Open Brush, Open Blocks, Icosa Gallery•5y ago

It might be possible to build something on top of Open Brush. What's tricky is extracting smaller pa

It might be possible to build something on top of Open Brush. What's tricky is extracting smaller parts of it. Have you looked at the API stuff? That is a good guide to how to activate specific bits of functionality outside of the main UI

Aandybak It might be possible to build something on top of Open Brush. What's tricky is e...

nike61•11/19/21, 1:35 PM

Not yet, but I'm going to look at API once I fix my environment

andybakOP•11/19/21, 1:38 PM

That stuff is hopefully going to be merged to main fairly soon: https://github.com/icosa-gallery/open-brush/pull/198

GitHub

Integrate 154, 155, 186, 187 into a single PR by andybak · Pull Req...

Insominx: Added "tags" to brushes and filtering based on them: #154
Andybak: Features/http api: #155
Andybak: Features/snapping: #186
Andybak: Features/color jitter: #187

Aandybak That stuff is hopefully going to be merged to main fairly soon: https://github.c...

nike61•11/19/21, 1:41 PM

wow...

chard•11/19/21, 2:02 PM

@andybak I just started playing with the "save selected strokes" & media library tools.
The unity scene that results when brought in via GLB doesn't contain the referenced models (they're just empty).
And the files that it spits out into the Media Library folder are .usd, which, I'm not sure if it's supported by the toolkit.

Let me know if you think this should work in theory, or if i'm barking up the wrong tree.

I'm going to see if there's a USD plugin I need in order to pull in the models first

Cchard @andybak I just started playing with the "save selected strokes" & media library...

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:02 PM

hmmm. good point.

Aandybak > Thanks, but I want to build it on my local machine in order to be able to chan...

mikeage•11/19/21, 2:03 PM

tiny nitpick (cc @nike61 ): it's

[CI BUILD]

[CI BUILD]

Mmikeage tiny nitpick (cc @nike61 ): it's `[CI BUILD]`

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:03 PM

doh! i knew something felt wrong as i typed that

chard•11/19/21, 2:03 PM

The tools, if they were to work would be SO handy

Cchard @andybak I just started playing with the "save selected strokes" & media library...

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:03 PM

i think nobody thought of using those two features at the same time

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:04 PM

personally - i would like to replace the "save selected strokes" with a more flexible approach. at the moment the strokes become non-editable (coz they are .usd files)

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:04 PM

I'd rather get scene merging/additive loading working

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:05 PM

and that is actually nearly done (but might have subtle bugs)

Aandybak I'd rather get scene merging/additive loading working

chard•11/19/21, 2:05 PM

yeah that'd be ideal

chard•11/19/21, 2:06 PM

In the meantime I can export each of my models as GLB and recombine it in unity using the Nulls as transform guides

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:06 PM

i keep meaning to get back to the scene merging. if i'm lucky i might even have a build today. assuming my last fix worked

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:07 PM

(so - now I've jinxed it obviously!)

chard•11/19/21, 2:14 PM

Maybe scene merging will skyrocket the scene complexity as well though?

chard•11/19/21, 2:14 PM

It sounds cool, I would use it today if I could

Cchard Maybe scene merging will skyrocket the scene complexity as well though?

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:14 PM

One of the things I'm stuck on is updating the tilt meter correctly

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:15 PM

but there's also a note in the code from ages back saying "additive loading is buggy as it duplicates existing strokes" - i can't seem to see any evidence of that but i haven't tried too hard

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:16 PM

i think even with bugs it's quite appealing. it might be "bearably buggy" and we can hide it behind a settings flag so normal users don't get tripped up by it

chard•11/19/21, 2:16 PM

I love reading all the little notes, it's like "this'd be a really cool feature if I ever got around to it"

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:16 PM

yeah. check out the comments in the .tilt file loader. it's practically a history of development quirks and decisions

Aandybak but there's also a note in the code from ages back saying "additive loading is b...

chard•11/19/21, 2:17 PM

It's tricky that there's no way to tell if it was fixed and then that note wasn't deleted

Cchard It's tricky that there's no way to tell if it was fixed and then that note wasn'...

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:18 PM

I tried a couple of ways to detect the extra strokes - but couldn't.

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:18 PM

they weren't there on export, didn't seem to be in the unity scene. but i might have done something dumb

Cchard I love reading all the little notes, it's like "this'd be a really cool feature ...

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:18 PM

Check out this page: https://blog.google/products/google-ar-vr/paint-friends-tilt-brushs-latest-prototype-creations/

kinda makes you sad to think this code existed at some point but we won't ever get to see it

Google

Paint with friends: Tilt Brush's latest prototype creations

Tilt Brush is better with friends. Our multiplayer prototype lets you share ideas, draw, and create with others.

chard•11/19/21, 2:19 PM

It's not a huge problem, as long as the merged thing has a unique parent in the hierarchy from the original

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:19 PM

I'd pay good money for a chance to look through the internal Google repo branches!

chard•11/19/21, 2:20 PM

Grouping and the breaking by colour tools in toolkit have been saving my life

chard•11/19/21, 2:20 PM

I just need something which breaks apart by individual strokes.
And one which resets the pivot of the group to the centroid, or the centroid + minimum bounds on the Y

Cchard I just need something which breaks apart by individual strokes. And one which r...

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:21 PM

i think someone did that once - i had a go at it and it didn't seem that hard

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:21 PM

(the split by strokes bit)

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:21 PM

there's one place in the code where it decides how to split meshes on export

Aandybak there's one place in the code where it decides how to split meshes on export

chard•11/19/21, 2:22 PM

Ye I was playing with that, didn't get around to split strokes though, if it exists I'll take it!

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:22 PM

do the exported meshes use submeshes? i guess not

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:22 PM

blender must have a "split mesh into non-connected parts" feature?

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:23 PM

at a certain point we have to accept we're not a mesh editing program and that "just use blender" is a valid workflow!

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:23 PM

especially as you can script/automate blender quite easily.

chard•11/19/21, 2:23 PM

Yeah it's very common among all 3d packages, just trying to not jump into blender every time because I'm also iterating on the original scenes

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:24 PM

someone wrote a cool unity extension that allowed you to call blender commands from within the unity editor

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:24 PM

it basically exported the mesh, called some blender python and reimported the mesh. it was quite extensible as well

andybakOP•11/19/21, 2:25 PM

https://github.com/anaseinea/Blendity

GitHub

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Ozymandias•11/26/21, 11:07 PM

If i export an object (eg an animal) piece by piece, but don’t move it, when I import all the pieces into unity, will they automatically reassemble themselves? As in they will be in the same position as when I exported them so i don’t have to try and reassemble them in unity (which I find too hard) - thank you!!

OOzymandias If i export an object (eg an animal) piece by piece, but don’t move it, when I i...

andybakOP•11/27/21, 12:26 AM

Why are you exporting piece by piece? Is it because you want to split the mesh in Unity? There might be better ways to do that.

Aandybak Why are you exporting piece by piece? Is it because you want to split the mesh i...

Ozymandias•11/27/21, 1:20 AM

i think so because otherwise i have to make sure i use diff brushes for all the different parts i wanna move? thanks

Ozymandias•11/27/21, 1:20 AM

ah ok

Ozymandias•11/27/21, 1:20 AM

so its not efficient basically

Ozymandias•11/27/21, 1:21 AM

what would be a better way pls? thank you!

OOzymandias what would be a better way pls? thank you!

andybakOP•11/27/21, 4:18 PM

hmmmm. we did do a bit of work on allow exports to split every stroke into a different mesh but it didn't get finished.