That effect (elevator droop) shouldn’t be playing at all unless the aircraft is tagged as a prop air

That effect (elevator droop) shouldn’t be playing at all unless the aircraft is tagged as a prop aircraft in the config. Can you confirm that effect is active in the TelemFFB effects monitor page?

NNumber481 That effect (elevator droop) shouldn’t be playing at all unless the aircraft is ...

Khangirey•9/2/23, 5:25 AM

weird. I restarted DCS and telem and it is no longer doing it

Khangirey•9/2/23, 5:26 AM

maybe it was a bug after all.
BTW - do you know if modern aircraft are supposed to autocenter the stick even when on the ground? I don't remember telemffb doing that before

Khangirey•9/2/23, 6:10 AM

Update: NVM I'm flying the mig 15 on enigma's now. When I spawned in the first time, it was good. I got killed and reslotted to respawn

Khangirey•9/2/23, 6:10 AM

and the stick immediately flung itself forward

KKhangirey Update: NVM I'm flying the mig 15 on enigma's now. When I spawned in the first t...

walmis•9/2/23, 6:21 AM

A TelemFFB log would be very useful

Khangirey•9/2/23, 6:34 AM

@walmis Just happened again

2023-09-01_221625.736_-_INFO_-_Tele.txt86.62KB

Khangirey•9/2/23, 6:35 AM

rip and again - just slammed forward before relaxing. This time as I was typing

Khangirey•9/2/23, 6:35 AM

and the aircraft was just doing the autostart procedure

KKhangirey @walmis Just happened again

walmis•9/2/23, 6:54 AM

Thanks, I think I know what could be the culprit here

Wwalmis Thanks, I think I know what could be the culprit here

Khangirey•9/2/23, 7:17 AM

Thanks. Look forward to figuring out what it is myself

Khangirey•9/2/23, 7:17 AM

As another point, is there a way to reduce braking force FFB? When I hit the brakes, my stick shoots forward too

Khangirey•9/2/23, 7:17 AM

but interestingly enough, if I'm using differential braking (soviet style) - even though it might slow me down as much, if I have a pedal pressed the effect goes away entirely

KKhangirey Thanks. Look forward to figuring out what it is myself

walmis•9/2/23, 7:21 AM

For the first issue you could try setting

runway_rumble_intensity

runway_rumble_intensity

to 0
The braking effect is

deceleration_effect_enable

deceleration_effect_enable

and

deceleration_max_force

deceleration_max_force

it based on longitudinal G force telemetry

Wwalmis For the first issue you could try setting `runway_rumble_intensity` to 0 The bra...

Khangirey•9/2/23, 7:23 AM

gotcha. to the second point, that would also explain why if I pulled my stick back hard and let the Gs come on then released my stick it would shoot forward (well past the center point). Correct?

walmis•9/2/23, 7:23 AM

That's the G force effect

Wwalmis That's the G force effect

Khangirey•9/2/23, 7:27 AM

Thanks. I'm still getting used to it. It makes me PIO around a target especially if I'm ground pounding

KKhangirey Thanks. I'm still getting used to it. It makes me PIO around a target especially...

walmis•9/2/23, 7:28 AM

Yeah, you can customize the intensity or turn it off

Wwalmis Yeah, you can customize the intensity or turn it off

Khangirey•9/2/23, 7:34 AM

I'll play around with it. Thank you
Last question - It is normal to have my stick have a very light autocentering when having no loading on my elevator, right? When I stall out in a jet or I am on the ground, the stick will gently return back to the center position.
Idk is this is a telemffb thing or a native DCS thing. Sounds normal, right?

KKhangirey I'll play around with it. Thank you Last question - It is normal to have my stic...

Number481OP•9/2/23, 11:27 AM

Quickest way to be certain would be to test without TelemFFB, however, TelemFFB does not touch spring forces or centering in any way (except for trim on the harrier).

Wwalmis Thanks, I think I know what could be the culprit here

Number481OP•9/2/23, 12:49 PM

I suspect the telemetry is going crazy during certain conditions like crashing and system startup. Need to add additional safeguards to ensure the effects can only start under the right conditions.

mark turner•9/2/23, 3:19 PM

I am asking here as there are lots of people and especially Walmis of course who understand FFB and how it works and so might know. There is an issue with the F14, when trying to use the ACLS, whereby when you get to the bit where you hand off control at around 2 miles, the jet will drive down into the sea. Apparently is a Heatblur issue, but it only does it when using an FFB joystick.....any way it could be investigated to understand the cause?

Mmark turner I am asking here as there are lots of people and especially Walmis of course who...

Number481OP•9/2/23, 3:34 PM

does the stick physically move causing the aircraft to nose over?

mark turner•9/2/23, 9:09 PM

It did on my Brunner, will check on the Rhino tomorrow

Jehly•9/2/23, 10:35 PM

Is there a limit of like 15A or something? I hit aroudn that number and it resets on me

blave549•9/2/23, 11:22 PM

I was flying the Cabri in MSFS today with hardware force trim turned on in the Configurator, and have hat/button assignments for the various trimming functions, but it doesn't seem to be working. This is what I have set up. Master gain is at 74%, and I typically keep the spring force knob (default assignment) at around 30-50%.. It worked before --- am I missing something? This is with a build that is probably two days old (I haven't installed the very latest one yet).

Number481OP•9/2/23, 11:31 PM

TelemFFB doesn’t do anything specific wtr helicopter flight controls (as long as the aircraft is typed properly in the config).

Do you have sticky enabled in configurator spring settings?

JJehly Is there a limit of like 15A or something? I hit aroudn that number and it rese...

Jehly•9/2/23, 11:53 PM

Is there a way to adjust this?

harry•9/3/23, 3:22 PM

Hi walmis, my joystick stopped forces e few times in the last days. Rudder motor was ok. And the position of the stick was working so I could controll the aircraft. Restarting the flight all was OK again. Do you have an idea or tip where I could search the error?

Hharry Hi walmis, my joystick stopped forces e few times in the last days. Rudder motor...

walmis•9/3/23, 3:30 PM

Hi, did you get a long beep when forces cut out? Which sim? did you use telemFFB ?

JJehly Is there a way to adjust this?

walmis•9/3/23, 3:34 PM

Could you give more info? Perhaps a screen recording of the VP conf app when that happens

harry•9/3/23, 3:47 PM

I can try this next week. Is there a log which I could look at?

harry•9/3/23, 3:55 PM

Sim was dcs, I did not hear a beep and I tried with and without telemffb. I happened with and without

Wwalmis Could you give more info? Perhaps a screen recording of the VP conf app when tha...

Jehly•9/3/23, 4:00 PM

I don't know exactly how to do that, if I'm honest. But I see the power goes to roughly 15A and then it beeps and the motors disengage.

Jehly•9/3/23, 4:01 PM

I've tried tweaking the settings on the right, thinking it's some kind of threshhold, but no joy.

walmis•9/3/23, 4:02 PM

What's the status down here? After the motors disengage

NNumber481 TelemFFB doesn’t do anything specific wtr helicopter flight controls (as long a...

blave549•9/3/23, 4:06 PM

When I said that it worked for me before -- I've been mostly in DCS for the last three or so weeks until a couple days ago and so this build is much newer than what I used in the beginning, when it worked.

I don't have Sticky turned on for anything.

Wwalmis What's the status down here? After the motors disengage

Jehly•9/3/23, 4:08 PM

At the moment, I'm talking specifically on my pedals. It says:

FAULT_UNEXPECTED_Q_CURRENT

FAULT_UNEXPECTED_Q_CURRENT

Bblave549 When I said that it worked for me before -- I've been mostly in DCS for the last...

Number481OP•9/3/23, 4:16 PM

Because of the way TelemFFB takes control of the spring for all of MSFS, you will need sticky enabled in order for the spring forces and configured force trim in configurator to work.

I’ve been playing with implementing a pseudo-native force trim in TelemFFB for MSFS but have run into some challenges and haven’t had a chance to run by walmis yet.

Wwalmis What's the status down here? After the motors disengage

harry•9/3/23, 4:18 PM

I will look at the status next time it happens and report

JJehly At the moment, I'm talking specifically on my pedals. It says: ```FAULT_UNEXPEC...

walmis•9/3/23, 4:20 PM

Ah, so this happens to pedals motor, not the Rhino? Does this happen during sudden movements or just when increasing tension slowly?

harry•9/3/23, 4:21 PM

No problems with the pedals motor. The Rhino joystick looses it's forces.

Hharry No problems with the pedals motor. The Rhino joystick looses it's forces.

walmis•9/3/23, 4:24 PM

I was referring to Jehlybean there, but in your case we to check if there's a hardware fault or just a software bug.

harry•9/3/23, 4:25 PM

Wwalmis Ah, so this happens to pedals motor, not the Rhino? Does this happen during sudd...

Jehly•9/3/23, 4:31 PM

both

goosemanha•9/6/23, 1:31 AM

lets say i payed for 2 could I use it for star citizen

Ggoosemanha lets say i payed for 2 could I use it for star citizen

TheAmazinGreat•9/6/23, 2:52 PM

Star Citizen wouldn’t have any FFB but you can still use them like a regular stick. The electronics would replace the springs for centering forces and be tunable. Probably more tunable than a regular spring stick.

neok•9/7/23, 1:06 AM

I noticed my fans running a lot more with the latest telemetry update in the f15. Probably because of the simulated g load on the y axis in turns. How hot can the motors get before it gets dangerous? They sit at around 53c in rate fights constantly.

neok•9/7/23, 1:06 AM

@walmis

Nneok I noticed my fans running a lot more with the latest telemetry update in the f15...

Number481OP•9/7/23, 1:13 AM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/968209757259300925/1110258162013044831

Vakarian•9/7/23, 9:22 AM

Mine has just been delivered

Ofc, curiosity got the better of me so I unboxed it at work and just connected to see if everything was OK.

What I noticed is that X motor status was OK, Y motor was OFFLINE in the VP configurator. I did try reconnecting the PSU, engage and disengage E-stop button, nothing changes.
I had to pack it for now, will continue when I get home from work, but I'm curious can anyone get me any pointers what to look at first?

This is all that's in the debug tab

log.txt1.33KB

That effect (elevator droop) shouldn’t be playing at all unless the aircraft is tagged as a prop air

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