It's 29 mm. And thanks for a good laugh 😄 (your username) 🇫🇮
It's 29 mm. And thanks for a good laugh 
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VThanks and you're welcome I guess 
MWas suggested I post here. I’m not sure if I’m doing something wrong but I’m really only feeling the constant effects I put in and some of the more haptic effects from telemFFB or something. I fly spit, 109 and F-1 mostly, which is what I’ve been testing in. The only non stick vibration-type effects I’ve felt have been on the f-1 while I’m taking off (stick moves around as I get up to speed) which was super cool. Posting in my settings. I fly DCS only
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TUnsure about DCS but I get a lot of the same in many IL-2 Great Battles aircraft, like when expending all airspeed in a vertical climb, the ailerons, X axis, go limp, but Y axis, the elevators/pitch, still has strength in it so I can't gauge it as well.
Was never an issue with the MSFFB2, and I've adjusted periodic, spring, dampner etc to try to isolate the issue, alas no go.
The Spitfire MKVb is the best one so far, probably the best FFB I've felt in IL-2 Great Battles on the Rhino, on the other side of the spectrum there's the Nieuport 17, Camel, DR.1, P-51 etc, elevator, Y axis, feels like the same constant pressure going top speed as it does at stall speed, with only rumble/rattle/shake as warning when I stall and no airspeed queue's at all.
War Thunder's FFB is non existent apart from arbitrarily shaking at the weirdest of times, while IL-2 CloD (once FF files are modified with Fedit) and IL-2 1946 so far has hands down the best over-all feel for all their aircraft.
Was never an issue with the MSFFB2, and I've adjusted periodic, spring, dampner etc to try to isolate the issue, alas no go.
The Spitfire MKVb is the best one so far, probably the best FFB I've felt in IL-2 Great Battles on the Rhino, on the other side of the spectrum there's the Nieuport 17, Camel, DR.1, P-51 etc, elevator, Y axis, feels like the same constant pressure going top speed as it does at stall speed, with only rumble/rattle/shake as warning when I stall and no airspeed queue's at all.
War Thunder's FFB is non existent apart from arbitrarily shaking at the weirdest of times, while IL-2 CloD (once FF files are modified with Fedit) and IL-2 1946 so far has hands down the best over-all feel for all their aircraft.
NI dont see anything abnormal in your settings. You haven't said what your expectations are yet, only that you aren't achieving them.
Taking the TelemFFB effects module out of the equation...
The first indication that DCS is "talking FFB" to your device is that the stick will go limp as soon as DCS starts. When you load into a module, depending on the type of module and how it implements FFB, the stick will take on those characteristics. If you jump into a warbird cold and dark or sitting at the end of the runway ready to take off, your stick should be flopping around. If you hot-start in the air, there will be spring tension.
If you jump in a FBW jet, the stick will just a have a constant spring force.
Taking the TelemFFB effects module out of the equation...
The first indication that DCS is "talking FFB" to your device is that the stick will go limp as soon as DCS starts. When you load into a module, depending on the type of module and how it implements FFB, the stick will take on those characteristics. If you jump into a warbird cold and dark or sitting at the end of the runway ready to take off, your stick should be flopping around. If you hot-start in the air, there will be spring tension.
If you jump in a FBW jet, the stick will just a have a constant spring force.
FHello i notice that my Y axis band is a bit looser than x axis band is there a way to tight it or is this going it’s suppose to be?
MSry. Yes. I’m expecting to experience more and stronger FFB effects as I fly around. Especially having to pull harder on the stick to get out of a dive.
MI just experimented with turning up the periodic effects and turning off the constant effects. Turning off the constant effect seemed to help. In the 109 I was seeing a marked different between on the ground and flying at speeds. However the pitch behaviours is still very different than I expected. I a dive there is more resistance in a roll than in pitching (pull out of the dive).
Afwiw -- sometimes when i launch DCS, just no FFB works at all from the game (telem will work fine, but for some reason the game just decides not to send me any FFB). usually i have to just kill it and re-launch it
Avery unclear why/when/how that happens, but it does happen sometimes
Ai.e. -- if you notice DCS not giving you any FFB, try just a simple restart of the game and see if anything changes
MThanks! I’ll def keep my eye on this
MCan anyone confirm if it’s supposed to be like this: that in a high speed dive (700kph in a 109) there is more resistance in the stick to roll than there is to pitch up?
MThat makes sense from a physics standpoint, the ailerons are father out from the CG and smaller surfaces. The elevator is centerline and larger. The elevator will also maintain effectiveness through a pull, where one wing will stall sooner in a roll
MThis also happens to me once in a while, also just restart to fix
Aglad to know I'm not the only one
AI had this happen when I ran the dedicated server as another instance of DCS, if I run it after I start the main instance, it takes over the ffb - of course giving you no effects since the server doesn't climb into a plane. That's a pretty fringe use case, though.
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FHey @walmis my y axis band is a bit looser that x axis band, is this suppose to be like this ?? Or can it be tighten ?
5Hi, just got my Rhino and wow what a beast, compared to the Gunfighter base! Just mounted it on my rig. Now I'm trying to get it working with FS2020. For the FFB, do I still need XPForce or does is work with TelemFFB? And does some have some good baseline settings for FS2020? thanks
BYou need TelemFFB. The configuration app... configures the Rhino. TelemFFB provides effects for DCS and to a lesser degree, MSFS (which does not have any native FFB).
There are several aircraft in the config file for MSFS, but I had to add an entry into the MSFS helicopters section of the user config file to get the Cowansim MD500E to work right -- otherwise TelemFFB would stop working almost immediately.
BTW this apparently isn't obvious at first but don't edit the config.ini file -- copy it to config.user.ini and edit that. And -- don't forget to copy that somewhere so that it doesn't get blown away when you install a newer version and delete the old directory... I do not recommend just copying a new version into the same directory that the older version is at, although someone here does that with no issues in this particular case. It's just not a good idea in general for apps/data (e.g. community aircraft, scenery, etc.).
There are several aircraft in the config file for MSFS, but I had to add an entry into the MSFS helicopters section of the user config file to get the Cowansim MD500E to work right -- otherwise TelemFFB would stop working almost immediately.
BTW this apparently isn't obvious at first but don't edit the config.ini file -- copy it to config.user.ini and edit that. And -- don't forget to copy that somewhere so that it doesn't get blown away when you install a newer version and delete the old directory... I do not recommend just copying a new version into the same directory that the older version is at, although someone here does that with no issues in this particular case. It's just not a good idea in general for apps/data (e.g. community aircraft, scenery, etc.).
HQuick question, but where is the intended connection point for the mount plate shown here: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1118790519103967242/1118790519103967242
H(Where does this plate mount to the MT chair/cockpit setup)
5Thank you, working now, need to play with the settings now 
HIs that along the right side rail and thus at an offset?
HThough I guess it looks like the spacing on those fasteners means you can put it on any of the 8020 tubes in the assembly
Bdoes this help? (BTW I just noticed that the profile that the bottom plate is mounted to is drooping. Not sure why, but I'll be trying to correct that.)
HThat makes more sense
BHere's another angle
HI currently have mine mounted to a large sheet of thick, quality plywood, but it's a bit cumbersome to move around, so I was looking into getting a dedicated seat setup for it and wondering if mounting it to the frame was worth the hassle
HHow much flex is there with high stick forces?
Bone unanticipated benefit of having mine mounted the way it is, is that the vibrations are transmitted through the profile frame and thus in the seat. It's pretty cool. I have an NLR HF8 haptic seat pad but decided it was redundant.
I don't fly combat much, and so I don't yank and bank nearly as much as some people. In fact, I've never heard the Rhino's fans come on. But then, I mostly fly helicopters.
I don't fly combat much, and so I don't yank and bank nearly as much as some people. In fact, I've never heard the Rhino's fans come on. But then, I mostly fly helicopters.
HI'm also running a 20cm extension, so it looks like floor mounting might be my only option to keep the relative height correct...
HI do like the idea of having the transducer push through the stick since it's mounted to the frame though
BHave you considered running it without the extension? I have two 100mm ones but they're in the closet. Almost purely by accident, the Rhino went on my setup perfectly without having to mess with anything...
HI'd actually bought a small transducer just for the rhino itself, but that would be an easier solution
HI've flown without them, and the extra throw is really useful for aircraft sensitive to control inputs
HI'd honestly really like an even longer extension, but I'd need more powerful motors and a riser for the seat to go much higher 
HLooking at the setup, I think it may be possible to mount this thing to the underside of the frame below the front of the seat
Byeahbut I think the Rhino has a lot more throw than regular joystick bases. I actually have mine limited via the Rhino config tool's Endstops setting (to 40%).
HIt's definitely got a lot of throw
H(And one complaint I have is the absolute edges of that throw aren't a perfect square/rectangle, they've got some deadspots around the perimeter that really need to be limited in the software)
HBut I definitely want something more similar to my experience flying a few aircraft/gliders where you've got a lot of range of motion to enable fine movements of control surfaces with gross movements of the stick. Really makes formation flying, etc. much easier to do when you can make minor corrections that are actually minor
HLike, my current setup has a throw that's getting close to a UH-60's cyclic range of motion
HBut it still needs another shorter extension to really get there