yeah its huge. I cant believe I suffered for so long. Everyone needs to know or this needs to be fi
yeah its huge. I cant believe I suffered for so long. Everyone needs to know or this needs to be fixed asap
Salso they need to fix the trimming response curvature for ffb users
SThanks, cant wait to try out Fino
JYeah, responded with a video to a topic discussing this on the forums, which up until now had been listed as "Solved".
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/313711-cyclic-stick-deflection-rate-slower-than-actual-joystick/?do=findComment&comment=5106427
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/313711-cyclic-stick-deflection-rate-slower-than-actual-joystick/?do=findComment&comment=5106427
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For example, when the actual joystick deflects from max left to max right quickly, the cyclic stick in game just deflects from max left to max right slowly, not fully synced to the actual joystick. Is it intended, can I get rid of it? I prefer that they are synced, could give more controllability.
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JYou might want to change the name, "input lag" is slightly different to the issue we're having here.
Sdone
JThanks for bringing this up, really hoping it gets sorted.
Ssame
JI can't really go back to center trim from unsprung, but I tried it quickly and it was indeed way easier to handle.
Sim sure a lot of other pilots are a victim of this bug without realizing
Ssorry I don't understand what you mean
Sare you using the "Joystick Without Springs and FFB" option?
JYes, I have a joystick that can be easily swapped between sprung and unsprung, and when flying helis I always go unsprung.
JSo the stick is almost never at the center.
JThe meaning was that I don't want to start using "center trim" option again, because I'd have to use springs while flying a helicopter. Really don't want that, so Apache is off the table for now.
RDoes this lag go away when you are holding the trim button while moving the cyclic?
Sno
Swouldn't you be able to just ignore the trim button and leave it unbound?
Sif the joystick is springless then means you don't even need trim at all and the center trim option works just fine without it.
Sunless your using spring pedals also with center trim
JThat works fine on something like the Huey, but the Apache's autopilot/stability augmentation system will be fighting you all the time. Sometimes you need to tell the autopilot "hey, this is the attitude and heading I want to be holding", and the only way to do that is with the trim button. The trim button is also the only way to reset the autopilot channels when they get saturated.
Syou dont have to use the trim up
Sjust trim left right and down
Strim up you can use for something else or leave it unbound. trim down resets the auto pilot, trim right engages alt hold and trim left engages att hold
TYou still need to trim for scas sleeve centering else you run out of authority quick
TSpecific for the Apache I should say
TIf you don’t the system will fight you, keeping the trimmer pressed doesn’t work either since that just puts it into rate damping not full scas authority within its band
TCan just bump trim it to keep the sleeve around your stick position
Ssorry I dont follow
TLook at the controls indicator box when flying the Apache
Syeah?
TThe lighter areas and the green cross
Syes
TThe green cross is your scas, the light area the authority it has
Sthe green cross is your center position yes?
Sfor trim
TNo
TIt’s what the scas channel is doing
Salright
TBasically if you move your stick out of that box the scas can’t do it’s job
TWhat trimming does is place the light square around your sticks position giving scas its control authority
Shmm, so your sayng that you are forced to trim if you want the helicopter to help you fly
TNo, it’s required to correctly fly the Apache, it’s built around the scas
Swhen your stick position moves outside the white square you need to bring the white square back in the area of your stick position by trimming
TThe scas is what keeps it stable, on the real bird, dcs the fm is kinda wonky atm
Swell thats annoyng
TIn general it’s always good to hit the trimmer when doing cyclic inputs
