This is my full source code. Even with 0,0,0,0 it still doesn't work 😦
This is my full source code. Even with 0,0,0,0 it still doesn't work 
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DSo what I want to appear is the square, but not the black background, that needs to be transparent, and I should be able to click through it - it should 'float' like a toast message "You have one new viewer" or something like it.
Ahm try setting
options.PreferredBitDepth to (8, 8, 8, 8)` (or more if you want, this is just for testing purposes)Dtrying now 
DYESSSSS that works - it's transparent!! Now, how do I enable Click-Through? 
AI don't believe click through is possible with glfw, potentially SDL, but you'll probably have best luck with using win32/x11/whatever directly (is click through even possible though??)
either way this is not something the silk window handles itself
either way this is not something the silk window handles itself
DClick-through is possible with glfw, lemme get the code that 'should' do it (if I could directly access the glfw component that is)
DDThat would typically allow Click through. But how do I set that glfw hint?
DI'm really keen on making it cross platform, so staying away from win32 / direct3d stuffs
Athis seems like it is a new feature in 3.4, but silk uses 3.3 currently (I don't believe 3.4 has even been fully released yet)
so once 3.4 releases silk will be updated to include this too.
can't say for certain whether or not the silk windowing will be updated to feature this, but it wouldn't take much to implement it, and if you wanted to you could submit a PR to have this added too.
for now though I don't think there's much that can be done
so once 3.4 releases silk will be updated to include this too.
can't say for certain whether or not the silk windowing will be updated to feature this, but it wouldn't take much to implement it, and if you wanted to you could submit a PR to have this added too.
for now though I don't think there's much that can be done
Aif you really wanted to you could manually replace the glfw files with ones for 3.4 and then find the integer value of
MOUSE_PASSTHROUGHOk that's unfortunate. So you mention SDL may be able to do it - is there an example/tutorial that draws a simple square in SDL where I can get this click-through, transparent window enabled? Just starting out with Silk.NET and really want to get this working. I'm trying to 'fail fast' based on the features I need, but I'd really like to 'succeed' as well
Aplus you'd have to write a custom glfw window I believe
DYe that was what I was trying to do, but wasn't sure - the documentation/tutorials are few and far between. But happy to test using SDL
Aseems like SDL does not support this
AI'm afraid you are pretty much out of luck on this one currently
DI like this option - how do I force a value into the window hint?
Ain theory you could do
glfw.WindowHint((WindowHintBool) IntValueOfMousePassthrough, true);I guess where I'm stuck is how do I 'inject' anything glfw into 'IWindow' object?
Aat that point you'd have to write your own windowing system though, I don't believe silk initializes glfw until you call
window.createAh that's what I was afraid of
Aaha, perfect
you can set it with ,
now it's just about getting the glfw handle itself from the window, which I have a suspicion is something you can actually do without resorting to reflection - but I'd have to check
you can set it with ,
glfwSetWindowAttribnow it's just about getting the glfw handle itself from the window, which I have a suspicion is something you can actually do without resorting to reflection - but I'd have to check
Ahmm, seemingly not but I'm not at a machine to test it out at the moment - however you can use reflection to get the internal
and if you can get that working then I wish you the best of luck because there's no guarantees that it will be happy with the fact that you've swapped 3.3 dlls with 3.4 (for example function signature changes could cause a lot of problems)
so don't expect this to work
GlfwGlfwWindowand if you can get that working then I wish you the best of luck because there's no guarantees that it will be happy with the fact that you've swapped 3.3 dlls with 3.4 (for example function signature changes could cause a lot of problems)
so don't expect this to work
DThe demo code below will allow me to setup the window borderless and transparent etc. And I'd be able to add the clickthrough if using 3.4 and setting that window hint, so that would all work. Now I'm wondering, how could I use that created window and somehow get all the goodness from Silk.NET like event handlers etc
https://ecode.dev/transparent-framebuffer-borderless-window-using-glfw/
https://ecode.dev/transparent-framebuffer-borderless-window-using-glfw/
The ecode.DEV repository
How to draw in OpenGL over a transparent window? Here your answer
DI'm happy to give it a try, fail fast using the 3.4 DLLs
DFYI - 3.3.8 seems to contain the mouse passthrough: https://github.com/glfw/glfw
does that mean I still need the 3.4 DLLs ?
does that mean I still need the 3.4 DLLs ?
GitHub
A multi-platform library for OpenGL, OpenGL ES, Vulkan, window and input - GitHub - glfw/glfw: A multi-platform library for OpenGL, OpenGL ES, Vulkan, window and input
DSo I guess the least question I have is:
How do I create an IWindow object, or 'reflect' it, from a GLFW constructed window?
How do I create an IWindow object, or 'reflect' it, from a GLFW constructed window?
H_window.Nativewait GL_QUADS are deprecated?
VYeah, everything that isn't made of triangles is deprecated
TLines and points say hi
Ldont use lines or points
Lthey are misleading at best
VHeh, I clearly remembered wrong then 
Forgot about lines and points
Forgot about lines and points
Lthey always got tesselated into triangles internally anyway
Lwhat was the point of quads
FIf is funny, because all modern 3d characters a made from quads, if use triangles we get artifacts on deformed skin, triangulated surface cant bend smoothly.
But anyway gpu converts those quads into triangles
But anyway gpu converts those quads into triangles
VQuads can't bend smoothly either, you're probably thinking of various curved surfaces which can be defined by a quad and the normal and/or tangent at various points, akin to splines
Ultimately the surface has to be triangulated, or the rendering engine needs to support those curved surfaces more directly
Modern GPUs only have rasterization hardware for triangles
Ultimately the surface has to be triangulated, or the rendering engine needs to support those curved surfaces more directly
Modern GPUs only have rasterization hardware for triangles
FI mean - when we model face in Blender or Maya, we never use triangles, beacase when face animated there will be visible “issues”. In old games with low poly character triangles were often used to reduce poligon count.
Dont know how it works on low level, maybe related to vertex transform calculations when game engine plays animations.
Dont know how it works on low level, maybe related to vertex transform calculations when game engine plays animations.
Hohhh i see
RThose are about as close as you can get to depreciation
RThat doesn't mean they don't get tessellated and smooth shading
RAny quad primitives you can make can be evaluated to two tris
MHello, I am working on a research project which is based on C#. We have to make some calculations with the use of Vulkan or OpenGL on compute shaders and we have nothing to render.
Before digging into the source code of Silk I'd like to know the following things...
a. is it possible to be integrated only for the use of compute shaders?
b. is it possible to load shaders that have already been compiled by the Vulkan CLI compiler?
Thank you for bringing such a cool lib to the opensource world.
Before digging into the source code of Silk I'd like to know the following things...
a. is it possible to be integrated only for the use of compute shaders?
b. is it possible to load shaders that have already been compiled by the Vulkan CLI compiler?
Thank you for bringing such a cool lib to the opensource world.
RYes yes
RBoth yes
RI think Vulkan is going to be your only option assuming you don't want a window. If you are fine with a window then they both work
Mno window at all
Mis there any api generated for such a task? or a repo with examples?
MThank you for your answers... BTW