictures taken do have a depth of field like effect. @annahoo. is this the kind of blur you are talking about?

annahoo.•11/10/21, 10:58 PM

Definitely not vignette because I customized the config file specifically to get rid of that (and have been able to toggle it back on and check to make sure it's not the effect I'm looking for). I haven't downloaded multibrush either. That might be the effect, I'm not sure, I've got another photo take in app of the same painting, different angle that might also show the effect better

annahoo.•11/10/21, 10:58 PM

it doesn't appear to be color related

Screen_Shot_2021-10-27_at_3.40.13_PM.png

annahoo.•11/10/21, 11:01 PM

where as now, same painting in OB, the background/foreground blur isn't happening.

Screen_Shot_2021-11-10_at_3.01.03_PM.png

annahoo.•11/10/21, 11:02 PM

I've always used the in-app camera, not the quest camera.

andybak•11/11/21, 5:51 PM

Yeah - I completely forgot about the Tilt Shift:

andybak•11/11/21, 5:51 PM

That is exactly what you're describing

andybak•11/11/21, 5:52 PM

Now - the question is - why isn't it coming out on screenshot?

Aandybak Yeah - I completely forgot about the Tilt Shift:

annahoo.•11/11/21, 6:58 PM

Thank you so much! I appreciate the help very much. Not sure how I can 'activate' that again though?

Aannahoo.Thank you so much! I appreciate the help very much. Not sure how I can 'activat...

andybak•11/11/21, 7:01 PM

No. It's something we need to from our side. I'm just curious if anyone else has noticed this. Searching the discord I can see people complaining about too much tilt shift but nobody commenting on the fact that it suddenly disappeared entirely. It's be grateful for some input from other artists.

VR Rosie•11/11/21, 9:54 PM

Interesting! Yeah all pics from Open Brush I have taken recently don't have this Tilt Shift anymore?

VR Rosie•11/11/21, 10:00 PM

I never noticed because I use the experimental build a lot now

VR Rosie•11/11/21, 10:14 PM

Oh I was a noob and had post processing off hehe, changed that and now I have Tilt Shift on Steam, Oculus and even tried the Beta branch too and all have Tilt Shift on

VVR Rosie Oh I was a noob and had post processing off hehe, changed that and now I have Ti...

andybak•11/11/21, 10:19 PM

hmmm. ok. so my next suggestion for @annahoo. - can you try removing your Open Brush.cfg entirely? (move it somewhere else and restart the app - you can move it back afterwards)

VR Rosie•11/11/21, 10:30 PM

Tried Quest too, all good, no issues with Tilt Shift my end.

annahoo.•11/11/21, 10:53 PM

OK just removed the config file, went into the same painting and took a screenshot and this is what it gave me. Vignette blur yes, but not the tilt shift

Aannahoo.OK just removed the config file, went into the same painting and took a screensh...

andybak•11/11/21, 10:57 PM

Not sure what you mean by "vignette blur" (the vignette effect darkens - it doesn't blur) - that looks like tilt shift to me

annahoo.•11/11/21, 11:02 PM

ok by vignette blur I just meant, it's blurred where vignette would typically be, the outer edges. That's not the effect I'm trying to get back though. If you check the edges of my first screenshot that I'm trying to recreate, the bottom right corner in the orange for example isn't blurred, but the black marks in the foreground are, as are the peach and orange marks in the background

Aannahoo.ok by vignette blur I just meant, it's blurred where vignette would typically be...

andybak•11/11/21, 11:03 PM

that image looks cropped (the aspect ratio is different) - do you have the original?

andybak•11/11/21, 11:04 PM

you're right though. it does look like depth of field.