The Huey force trim feels arguably better than the Apache. It holds firm, and there's a definite relaxation and re-grip when you disable it. Maybe the Apache isn't fully fleshed yet, or maybe that's how it's supposed to feel.
the apache works well. Pressing the trim release removes all force from the stick and releasing the button rengages the forces. However, it tends to want to move further in the direction it was displaced rather than staying exactly where you put it. The huey does the opposite, releasing the trim button forces the stick back to center. And both of these abnormalities occur when DCS is set to FFB without springs in the special options tab.
there is an issue with apache ffb without springs and trim without spring options. if you use those you will notice a ton of lag on the control. if you use the regular option ffb still works how it should and there is no lag
@swiftvengeance @skypickle Hey guys, I was just flying the Huey 2 nights ago & the force trim was working for me. Well as far as I know it was working right, it was going 'loose' when I held in the force trim button (only bound in DCS not VPforce config app) then when I moved the stick to desired position & released the trim button the stick would then hold in place. I did try the Blackhawk mod with & without the VPforce config app force trim buttons bound to my mcgu via the loopback app & that didn't work. I can jump on DCS soon to see what we're doing differently or if it still works for me.
"I did try the Blackhawk mod with & without the VPforce config app force trim buttons bound to my mcgu via the loopback app & that didn't work" in my comment above
Reading through forum posts gives the impression that the special mode should say "sticks without springs and without ffb". I, too, confused it for an ffb-specific mode at first.
For me the Huey works as intended. With FFB sticks use “default” as trimmer mode. The “stick without springs and FFB” mode was created for folks who don’t have FFB and a non-centering stick as Asdforce stated above.
Hey @dirty0519 (from xsimulator.net?) These are the 10:1 gearboxes i'm using on my WIP rig. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801124644081.html10:1, 8mm input I have hardstops for 30deg total travel, and when the system is switched on i feel no cogging or backlash, and by turning up 'natural dampening compensation' a little in the configurator it negates the inertia of all the spinning components. it feels wonderful on the test bench, can't wait to use for real.
Weird issue: vpforce configurator stopped recognizing the rhino today. The stick works well in dcs, windows usb control panel sees it and recognizes it.