VPforce Controls•3y ago

What will be the Price?

DDeltaVJ What will be the Price?

walmis•1/16/23, 7:45 PM

It's 35EUR

DeltaVJOP•1/16/23, 7:47 PM

Thx

ddrake1984•1/16/23, 8:48 PM

@walmis is it going to be easy/trivial to switch between vkb connector and winwing connector? Or will it require surgery to the base?

Ye Old Grog•1/16/23, 9:33 PM

The VKB connector just mounts in between the base and the grip, like an extension.
I don't know about the winwimg one

ddrake1984•1/16/23, 10:33 PM

If they just connect to the existing base connector thats excellent, also, is there a way to get this connector in metal? I swap grips alot and plastic will just detereorate quickly, did I mention I swap alot

Dddrake1984 If they just connect to the existing base connector thats excellent, also, is th...

walmis•1/17/23, 7:00 AM

Yep, the WW adapter just plugs into the existing connector on the base.

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 7:02 AM

awesome, that's really good to hear, but is there a way to get the connector into metal? just because plastic is brittle and the amount of times I switch connectors is obscene

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:05 AM

!status

CCraptakulaR !status

VPforceBot•1/17/23, 7:05 AM

Hey @craptakularuk,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0036 on 2023-01-12
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 102 days, median is 110 days, max is 183 days
34 Rhinos are shipped in total

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:06 AM

I am moving up the list! Just 210 Rhino's to go!

Dddrake1984 awesome, that's really good to hear, but is there a way to get the connector int...

walmis•1/17/23, 7:13 AM

The good thing is those parts are easily replaceable, on the other hand metal I agree, is desirable, just haven't figured out how realize them without introducing significant cost yet. CNCing them would be quite expensive I believe. I imagine WW adapter would cost 100€ instead of 35€ in that case

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 7:14 AM

Oh yeah, it would be expensive, let me know if it’s something you would consider

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:16 AM

When my order is eventually built. I will have the opportunity to order a monster.tech plate?

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:16 AM

I did not add any options to the initial google pre-order form

CCraptakulaR When my order is eventually built. I will have the opportunity to order a monste...

walmis•1/17/23, 7:30 AM

Sure. I use the preorder form to gauge how much stuff I will need in advance

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:31 AM

Thanks, There are 210 Rhino orders before me. Do you think I will get one winter 2023 or early 2024?

CraptakulaR•1/17/23, 7:32 AM

Only asking as still using a Thurstmaster 1600m cheap joystick and do not really want to order a better interim joystick if my Rhino order is only a few months away... but if it is 12 mmonths or more I may have to as I need more buttons

Wwalmis The good thing is those parts are easily replaceable, on the other hand metal I ...

Vulcan•1/17/23, 7:37 AM

Is it easy to disassemble the winwing adapter and solder on some wires if we want to try to integrate it into a metal extension or is it sealed up tight?

VVulcan Is it easy to disassemble the winwing adapter and solder on some wires if we wan...

walmis•1/17/23, 7:37 AM

I can sell only a PCB too

walmis•1/17/23, 7:39 AM

the finished adapter core is like a capsule of two connectors with the PCB in between, 5 pin male on one end, 6pin female on the other

walmis•1/17/23, 7:44 AM

overall it looks like this, with two clamping rings

FlatSpin•1/17/23, 7:47 AM

@craptakularuk he has stated he'd like to produce around 100 units per year (do the math) unless he's able to ramp up production in the future.

Wwalmis the finished adapter core is like a capsule of two connectors with the PCB in be...

TrigaNZ•1/17/23, 9:15 AM

So it will work with the WW extension?

TrigaNZ•1/17/23, 9:19 AM

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 9:42 AM

Yeah, the bottom part

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 9:43 AM

Im just worried with costant grip changes, metal beats plastic and will start to dissintegrate it

ddrake1984•1/17/23, 9:43 AM

If you accidentaly missthread it, consider the plastic ruined

TTrigaNZ Click to see attachment

walmis•1/17/23, 10:31 AM

You could extend either the TM end or WW end, both options would work

walmis•1/17/23, 2:05 PM

Hey guys, a little bit of good news! Currently working from home and made a proof of concept Python framework/app based on SimShaker telemetry that will allow to easily work with telemetry based effects per aircraft/aircraft class. Planning to release it open source on github

leninjahd•1/17/23, 2:46 PM

Is the VPForce Configurator Open Source?

Lleninjahd Is the VPForce Configurator Open Source?

walmis•1/17/23, 2:49 PM

leninjahd•1/17/23, 2:57 PM

Oh okay

Wwalmis No

leninjahd•1/17/23, 2:58 PM

are there plans on making it open source?

walmis•1/17/23, 3:03 PM

Nope, it's very tightly integrated with the firmware anyways

Wwalmis Nope, it's very tightly integrated with the firmware anyways

leninjahd•1/17/23, 3:35 PM

Okay, I wanted to try to code a slave feature

walmis•1/17/23, 3:38 PM

You don't need that configurator app, It doesn't do any actual FFB

walmis•1/17/23, 3:39 PM

The quick start to FFB is with SDL2 library: https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL2/CategoryForceFeedback

SDL2/CategoryForceFeedback

The Simple Directmedia Layer Wiki

walmis•1/17/23, 3:40 PM

which I'm using now to build the telemetry effects

Wwalmis The quick start to FFB is with SDL2 library: https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL2/Catego...

leninjahd•1/17/23, 4:14 PM

So i could write a program which takes the inputs from rhino A and sends them as effects to rhino B?

walmis•1/17/23, 4:16 PM

yep

leninjahd•1/17/23, 4:32 PM

Alright, just need to learn C

walmis•1/17/23, 4:32 PM

No need, SDL has bindings for most languages

walmis•1/17/23, 4:33 PM

fastest way is using python: pip install pysdl2 pysdl2-dllpip install pysdl2 pysdl2-dll and ready to go

Wwalmis fastest way is using python: `pip install pysdl2 pysdl2-dll` and ready to go 🙂

leninjahd•1/17/23, 4:41 PM

Alright, ill try to code something

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:01 PM

@walmis It cant seem to find the stick

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:01 PM

walmis•1/17/23, 5:09 PM

Try this:

def find_haptic_joystick():
    for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()):
        joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i)
        try:
            if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy):
                logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}")
                break
        finally:
            SDL_JoystickClose(joy)
    return i

def find_haptic_joystick():
    for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()):
        joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i)
        try:
            if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy):
                logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}")
                break
        finally:
            SDL_JoystickClose(joy)
    return i

walmis•1/17/23, 5:11 PM

also tune down master gain when testing untested FFB code to avoid breaking something

Wwalmis Try this: ``` def find_haptic_joystick(): for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks...

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:15 PM

its not finding anything

leninjahd•1/17/23, 5:15 PM

but windows Finds the joystick

def find_haptic_joystick(): for i in range(0, SDL_NumJoysticks()): joy = SDL_JoystickOpen(i) try: if SDL_JoystickIsHaptic(joy): logging.info(f"Found FFB: {SDL_JoystickName(joy)} index {i}") break finally: SDL_JoystickClose(joy) return i

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