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RHere is my take on the gimbal. It's very similar to @thoatse 's version. https://youtu.be/JGP4gw0xRF8 Currently it's a 160mm^3 cube. Excuse the drafty mockup. It will be printed with combination of PLA and Nylon-CF for prototyping and once everything is set, I will make a sheet metal version.
MNice! Sorry on my late reply but that seems to have spurred your own design process. Cool to see more stabs at minimizing size, applying the same tricks sff computers do to keep them cool and quiet as well (like 1 big fan being better than 2 small ones). I have been polishing up the final details on my rework. Externally looks close but internally completely different. Finalized and placed my order for the metal parts, ranging from 1mm to 10mm thick stainless and have had bearings and other bits showing up daily for a while now.
In the process of building my initial first 5 to evaluate best best bearing solutions (plastic sleeve vs oiless metal sleeve vs needle vs maybe some ball types) and to validate design/feasibility. My plan is to offer them as kits to accompany walmis's kit.
In the process of building my initial first 5 to evaluate best best bearing solutions (plastic sleeve vs oiless metal sleeve vs needle vs maybe some ball types) and to validate design/feasibility. My plan is to offer them as kits to accompany walmis's kit.
RNice! I'd love to know what you end up with the bearings situation. Currently I am using mounted bearings from Bilda. They are little bulky, but I am not sure how online fabricators like sendcutsend deal with pressfit applications, so for now I am just using off the shelf parts. What's the thickness of the belt you are using? I am going with 15mm HTD, but I am wondering if I can get by 10mm. I probably will release the files if everything works out.
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MFor pressfits the trick is not to rely on fab houses like scs to do them.. order parts with slightly undersize holes and use a drill press+reamers to bring them up. They can do finish work like that but it adds cost just like having them tap/chamfer etc. They may need to be over or udersize to work since bearings will vary a tiny bit by batch (plus ones like Igus has need undersize holes to preload them into tolerance) so best to do that part yourself and design accordingly. Drill press is useful if willing to buy the range of reamers you need. Pressing bearings in prints is easier cause you can adjust the printed holes till they work. I'll be posting my bearing findings for sure.
I'm using 5mm pitch/9mm width Powergate GT3 belts, starting with Gates branded ones to set the benchmark, will see if off brand ones compare. Using closed loop belt for now, might switch to open loop since the big pulley doesn't make a full rotation it can be fixed somewhere along the dia. You should be fine with 10mm HTD, the forces involved in these bases are low by their normal standards.
I'm using 5mm pitch/9mm width Powergate GT3 belts, starting with Gates branded ones to set the benchmark, will see if off brand ones compare. Using closed loop belt for now, might switch to open loop since the big pulley doesn't make a full rotation it can be fixed somewhere along the dia. You should be fine with 10mm HTD, the forces involved in these bases are low by their normal standards.
MYes. Form factor-wise it shares the same architecture as the MSFFII.
MObviously with belts instead of gears but the gimbals mechanics are the same
KI hate to ask but I have to...
Has anyone here done a head to head comparison between their Rhino and the Virpil CM3?
I know it's apples and oranges, but I am mostly curious from a precision perspective.
Is the rhino as precise?
I mainly fly the harrier with a squadron. Will my a/a refueling abilities be hampered by the rhino?
I currently run the cm3 center mounted with a 200mm extension...
Has anyone here done a head to head comparison between their Rhino and the Virpil CM3?
I know it's apples and oranges, but I am mostly curious from a precision perspective.
Is the rhino as precise?
I mainly fly the harrier with a squadron. Will my a/a refueling abilities be hampered by the rhino?
I currently run the cm3 center mounted with a 200mm extension...
DI don’t have the harrier, but I can refuel with the f18
DImo, its more throttle jockying that plays a bigger part
KFair. What did you upgrade from Ddrake?
DI have all the bases, VKB Gladiator, Gunfighter, WinWing Orion 1, 2, Virpil MongoosT-50 and CM3
KWow
KI'm assuming the rhino is your new fav?
MRhino is pointless on the harrier
They haven't done any force feedback
Not even q feel
Mig 29 on the other hand is fire
They haven't done any force feedback
Not even q feel
Mig 29 on the other hand is fire
DYes sir, it is my favourite at the moment
KAwesome, thanks!
KI do fly other aircraft.. just main the harrier
KSo I guess it'll just behave like a regular spring centered stick
DSame issue with FFB on 18 @magpiee unless they updated in last patch?
KHopefully more airframes will get ffb support in the future
KThose without just function like a normal center spring stick I assume?
MNo the f18 is FBW
DYeah, latest update added FFB for F1
MAre we talking about the F1 or f18?
Afor me the rhino is the absolute favorite for now
AFFB or not
Aeven without FFB the mechanism creates a solid, non-springy feel compared to the regular sticks
GI agree. I am enjoying the Fulcrum even more with the Rhino.
AWhat does the 29 offer in terms of FFB?
Aand is it with the telemffb or out of the box?
GThe telemffb. Out of box it was only giving me trim and stall.
GWith the app I am loving it. I had no idea before when using the winwing base when I was turning too much and bleeding energy. Now I can tell and also how the spring tension changes with the speed is also great. I know when I need to slow down when I am conducting ground attacks for example.
MOut of the box is great
The trim at high speed is so pronounced it makes it fun to go fast
Try the auto level autopilot
And the in override stick limiter
The trim at high speed is so pronounced it makes it fun to go fast
Try the auto level autopilot
And the in override stick limiter
GGood you mentioned it I noticed my stick limiter override is not working, and I thought it was me not noticing the changes. I will re check that.
GThe autopilot at high speeds gets the grip moving forward and backward so much I fly manually when high and fast.
RThanks! I will go with the 9mm HTD belts. That should be able to bring the width of the gimbal to 150mm!
R@walmis - I am about to order the 2x57BLF03+usb kit. I noticed that a WinWing adapter is offered. Is that a mechanical adapter just like the VKB one? As in, I would have to use the board from WW's gimbal right?
MYeah I think it's just to relevel it if the pilot gets spacially disorientated
But its a cool gimmick to feel the stick move with the ap
But its a cool gimmick to feel the stick move with the ap
MWhat effects does the telem app add? I haven't installed it yet
AI might be wrong but IIRC the winwing adapter doesn't need anything extra to work
DBoth
DJust select the grip and its g2g
Sorry @recoilfx
Sorry @recoilfx
GI don't understant much of this but I believe are Angle of attack, runway texture, weapons release, cannon, stall, weapons being installed during rearming and others I can't remember now. I don't remember landing gear transitions though. But they are incredible.
MSounds great. I'm really hoping some software wizard can sync these features up with a buttkickr from the same app
RReally? Like analog axis on the grip is working too? Including the extra side module that adds extra hats and mini stick? Is the adapter a PCB or just aluminum pipe with threads that connect the WW grip to the Rhino base?
AI haven't tested it myself, but from what I recall Walmis managed to read signals from the grip and make it work directly
AAs for the level of functionality I really don't know, someone more knowledgeable needs to step in with the details
AThe WW adapter has electronic connection with the base, VKB adapter has an external lead to the black box