will give that a try. i'm transitioning away from this 1st vjoy device, i used it to combine a bunch of things so i wouldnt have to switch so many devices in msfs to change planes. now i'm using SPAD.next for that, but needed to make the 2nd vjoy because turboprops have a condition lever that has weird inputs, and the vjoy is a go-between to accept "button presses" depending on lever position.