@walmis I'm having no luck getting my Rhino to recognize my WinWing F-16 grip. I have the Grip at

@walmis I'm having no luck getting my Rhino to recognize my WinWing F-16 grip. I have the Grip at the end of a Virpil Z-extension and the WinWing adapter. I thought it might be the Grip going bad but I just received a new Grip from WW and still no joy. I've previously attached the Grip directly to the Rhino via the adapter (without the extension) and that didn't work. If I connect a Virpil Alpha directly or via the Z-extension, it recognizes the buttons. All of these problems started after I updated 1.0.16. Can I roll back to 1.0.15? Any other suggestions? Screenshots below of my settings and debug output.

�𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀@walmis I'm having no luck getting my Rhino to recognize my WinWing F-16 grip....

walmis•10/1/23, 6:38 PM

From the log it looks like the adapter itself works, but it doesn't detect the WW grip via the 6pin connector. Is the WW cable fully seated?

Wwalmis From the log it looks like the adapter itself works, but it doesn't detect the W...

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𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀OP•10/1/23, 7:18 PM

Yes, I've got it down in there as far as it will go. Could the issue be with the adapter even though it shows up? I'm sending one of my WW Grips to a friend that also has a Rhino and WW Adapter to test.

�𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀Yes, I've got it down in there as far as it will go. Could the issue be with the...

walmis•10/1/23, 7:34 PM

It's possible. I've found the socket pins on the 6pin connector sometimes could be in too deep (I've made a video on how to fix it: https://photos.app.goo.gl/um8ZC7NgLJRGkY5U7). The newest adapters (after 2023 July) don't have this problem. If you have a multimeter I could guide you how to test it. If all else fails, I could mail you a new core PCB with connectors.

Wwalmis It's possible. I've found the socket pins on the 6pin connector sometimes could ...

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𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀OP•10/1/23, 7:38 PM

I do have a multimeter so please DM the guide. Thx.

�𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀I do have a multimeter so please DM the guide. Thx.

walmis•10/1/23, 7:41 PM

Will do tomorrow, cheers

Mustang 1-1•10/2/23, 2:53 AM

Okay I set the setting to loopback and when I go to the trim buttons I can’t figure out how to map them. I click the buttons but nothing happens.

Mustang 1-1•10/2/23, 2:53 AM

Is there something else I need to do? I have just set grip type to loopback and then tried ti set the buttons.

Mustang 1-1•10/2/23, 3:19 AM

Never mind I figured it out! It was in the manual haha.

NNumber481 post screenshots of your configurator settings (both settings and effects tabs)

Simon2012•10/3/23, 6:56 AM

So, I'm finally back in front of the pc
Here are my current settings

General feeling : way too light

Simon2012•10/3/23, 7:08 AM

This feels better actually

Simon2012•10/3/23, 7:08 AM

I guess it's gonna need some fine tuning

amadeus•10/3/23, 7:16 AM

Those settings seem way off thonk

how long is your extension?

Simon2012•10/3/23, 7:21 AM

20 cm

Simon2012•10/3/23, 7:21 AM

Way off for what ?

Simon2012•10/3/23, 7:22 AM

I'm just trying to get a "good" feeling, I must admit I have no clue what I'm doing

amadeus•10/3/23, 7:22 AM

20cm is a bit on the longer side, but that’s a lot of effects I feel like

walmis•10/3/23, 7:24 AM

@simon2012 I guess you're after center stiffness? Currently the whole force is distributed linearly through the whole throw range, so with an extension it might feel sloppy. Try "Axis scaling" at 50% and see how that goes.

Simon2012•10/3/23, 7:25 AM

Yes, what I'm definitely missing with the out-of-the-box settings is center stiffness
I'll give a try with axis scaling

Simon2012•10/3/23, 7:26 AM

By the way, I love the fact you can modify the settings on the spot, super convenient for testing !!!

ToreDL87•10/3/23, 3:27 PM

Tried DCS with the Rhino for the first time today, the P-51D.
Is there a way to turn down/off engine & gunfire FFB?

ToreDL87•10/3/23, 3:28 PM

Its rattling like h3ck for just barely making a slight bank left or right, whereas in IL-2 it starts rattling when getting close to the limit/edge, at that same point in DCS it nearly knocks a hole in my floor, obviously that's not a tenable situation lmfao

TToreDL87 Tried DCS with the Rhino for the first time today, the P-51D. Is there a way to ...

walmis•10/3/23, 3:30 PM

In the configurator what's the periodic effects slider at ?

walmis•10/3/23, 3:30 PM

That slider controls the rumble effects, it's 50% default

ToreDL87•10/3/23, 3:43 PM

Oh so thats what periodic is for!
I had that maxed out stress

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PiNKSH!T•10/6/23, 4:58 AM

Hey m8, first have you checked ffb in dcs settings?

PiNKSH!T•10/6/23, 4:59 AM

next have you got the config software installed? & the telem app?

PiNKSH!T•10/6/23, 4:59 AM

also what module?

smitty•10/6/23, 12:09 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1093558100713279508

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PiNKSH!T•10/6/23, 12:54 PM

hey m8 sorry I was actually getting my flight gear finally set up in new room. Did you get the Telem app sorted out? there should be a link somewhere to the .exe install version instead of the python version. Telem app works with dcs to add ffb effects to all the dcs modules without interrupting the native ffb effects, these added effects are things like ground texture, landing gear moving into place, flap & AoA flutter etc, gun shake, weapon release effect & others.

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Number481•10/6/23, 1:08 PM

The documentation may help you get set up.. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y/edit#heading=h.27yzpife8719

Make sure to grab the latest package from the link in the pinned messages in the TelemFFB channel that smitty linked above. There is also a link to the same downloads folder on the vpforce website in the doc.

Google Docs

VPforce Manual

VPforce RHINO FFB User Manual Version 0.2 (WIP) 2023-10-02 Table of Contents 1. Welcome 1 2. Getting Started 3 2.1. Technical Specifications 4 2.2. Physical Setup 5 2.2.1. The VKB Adapter 6 2.2.2. The WinWing Adapter 6 2.2.3 The RHINO Throw Limiter Adapters 7 2.3. Initial Connection and Up...

DeltaVJ•10/6/23, 3:03 PM

Hello, I have a poblem with telem ffb and the Spitfire, when I pass in a waje turbulence the ffb start to pull a random side of all it's power continuously until i turn off telem ffb (if I restant it everything IS fine and it does not happen every Time I pass a waje turbulence)

DeltaVJ•10/6/23, 3:33 PM

I don't find wich effect is on cause, using last release of telem ffb

PPiNKSH!T hey m8 sorry I was actually getting my flight gear finally set up in new room. D...

Fierce_Fire•10/6/23, 3:41 PM

Regarding adding ground texture, I dont know if dcs already does this but if it doesnt, could telemffb be used to add ground texture effects to a bass shaker?

FFierce_Fire Regarding adding ground texture, I dont know if dcs already does this but if it ...

Number481•10/6/23, 6:05 PM

No. TelemFFB does not interface with any other haptic devices. Other software (such as SimShaker) are specifically built to do that.

Bass shaker software works by playing pre-canned audio files to excite the shaker in various ways depending on the desired effect.

DDeltaVJ Hello, I have a poblem with telem ffb and the Spitfire, when I pass in a waje tu...

Number481•10/6/23, 6:18 PM

do you have the wind effect enabled? That particualr one doesnt play very well with wake turbulence. I keep it disabled myself.

DeltaVJ•10/6/23, 7:10 PM

Thanks i'm gonna try

DeltaVJ•10/6/23, 7:15 PM

Was that... but that's sad I really liked it

DDeltaVJ Was that... but that's sad I really liked it

Number481•10/6/23, 7:34 PM

~~You can lower the intensity~~ actually I need to double check that, it may just be a on/off currently. But it should not make your stick go crazy uncontrollably. You might take a look at your vpforce configuration settings compared to the default profile.

NNumber481 ~~You can lower the intensity~~ actually I need to double check that, it may jus...

Number481•10/6/23, 9:58 PM

Yeah, its only on/off currently. I've just added intensity settings for the wind effect, will be part of my next commit

DeltaVJ•10/7/23, 8:34 AM

It's a really strange effect, in wich the stick get forced in a direction until i restart telem

DeltaVJ•10/7/23, 8:35 AM

My telem ffb config is almost untouch

PiNKSH!T•10/8/23, 5:26 AM

Hey @walmis sorry to @ you m8, I'm trying to get my WW f-18 grip to work with the Rhino but it's not showing any button inputs, I have the latest firmware & config tool

PiNKSH!T•10/8/23, 5:32 AM

I don't have a ww base either so I can't plu that in to check

PPiNKSH!T Hey @walmis sorry to @ you m8, I'm trying to get my WW f-18 grip to work with t...

walmis•10/8/23, 5:36 AM

Is it the first time you're trying it? Check the debug tab with debug grip activated, if it's all FFs then the adapter is not detected, otherwise the grip is not detected. There were issues with male pins not reaching and mating with the adapter socket on the grip side.

Wwalmis Is it the first time you're trying it? Check the debug tab with debug grip activ...

PiNKSH!T•10/8/23, 5:38 AM

cheers m8 I'll check this now

Wwalmis Is it the first time you're trying it? Check the debug tab with debug grip activ...

PiNKSH!T•10/8/23, 5:43 AM

that's what comes up with grip debug

walmis•10/8/23, 6:04 AM

Okay, so the adapter itself works, just doesn't communicate with the grip. Did the adapter work before or are you trying it the first time?

Wwalmis Okay, so the adapter itself works, just doesn't communicate with the grip. Did t...

PiNKSH!T•10/8/23, 6:06 AM

this is the first time for the adapter & the grip, I haven't had my flight stuff set up for a while.

walmis•10/8/23, 6:11 AM

You can try pushing the grip connector in harder

PiNKSH!T•10/8/23, 6:12 AM

ok so I have removed the grip extension & have just the wire from the grip going into the adapter, adapter plugged into the Rhino, when I press a button on the grip the base shaft shakes violently

@walmis I'm having no luck getting my Rhino to recognize my WinWing F-16 grip. I have the Grip at

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