so then that means that the other sliders basically dont do anything ?
so then that means that the other sliders basically dont do anything ?
Ssince the only effects I have ever felt from dcs have been spring and periodic only
Pso I'm still not 100% on all this, but from my understanding the Settings tab is the overall settings that the base will use ie. 75% of the spring power can be used by the game etc. then the Effects tab is for setting the strength of the periodic effects that happen.
Pflow chart from Walmis
Soh ok yeah it says gain settings
PI believe the gain setting is the overall "power" setting for the base, like the % of it's full power it can use?
Sthats master gain
Pplz don't quote me on any of this, I'm still very fresh at learning all this stuff lol
Sbut they are all gain, periodic effects gain, spring gain, friction gain etc
S
Pthanks, now my brain hurts. lol
Sno pain no gain
Pyou just killed me
Snp
Syou can flip that equation
Smultiply both sides by input
S(input)(Gain)=Output
Sinput is whatever strength signal dcs is sending then you multiply it by 1 if you want 100% gain and the output is the result of that
Sif you want half gain 50% then its input times 1/2
Pright, well I know who I'll be asking my questions to now
SI know this from electronics
Sbut I dont know anything about programing
Pwell I know almost nothing about electronics & even less about programing, so you're a few steps ahead of me
S
MHey maybe it's just my computer but I think it stutters dcs in VR every couple of seconds
MAhhhh I think it's just when I have the configuration program open
PThe way it works in DCS's:
- the game puts out mainly the Spring effect and Periodic effect (vibration during stalls, or damage to control surfaces, etc).
- The Spring effect in 'effects' tab gets over-ridden by DCS's in-game spring effect.
- The spring slider in "Settings" controls the overall strength of DCS's in-game spring effect. Adding "spring" effect from Effects doesn't do much on top of in-game spring effect, so I leave it off.
- DCS does not generate any inertia or damper signals, so those I add manually by enabling them in "effects" tab and then controlling their overall strength via sliders in Settings.
- I also ramped up the "spring strength proportional damping" to 100% (top right corner, under PSU power), it gives the in-game spring effect a nice balance, it's in addition to the damper 'effect'/slider.
- the game puts out mainly the Spring effect and Periodic effect (vibration during stalls, or damage to control surfaces, etc).
- The Spring effect in 'effects' tab gets over-ridden by DCS's in-game spring effect.
- The spring slider in "Settings" controls the overall strength of DCS's in-game spring effect. Adding "spring" effect from Effects doesn't do much on top of in-game spring effect, so I leave it off.
- DCS does not generate any inertia or damper signals, so those I add manually by enabling them in "effects" tab and then controlling their overall strength via sliders in Settings.
- I also ramped up the "spring strength proportional damping" to 100% (top right corner, under PSU power), it gives the in-game spring effect a nice balance, it's in addition to the damper 'effect'/slider.
MCan you send a pic of your effect settings?
MAnd the dampener one too?
MIs there a way to save different profiles for different aircraft?
MThink I need to change the stick centre position to stop the ka50 stick being so aggressively forward
Ppictures are above (yesterday), here's the link: 🧰support
- yes, you can save different profiles (using import/export buttons)
- stick center can be set via "FFB Axes Setup" on Settings tab (at the bottom). Essentially you set the stick new limits in X and Y via their min and max positions..
- yes, you can save different profiles (using import/export buttons)
- stick center can be set via "FFB Axes Setup" on Settings tab (at the bottom). Essentially you set the stick new limits in X and Y via their min and max positions..
MOh yeah I tried your setting but I guess I didn’t follow the effects tab
Sfor DIY kits, how do you wire up the e-stop on the rhino unit? it's not on the diagram (https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/990914366155149362) or do you just route the 12v power though it or a relay or something?
WI connected it inline with the 20VDC positive power wire from the power supply.
WHit the e-stop and the positive lead is disconnected
Pif this hasn't been answered, periodic effects are the shaking effects that the game sends to the device
SYes like square, sawtooth, triangle, sinewave
SIt said p effects so It wasnt clear right away what it referred to
SThanks, looks great
SDoes the vpforce software show the effects that the game is sending like the openffb software
WYes indeed, you can see it in action in my yt channel, mig-21 or ka-50 videos.
Pyes, they are shown in the "debug" tab once you start flying (won't show the effect if you're just sitting in the game menu's). To see it clearly disable all of the effects in "effects" tab (and make sure there are no loaded effects shows in the debug tab) and load the game. The debug window won't show anything at first, but once you get in to the cockpit the effect will show up in the debug tab, i think it loads the DCS Spring effect as ID:5 ..
PHey, just wondering with msfs2020 not supporting ffb natively will the VPforce software add effects itself, or do I need to add a program like XPForce?
WYeah, you will need XPforce for now
P"for now" ???? 
Wyeah, Asobo did not implement FFB support, so it's the best solution currently
POh sorry I got excited & thought you meant your software might be able to do it one day! Looks like I'll have to try XPForce. I wonder if it's any good?
WYeah, it's pretty good, there are some caveats though, like no force trim on helicopters. There's also one outstanding bug with the Rhino - the constant force direction is inverted with some XPforce effects. Due to be fixed soon.
Pahh ok, no force trim on heli's oh no! Any chance of a hardware force trim for VPforce software in the future? If that's even possible