is this the adapter sold by winwing or is there another one? also would you recommend getting an ext

is this the adapter sold by winwing or is there another one?
also would you recommend getting an extension for the F16 grip?

Kkuliner is this the adapter sold by winwing or is there another one? also would you reco...

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:15 PM

The adapters for VKB/WW grips for the Rhino are made by VPforce

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:15 PM

flying the f16 irl is done with a force sensing side stick that only moves like 5mm in X/Y axis, ww sells these & you don't use an extension with those, well not typically from what I know & def not in the f16 irl. Those WW f16 grips & Moveable Force Sensing Stick Base, MFSSB are perfect for emulating the f16 controls but the mffsb is probably not the best choice to get for an 'all round' base, though the Rhino is perfect for that job imo cause you can tweak it so much + do things like force trim in heli's etc.

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:17 PM

If you fly warbirds or helicopters then imho the Rhino is awesome & so much fun, plus for more modern jets it's just as useful & fun due to the ability to make separate config files for each aircraft in the Rhino software. What do you typically fly?

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:21 PM

as far as 'all round' grips go, this depends but honestly either the VKB MCGU or the Virpil version, or the WW F-16 grip, it has slightly more axis or buttons, but only with the adapter, also if you fly or are interested in the A-10 it's later model like the DCS full fidelity module also uses the same F-16 style grip, but center mounted & on a extension

kulinerOP•4/5/23, 1:29 PM

i mean i allready have the winwing orion base and stick, flying lots of diferent modules, lots of choppers tho.
As my Rhino getting closer to shipping i was wondering if an extension is necessary or nah

Kkuliner i mean i allready have the winwing orion base and stick, flying lots of diferent...

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:30 PM

oh if you want to fly choppers & not just the f16 too then an extension cam be pretty useful

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:31 PM

the Rhino kinda has a built in extension cause how it's gimbal is, but still depending on your mounting etc. even a 100mm extension could be good

kulinerOP•4/5/23, 1:32 PM

i c thanks

kulinerOP•4/5/23, 1:32 PM

and what about the adaptor? is it the one wrom winwing?

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:32 PM

you may find when it's mounted & with the amount of throw it's axis have you may not need one, or just a smaller one, sorry I can't give a yes or no

Kkuliner and what about the adaptor? is it the one wrom winwing?

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:33 PM

nah the adapter to get the WW grip to work on the Rhino base is from Walmis/VPforce

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:33 PM

so order here

kulinerOP•4/5/23, 1:33 PM

ah perfect

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:33 PM

well ask here

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:34 PM

sorry for wall of text, but a lot of good points about the Rhino

PiNKSH!T•4/5/23, 1:34 PM

cya m8, getting late for me

kulinerOP•4/5/23, 1:34 PM

nah man i appreciate it

TrigaNZ•4/5/23, 6:27 PM

I have the WW F-16 grip. I decided not to use the extension after a bit of testing. The Rhino plus the adapter plus grip is enough for my setup. The extension makes the throws very big.

Warwolf09•4/5/23, 10:58 PM

!status

WWarwolf09 !status

VPforceBot•4/5/23, 10:58 PM

Hey @warwolf09,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0074 on 2023-04-05
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 149 days, median is 183 days, max is 214 days
73 Rhinos are shipped in total

Magpie•4/6/23, 1:10 AM

A10 uses the F16 grip on an extension...

MMagpie A10 uses the F16 grip on an extension...

mechsicko•4/6/23, 3:51 AM

Not the same grip but close, A10 is derived from it. F-16 grip has a pinky paddle and a 13deg termination at the base. Real Warthog grip has no pinky paddle and the bottom terminates flat. They also have different DMS castles.

F-16 being a sidestick and needs the forward tilt for ergonomy. A10 is a center stick and the grip can't smack the panel that needs to be in pilot reach. Pics directly from Essex.

Magpie•4/6/23, 4:00 AM

Noice

VPforceBot•4/6/23, 8:59 AM

:package:

RHINO #0073 Has Shipped!

Any_Time_Baby•4/6/23, 10:43 AM

Hi guys , how can I order that ?

AAny_Time_Baby Hi guys , how can I order that ?

Spatz•4/6/23, 11:07 AM

Check the #

faq

VVPforceBot Hey @warwolf09, So the last Shipped RHINO is **#0074** on **2023-04-05** Average...

audax•4/6/23, 1:51 PM

Oh, that's faster than I thought. I just preordered the base and I expected a waiting time of 10-15 months.

audax•4/6/23, 1:53 PM

Ouch, I just noticed I gave the wrong mail address, had a typo.

audax•4/6/23, 1:54 PM

Hopefully a DM is the correct way to solve this

audax•4/6/23, 2:09 PM

It was the right way.

Kkuliner and what about the adaptor? is it the one wrom winwing?

GarrafaBr•4/6/23, 2:23 PM

I hope this helps you have an idea of the height with the winwing adaptor (when the Rhino is ready for shipping you can order the adaptor). The adaptor can be seen as these 2 "rotative clamps".

kulinerOP•4/6/23, 2:27 PM

yes! this is perfect thanks

Troll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴•4/6/23, 2:58 PM

Apologies if this already has been answered, but finding old info isn’t that easy on Discord

How is the gimbal angle/stick deflection sensed? Is it the position of the FFB motor axis or do one need potentiometers for this?

TTroll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴Apologies if this already has been answered, but finding old info isn’t that eas...

PiNKSH!T•4/6/23, 3:11 PM

Hey m8, the motors have encoders inside them from my understanding

PPiNKSH!T Hey m8, the motors have encoders inside them from my understanding

walmis•4/6/23, 3:38 PM

Yep, that's correct. No other axis sensing is required, which simplifies design a lot

Troll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴•4/6/23, 3:57 PM

Thanks! That’s what I thought. I have ordered a DIY kit…

Graywo1f•4/6/23, 7:41 PM

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Tenor

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Naudiz•4/6/23, 9:11 PM

Oh my, it's a celebrity

legobirds•4/7/23, 3:00 AM

Does Rhino support DX FFB?

Llegobirds Does Rhino support DX FFB?

walmis•4/7/23, 4:04 AM

Of course

Troll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴•4/7/23, 6:40 AM

Are there any drawings or measurments of the FFB motors?
Anybody got a good source for timing belts and pulleys?

TTroll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴Are there any drawings or measurments of the FFB motors? Anybody got a good sour...

mechsicko•4/7/23, 6:45 AM

There are, I also modeled them and have them as Fusion or step files if you need. Belts picked up through Beidler's Belts (Gates GT tooth, 5mm pitch... HTD belts are more common), small pulleys you can find on Amazon/Aliexpress etc and big ones you can print. I just posted some pics in the showcase channel of the small form factor version (150mm cube) I'm developing into kits to offer to go with walmis's kits.

Mmechsicko There are, I also modeled them and have them as Fusion or step files if you need...

Troll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴•4/7/23, 7:02 AM

I have ordered the 86BLF04 motors. If you have STP files of those, that would be really helpful!

mechsicko•4/7/23, 7:20 AM

No I modeled the 57xxx motors. I am working on a kit for the bigger motors but for now am using a generic modeled Nema34 that's 95mm long I found on GrabCAD for free. At some point I'll model the driver segment walmis adds to them but this is the one I think https://grabcad.com/library/stepper-motor-nema-34-3

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walmis•4/7/23, 7:22 AM

Yeah, it's basically standard NEMA34

walmis•4/7/23, 7:22 AM

j5bit•4/8/23, 12:10 AM

VPForce Invoice -- I've never been so keen to pay the man. I'm really excited

oncentreline•4/8/23, 11:48 AM

Hi All,
I’m thinking of placing an order in the next few days but before I do, can someone provide some idea of how ‘smooth’ the force feedback/range of joystick motion is? For those that have tried FFB steering wheels, is the Rhino more like a Fanatec direct drive wheel or like the Logitech G920?
Thanks!

Ooncentreline Hi All, I’m thinking of placing an order in the next few days but before I do, c...

recoilfx•4/8/23, 12:05 PM

Haven't tried the DD steer wheels, but I have had experiences with MSFFB2 and Logitech G940. Rhino's motor are SMOOTH. You are not going to notice the cogging.

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