I thought Durham made a post earlier saying this problem went away if he removed the extension. Did

I thought Durham made a post earlier saying this problem went away if he removed the extension. Did I imagine that?
If true, it sounds like it's a wiring issue in the extension.

Ye Old GrogOP•4/23/23, 8:27 AM

Here it is
"Ok - removed the 20cm extension and now no errant button pushes, so ready to go into dcs and see if I can set up force trim in the apache"

skyPickle•4/23/23, 2:16 PM

I asked a long time ago how to configure the port so that the Rhino plays nicely with other devices like simracing studio (uses port 4321) and simshaker (uses port 29373). Unfortunately, This discord does not seem to make searching easy. Is there a way for me to search for all my posts here?

skyPickle•4/23/23, 2:17 PM

I can only find two of my posts from Feb 2023

SskyPickle I asked a long time ago how to configure the port so that the Rhino plays nicely...

PiNKSH!T•4/23/23, 2:17 PM

the search up in top right corner you can search by user

skyPickle•4/23/23, 2:18 PM

even when i click 'old' it only shows me two posts

PiNKSH!T•4/23/23, 2:18 PM

ahh ok, sorry then m8 that was my big idea

SskyPickle I asked a long time ago how to configure the port so that the Rhino plays nicely...

walmis•4/23/23, 2:24 PM

It uses none of these ports

It's 34380

walmis•4/23/23, 2:25 PM

The port is defined in main.py and telemFFB.lua

SskyPickle even when i click 'old' it only shows me two posts

FlatSpin•4/23/23, 3:08 PM

really? Cause I see 11+ pages of posts from you.

FlatSpin•4/23/23, 3:08 PM

272 results

FFlatSpin really? Cause I see 11+ pages of posts from you.

skyPickle•4/23/23, 3:29 PM

skyPickle•4/23/23, 3:29 PM

FlatSpin•4/23/23, 3:29 PM

type "from" in the search field and you'll see the search options

skyPickle•4/23/23, 3:30 PM

ok it wants my discord name, thank you.

FlatSpin•4/23/23, 3:30 PM

smitty•4/24/23, 12:25 AM

Ugh it’s doing it again. How to fix this?

Ssmitty Ugh it’s doing it again. How to fix this?

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 3:35 AM

are the motors doing a vibration/shudder type thing?

smitty•4/24/23, 3:36 AM

yea, the injected spring keeps going to 0 every second

smitty•4/24/23, 3:36 AM

from xpforce.

Ssmitty yea, the injected spring keeps going to 0 every second

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 3:37 AM

Walmis is aware of this & is working on a fix for it, is this mainly happen when not actually flying?

smitty•4/24/23, 3:37 AM

yep im looking forward to ditchin xpforce.. it happens all the time after loading into a flight

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 3:38 AM

for me it mainly happens when the stick is 'limp' while in a game but not flying & I move the stick all the way to the right x axis

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 3:38 AM

just need to try avoid the temptation to move the stick while it's in that state

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 3:40 AM

the good news is that from what I remember Walmis saying the actual shudder is the motor self protection kicking in

walmis•4/24/23, 4:11 AM

@pinksht These are two different problems

Not sure what's up with XPforce though. Does it happen only when 2 FFB devices are used simultaneously?

Wwalmis @pinksht These are two different problems 🙂 Not sure what's up with XPforce tho...

PiNKSH!T•4/24/23, 4:21 AM

Ooops sorry, got that one wrong

smitty•4/24/23, 5:06 AM

ive tried shutting down the pedals but it still happens. pedals by themself is ok. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

walmis•4/24/23, 5:11 AM

can you check the XPforce log file ? Or attach it here

ddrake1984•4/24/23, 6:06 AM

Proof that Walmis is thinking of working on pedals

Wwalmis can you check the XPforce log file ? Or attach it here

smitty•4/24/23, 11:36 AM

its 100mb

here is the last 4000 lines

smitty•4/24/23, 11:36 AM

XPForce_last.log257.82KB

smitty•4/24/23, 11:42 AM

and FWIW my vjoy setup has the ffb disabled & i dont run the rhino's thru it with gremlin at all. and gremlin wasnt even running, i am migrating away from it now

smitty•4/24/23, 11:42 AM

walmis•4/24/23, 1:01 PM

2023-04-24 : 00:36:43 ( 3764): Lost an effect - will try to reacquire.
2023-04-24 : 00:36:43 ( 3764): Shutting down force effects.

2023-04-24 : 00:36:43 ( 3764): Lost an effect - will try to reacquire.
2023-04-24 : 00:36:43 ( 3764): Shutting down force effects.

Not sure what's going on here.
Could try disabling vJoy completely? Does it happen only when two Rhino boards are used simultaneously?

smitty•4/24/23, 2:10 PM

will give that a try. i'm transitioning away from this 1st vjoy device, i used it to combine a bunch of things so i wouldnt have to switch so many devices in msfs to change planes. now i'm using SPAD.next for that, but needed to make the 2nd vjoy because turboprops have a condition lever that has weird inputs, and the vjoy is a go-between to accept "button presses" depending on lever position.

Stal2k•4/24/23, 2:22 PM

Hey all - am I the only one having trouble with VPForce-Telem? I did an update (git pull for TelemFFB) and unclear if that causes this but I'm getting this error. Some light Googling would indicate PyQt apparently changes things around from time to time which begs the question; did I inadvertently update this localizing this to me, or does TelemFFB need to be updated?

walmis•4/24/23, 2:26 PM

hey try pip install -U pyqt5pip install -U pyqt5 or get the precompiled exe version from github releases

Stal2k•4/24/23, 2:27 PM

Welp that did the dew.

Stal2k•4/24/23, 2:29 PM

Was that an update I just missed? I tend to just run a git pull from the command line every few days, guess I should get in the habit of checking the page?

ddrake1984•4/24/23, 2:29 PM

exe is great, no need for python

Dddrake1984 exe is great, no need for python 🙂

Stal2k•4/24/23, 2:30 PM

Ya, I didn't realize it had one now I'll prob switch. I feel like I need to cold-start DCS at this point with all the shit to run all the shit I use

ddrake1984•4/24/23, 2:30 PM

oh, I hear ya

Knight59•4/24/23, 4:07 PM

is there a new telem version? latest version I see is dated March 19th...

YYe Old Grog I thought Durham made a post earlier saying this problem went away if he removed...

TC-Durham•4/24/23, 4:19 PM

I am sure it is a wiring issue in the extension as when the cable is stretched straight out behavior is okay, only when compressed that I get the errant button behavior. Ordered another one this morning, and can meanwhile manage with the stick with the solid button 1 and the apache, the force trim effect being the main reason to buy the rhino in the first place.

walmis•4/24/23, 4:30 PM

@Rhino Owner @FFB/Kit Owner I've pushed a firmware update today. Fixed some quirks and the Force CompensationForce Compensation function should work properly now when axis is scaled.
@.durham Try it out, maybe it will help with the issue you're having.

Reed•4/24/23, 5:16 PM

With the travel limiter that can be 3D printed. Do any of you have a source for the total travel or deflection for a uh-60, ec145, 64c etc. looking for a good approximate number so I can print one limiter plate.

Wwalmis @Rhino Owner @FFB/Kit Owner I've pushed a firmware update today. Fixed some quir...

inpayne•4/24/23, 6:57 PM

What does force compensation do? A quick look through the manual I don’t see it on there.

Iinpayne What does force compensation do? A quick look through the manual I don’t see it ...

ju_caesar•4/24/23, 8:34 PM

The gimbal only has a finite amount of stiffness. At full force and full deflection, the gimbal will eat some of the travel, such that the motor won't see the full deflection but only a certain fraction.
At least this is what I understood it does.

Wwalmis ``` 2023-04-24 : 00:36:43 ( 3764): Lost an effect - will try to reacquire. 2023-...

smitty•4/24/23, 10:40 PM

so far, disabling vjoy seems to have fixed it- ill have to fully migrate away from it now!

Rob EB•4/24/23, 11:06 PM

@walmis After applying the new firmware update I'm seeing some odd behaviour with force comp on the X axis. Increasing the comp is reducing the reported axis deflection rather than compensating for loss of deflection caused by the spring induced flex. Y axis comp is working correctly (although it seems to be much more effective now).

I have an 11 degree throw limiter installed and axis have been calibrated with it.

I thought Durham made a post earlier saying this problem went away if he removed the extension. Did

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