IL2 is way better at FFB than DCS-which is buggy for helicopters at least
IL2 is way better at FFB than DCS-which is buggy for helicopters at least
SI use curves on IL2 - the little sensitivity thing in the key settings
SAnd now that it has per airframe settings it's much more friendly to flying different airframes without rebinding nonsense- always an arduous chore
Pit's nothing to do with sensitivity and everything to do with a poor fm.
Pthat's a very strange comparison.
Syeah after trying il2 last night I can agree there is something strange with the way things feel
Sand the ffb wasnt too great. In dcs when your pulling too hard the shaking feels precise and sharp but in il2 I almost couldn't feel it. And I had all the shaking set to 100% while in dcs I have to lower it down because its too strong.
Swhat bug did encounter in dcs?
RThere’s no chance of getting an 04 for pitch and a smaller motor for roll in a hardware kit is there? Do the two motors need to be matched?
Sthere's only 1 entry for amperage to the motors in the configurator per motor pair. i suppose you could get 2 separate driver boards and accomplish the different settings that way. walmis would know for sure. might depend on the game, if its smart enough to send pitch and roll to 2 devices. xpforce can do it for msfs, i have a 2nd board with a big motor for rudder.
RI suspected it was global not per channel but figured I’d ask. For packaging in a yoke particularly a smaller Roll would be handy.
Sreleasing the trim button does not result in the stick staying where i put it. In the huey it moves back to the center. REgardless of the option i choose in the special settings in dcs
SIt seems to be a weird problem you got there. I have been trying to reproduce your problem but no luck. Do you happen to have forced effect on for spring effect in VPForce configurator? That option stops the force trim from working. Does the stick become loose if you hold the trimmer button pressed or is the centering spring force active also when the trimmer is held down? Earlier you mentioned that you had trouble with the Apache trimmer also. Have you got that fixed?
SCould you send a picture of your VPForce effects and settings tabs? Got to go to sleep now but I’ll check those tomorrow and see if I can help fix the problem.
SIt worked for me. Set the special settings to default.
Si uploaded my vpconf file in support. only thing s enabled are spring, inertia, damper and friction. no force checkboxes are checked. stick becomes loose when trimmer is pressed. default setting in special tab gives similar results to the 'center' setting.
DRHINO arrived just now, but the unboxing will have to wait until Sunday
SSOLVED. Curves on the axes in DCS messes up the way the Rhino interprets trim. Thing is, I like curves. on my stick and on my women
Seliminating curves allows the huey cyclic to respond to trim appropriately. I wish there was a way to have curves for those precision moments. Ideally, there would be a button which could rescale axes on the rhino-but I think that's planned for a future release
PYeah this is a bug that's been around since at least 2017 if not longer. Apparently the 109 trim should be at like 86% for normal flight but as you pointed out you need full trim plus some stick input. The FFB community being so small these days I guess we're not at the top of the list for fixes
PThat's a pity, luckily I play with zero curves so that will save me some headache for once, looks like 
Soh yeah I noticed that too and I brought this issue to attention a few times. Didn't realize you were talking about this because you said it went back to center. My solution to this is to use full length extension so I get all the precision I need.
SHoly shit shipping was fast! Didn't even stop at customs. It'll be here in a couple of hours 
Pyup, having curves on FFB axis in DCS f^$s everything up by moving the spring center forward, it's the same story with ww2 fighters, jets, etc. DCS isn't acknowledging it and until more of us complain they won't do jack shit. I was secretly hoping walmis could introduce an FFB axis curve sensitivity feature, however judging by the amount of work he must do it doesn't look feasible. Someone suggested using vJoy and doing virtual axis curves but it seems too complicated and I just don't trust all that virtual axis stuff...
WI'll probably do this in the release after the next one.
SInterestingly, curves on the apache controls has an almost minimal impact. So it must be unique to every airframe
S@walmis top tier packaging!! Thank you so much, and for the included usb cable 
SYea, walmis reminds me of how the US was in the early 20th century- clever, able individuals who made things like electric light bulbs, automobiles, airplanes, motors, etc. Supporting people like him is only possible through the magic of the internet. But im sure he knows other people like himself who can make similar advances- force feedback rudder pedals, dcs interfaces to real world drones, unifying software, chatGPT addons for realistic comms, etc.
JAt that point we're just doing eagle dynamics job for them
Papache is a brand new module, I feel they may have done something specific for it. As far as ww2 modules the curve on any of them moves the ffb center forward the same way, however there's a difference in trim behavior making it look like they have 'unique' issues..
Ain the end if the job gets done I'm ok with it whoever does it
SCorrect me if I'm wrong (I've yet to set up the rhino, have to wait for work to stop bugging me), but I was under the impression that curves were unneeded on a FFB stick? When I'd use the msffb2, I think I ran into this centering issue with warbirds, I had curves set for my other bases. But after removing, it felt like the curves were unnecessary compared to spring bases? But maybe I'm missing something in regards to the feeling
Pyou rock, @walmis ! 
All I can do for you is to continue advertising your awesome product bringing you more business!
All I can do for you is to continue advertising your awesome product bringing you more business!
Pwell, there's still a sensitivity issue with the axis themselves, regardless if it's FFB or springed. On Mosquito for example the real-life stick is very long and without curves Mossie is extremely twitchy in pitch axis, with the spring joystick I had to apply a curve of 40 to get it in to a comfort zone, same goes for P47, albeit it needs much less curve. With the german fighters no curves needed, the real-life stick length is more or less comparable to our joysticks.
AThe feel of an FFB stick is nicer than springs for me, but I think the sensitivity is more about the length and throw of the controller
Pyes, but to replicate mosquito's length you need it at 120cm or something..
SAh I understand now! Especially since my msffb 2 extension is 500mm
TAre you in NZ?
SNope, just a new yorker who really like kakapos and humps everything like one
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RI mean, that’s literally their business model.
Foooh, I really like the webusb approach to the basic configuration. Better than most joystick testers and firmware updaters and honestly most windows UI frameworks suck.
and honestly most windows UI frameworks suck.
TAmen to that brother
W!status
VHey @warwolf09,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0058 on 2023-02-22
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 139 days, median is 156 days, max is 209 days
55 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0058 on 2023-02-22
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 139 days, median is 156 days, max is 209 days
55 Rhinos are shipped in total
LThis is what I made to cope with Rhino's throw. I hope someone gets some ideas / learns from my mistakes Not 100% sure the stick will not hit my chair. The front panel (seen in the back) support is hinged and its upper edge leans on the edge of the table like it used to. Blue marks the position of my old stick mount.
Not 100% sure the stick will not hit my chair. The front panel (seen in the back) support is hinged and its upper edge leans on the edge of the table like it used to. Blue marks the position of my old stick mount.
MLooks like a sensible jig for this purpose but I still limiting the range of motion to be in line with real aircraft with long sticks is still the better solution. You can adjust the throws in the software, but you could also modify the gate the shaft passes through on the top of the base to physically confine it to a suitable throw. Displacement of grip travel is what it's based on... long shaft + short throw to achieve the same distance as short shaft+long throw.
UThats a pretty serious piece of kit on the far right there!!
LMy throttle pedestal? Thanks, though its throttles are mediocre at best...I can land on a carrier most of the time but visiting a tanker remains a dream.
SAnyone planning on 3D printing and wiring their own custom grips for the rhino?
JYou mean like that?
