Hello, I am working on a research project which is based on C#. We have to make some calculations wi

Hello, I am working on a research project which is based on C#. We have to make some calculations with the use of Vulkan or OpenGL on compute shaders and we have nothing to render.
Before digging into the source code of Silk I'd like to know the following things...

a. is it possible to be integrated only for the use of compute shaders?
b. is it possible to load shaders that have already been compiled by the Vulkan CLI compiler?

Thank you for bringing such a cool lib to the opensource world.

MMaslas Hello, I am working on a research project which is based on C#. We have to make ...

Redhacker2•1/10/23, 8:50 AM

Yes yes

Redhacker2•1/10/23, 8:50 AM

Both yes

Redhacker2•1/10/23, 8:51 AM

I think Vulkan is going to be your only option assuming you don't want a window. If you are fine with a window then they both work

MaslasOP•1/10/23, 8:51 AM

no window at all

MaslasOP•1/10/23, 8:52 AM

is there any api generated for such a task? or a repo with examples?

MaslasOP•1/10/23, 8:52 AM

Thank you for your answers... BTW

MMaslas is there any api generated for such a task? or a repo with examples?

Redhacker2•1/10/23, 8:52 AM

no specific API

Redhacker2•1/10/23, 8:52 AM

nor an example project

Redhacker2•1/10/23, 8:53 AM

that is endorsed by silk.net

MMaslas is there any api generated for such a task? or a repo with examples?

Lyris the Kitori•1/10/23, 8:53 AM

any normal vulkan or OpenGL tutorial does the job

Redhacker2•1/10/23, 8:54 AM

but yeah, once you get the init code down you should be done

Redhacker2•1/10/23, 8:54 AM

well you should be able to run the compute shader

MMaslas is there any api generated for such a task? or a repo with examples?

MaslasOP•1/10/23, 10:13 AM

Oh, I put it totally wrong. All I meant is, if there is any Documentation generated by the source code of Silk.net in order to have a look at it.

MaslasOP•1/10/23, 10:14 AM

But I got the picture, thanks for the answers both of you.

Kai•1/10/23, 11:11 AM

@.maslas feel free to ask anything here, I've done plenty of vulkan compute. The vulkan server is of course also very helpful discord.gg/vulkan

MMaslas Oh, I put it totally wrong. All I meant is, if there is any Documentation genera...

Hanprogramer•1/10/23, 12:09 PM

Silk doesn't have these things. I know, i was also looking for it. But basically you can just use any vulkan methods from C#, the only thing you'll need is for windowing and stuffs. Yesterday i made a tutorial on YT but it's for windowing and input. probably not what you need

flyke•1/10/23, 12:11 PM

Experienced people use Vulkan. Do I get any profit from learning Open GL? I started because GL looks simpler.

Aqua•1/10/23, 12:11 PM

I do have a port of vulkan-tutorialvulkan-tutorial implemented directly in silk if it helps at all.
Personally, if you just need to draw some stuff without a window, just use a hidden window with opengl.

Fflyke Experienced people use Vulkan. Do I get any profit from learning Open GL? I star...

Perksey•1/10/23, 12:12 PM

Vulkan is designed for AAA developers who have endless time & bottomless budgets to optimise the living hell out of their game engines

Perksey•1/10/23, 12:12 PM

OpenGL is a lot better to use for a hobby project, but it's also slowly withering away and there is no FOSS standard to replace it with equivalent ease-of-use yet

flyke•1/10/23, 12:13 PM

So if I want to make small home projects with 3d or 2d, GL is sufficient? No need to worry about Vulkan?

Perksey•1/10/23, 12:13 PM

yep! GL will be around for a long time, and makes your life easier.

flyke•1/10/23, 1:09 PM

Do we have window event “OnResize”? To recalculate UI positions on screen.

Fflyke Do we have window event “OnResize”? To recalculate UI positions on screen.🤔

Perksey•1/10/23, 1:17 PM

yes there's a Resize and FramebufferResize event

Perksey•1/10/23, 1:17 PM

they are used in the examples

Perksey•1/10/23, 1:18 PM

you should pretty much always prefer the latter, as that refers to the scaled size

Perksey•1/10/23, 1:18 PM

e.g. you could have a 500x500 window size, but its actual render resolution could be 1000x1000 (you see this most frequently on retina displays)

flyke•1/10/23, 1:54 PM

Thanks for tips, so we should use not real pixels, but "resolution" pixels from "Framebuffer".

PPerksey OpenGL is a lot better to use for a hobby project, but it's also slowly witherin...

Kai•1/10/23, 2:00 PM

I think the expectation is that libraries built on vulkan / DX12 will slowly replace OpenGL. Plus translation layers ofc

Perksey•1/10/23, 2:01 PM

yeah

Perksey•1/10/23, 2:01 PM

i've been waiting for something like a high-level wrapper that is more akin to OpenGL (but Vulkan-style rather than with this horrible state machine bind crap) to come out for Vulkan

Perksey•1/10/23, 2:01 PM

back when i had motivation i was originally going to make my own called Hulkan