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the optifine dev is also a real scumbag
the optifine dev is also a real scumbag
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A
Aqua
idk, the only mod i have ever used is optifine and even then that's a recent thi...
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:40 PM
optifine is
old
A
Aqua
•
8/6/23, 11:40 PM
still seems to be updated tho
?
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:40 PM
yes
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:40 PM
but yes
, optifine dev is bad
M
Maxine
OP
•
8/6/23, 11:40 PM
optifine used to be called optimine in the beta days
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:40 PM
but yeah Bukkit and Spigot are totally in violation of the DMCA act
, there
’s a reason they
’ve got their own stash instance hosted on Romanian servers
M
Maxine
the optifine dev is also a real scumbag
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:40 PM
I love that basically every single
"optifine makes this mod crash
" gets a borderline autoresponse of
"lol idc
"
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:41 PM
From the optifine dev
M
Maxine
OP
•
8/6/23, 11:41 PM
i actually had optifine on my beta 1
.7
.3 instance because it fixes some GPU support issues
A
Aqua
•
8/6/23, 11:41 PM
how is the optifine dev bad lol
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:41 PM
I had a laptop that I absolutely had to sue optifine on for MC to even have sensible frame rates
K
King
I love that basically every single "optifine makes this mod crash" gets a border...
M
Maxine
OP
•
8/6/23, 11:41 PM
it
's really hard to make an
"optimization mod
" that isn
't incompatible with like all other mods
M
Maxine
i actually had optifine on my beta 1.7.3 instance because it fixes some GPU supp...
T
TechPizza
•
8/6/23, 11:42 PM
suspicious
, i don
't recall optifine doing anything magical in b1
.7
.3
K
King
Now we just need to add mod support or compatibility via some kind of java voodo...
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:42 PM
fun fact
: when
.NET 5 was originally announced they promised Java interop everywhere
. And when it finally released they quietly conveniently forgot they ever said anything about it haha
M
Maxine
it's really hard to make an "optimization mod" that isn't incompatible with like...
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:42 PM
idk sodium does a quite good job
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:42 PM
the fabric side of modding is a lot more compatible when it comes to rendering mods
P
Perksey
fun fact: when .NET 5 was originally announced they promised Java interop everyw...
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:42 PM
Wouldn
't suprise me if the reason for that was Oracle being boobs again
L
Lyris the Kitori
the fabric side of modding is a lot more compatible when it comes to rendering m...
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:43 PM
even huge rendering effecting mods like create and valkryan skies 2 work fine with sodium
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:43 PM
Haha
, I still love how they reacted to J
#
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:43 PM
there
’s still loads of silly features of the CLI that existed purely because of Java
/J
#
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:43 PM
like covariant arrays
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:44 PM
command line interface
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:44 PM
I
'm still convinced the only reason for J
# existing was cause some person was just really really like
"OMG I GIVE ME THE GODDAMN UNSIGNED
"
L
Lyris the Kitori
command line interface
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:44 PM
Knobs language infrastructure
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:44 PM
OR EVEN COMMON LANGUAGE INFRASTRUCTURE
K
King
I'm still convinced the only reason for J# existing was cause some person was ju...
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
you can do unsigned in java by just using JNI to call into a better language like C or C
+
+
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
then writing all your code in C
/C
+
+
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
then removing java
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
ewww don
't remind me
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
I once tried implementing like
.
.
. encryption into java
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
that involved unsigned bitshifting
A
Aqua
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
wait java doesnt support unsigned
?
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
Nope
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
and after like days of trying
, turns out java don
't like unsigned anything
, not even bitshifting
A
Aqua
•
8/6/23, 11:45 PM
what
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:46 PM
the easiest way to do it in pure java iirc is to use the next biggest type
, then emulate the smaller type using bitmasks
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:46 PM
I tried just using longs instead but yeah
.
.
. when you work with encryption stuff and don
't really have an entire college
's worth of math knowledge
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:46 PM
It becomes very impossible and very depressing
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:46 PM
yea welcome to java
]
A
Aqua
*what*
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:47 PM
yeah
, theres 0 unsigned types in java i think aside from char
?
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:47 PM
And the worst part was that the encryption was like
.
.
. XTEA
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:47 PM
1000 years old and the most baby tier encryption stuff ever
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:47 PM
and yet
.
.
. nope
L
Lyris the Kitori
yeah, theres 0 unsigned types in java i think aside from char?
A
Aqua
•
8/6/23, 11:47 PM
that is
an ouch
wtf
why
there is no logic in this
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:48 PM
its simpler
™
A
Aqua
•
8/6/23, 11:48 PM
b r u h
L
Lyris the Kitori
its simpler\™️
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:48 PM
^ literally every single Q
&A on the matter you find will say something along those lines
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:48 PM
yup
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:48 PM
thats the official stance
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:48 PM
You don
't
need
unsigned
, you silly billy
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