Hey @walmis sorry to @ you m8, I'm trying to get my WW f-18 grip to work with the Rhino but it's no

Hey @walmis sorry to @ you m8, I'm trying to get my WW f-18 grip to work with the Rhino but it's not showing any button inputs, I have the latest firmware & config tool

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 5:32 AM

I don't have a ww base either so I can't plu that in to check

PPiNKSH!T Hey @walmis sorry to @ you m8, I'm trying to get my WW f-18 grip to work with t...

walmis•10/8/23, 5:36 AM

Is it the first time you're trying it? Check the debug tab with debug grip activated, if it's all FFs then the adapter is not detected, otherwise the grip is not detected. There were issues with male pins not reaching and mating with the adapter socket on the grip side.

Wwalmis Is it the first time you're trying it? Check the debug tab with debug grip activ...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 5:38 AM

cheers m8 I'll check this now

Wwalmis Is it the first time you're trying it? Check the debug tab with debug grip activ...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 5:43 AM

that's what comes up with grip debug

walmis•10/8/23, 6:04 AM

Okay, so the adapter itself works, just doesn't communicate with the grip. Did the adapter work before or are you trying it the first time?

Wwalmis Okay, so the adapter itself works, just doesn't communicate with the grip. Did t...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:06 AM

this is the first time for the adapter & the grip, I haven't had my flight stuff set up for a while.

walmis•10/8/23, 6:11 AM

You can try pushing the grip connector in harder

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:12 AM

ok so I have removed the grip extension & have just the wire from the grip going into the adapter, adapter plugged into the Rhino, when I press a button on the grip the base shaft shakes violently

walmis•10/8/23, 6:13 AM

probably the settings are a bit wrong and there's no weight on the base, you can turn off the motors for testing

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:14 AM

now the debug is all FF & 00

Wwalmis probably the settings are a bit wrong and there's no weight on the base, you can...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:15 AM

yeah I have the red stop depressed & the buttons show up

walmis•10/8/23, 6:16 AM

so it started working now?

Wwalmis so it started working now?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:18 AM

without the extension, so I'm just holding the grip with the wire running to base, when I touch the grip male end going into adapter female end it will play up, as for the violent shaking with a button press I'm not sure what that is

PPiNKSH!T without the extension, so I'm just holding the grip with the wire running to bas...

walmis•10/8/23, 6:19 AM

That's not related to the buttons

walmis•10/8/23, 6:19 AM

Can you show me your settings?

Wwalmis Can you show me your settings?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:20 AM

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:21 AM

these were with my vkb mcgu grip & adapter

walmis•10/8/23, 6:23 AM

Try these settings:

Wwalmis Try these settings:

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:25 AM

it goes crazy again straight away even with those settings

walmis•10/8/23, 6:26 AM

Try spring @2Hz

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:27 AM

those blue bars change when the wire to adapter is touched/moved which stops the input from showing

Wwalmis Try spring @2Hz

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:27 AM

spring force lpf?

PPiNKSH!T spring force lpf?

walmis•10/8/23, 6:27 AM

Yeah

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:28 AM

nope it goes crazy again

walmis•10/8/23, 6:29 AM

Reduce the spring strength using the knob, when there is no weight attached it becomes unstable with a high gain

walmis•10/8/23, 6:30 AM

once you have everything mounted you can tune it back up

Wwalmis Reduce the spring strength using the knob, when there is no weight attached it b...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:30 AM

oh ok, just testing my vkb grip

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:31 AM

vkb mcgu & 200mm extension everything stable, as you say no weight is making it unstable

Wwalmis once you have everything mounted you can tune it back up

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:48 AM

would it be ok to put hot glue on the adapter where the ww grip male end goes in? this bit is very finicky, when I just had the wire from grip the button inputs were good, now again with the extension installed it must be interfereing with the connection to the adapter

walmis•10/8/23, 6:51 AM

Do you use a WW extension or a Virpil?

Wwalmis Do you use a WW extension or a Virpil?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:51 AM

can I just trim the wire from extension?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:51 AM

it's when it bunches up in the grip that it stops working, is it just normal wires inside?

walmis•10/8/23, 6:52 AM

yeah, actually 3 wires are only used

Wwalmis yeah, actually 3 wires are only used

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:55 AM

I think I'll just do this tomorrow when I can get some heat shrink for it

PiNKSH!TOP•10/8/23, 6:55 AM

cheers for your help m8

Fer•10/8/23, 7:19 PM

Hello after plugging a new control to my pc with DCS open my rhino loose it’s ffb capability just works as a regular joystick, and I have to restart DCS to get back the ffb, any idea what this happens or how to solve it ?

ddrake1984•10/9/23, 12:48 AM

It could be the USB hub?

ddrake1984•10/9/23, 12:48 AM

Might drop power to the RHINO?

Fer•10/9/23, 3:23 AM

Don’t know maybe has something to do with windows because in my other pc it doesn’t have that behavior

FFer Don’t know maybe has something to do with windows because in my other pc it does...

ddrake1984•10/9/23, 4:27 AM

With the same USB hub?

Fer•10/9/23, 5:54 AM

Yep

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 10:59 AM

How do I calibrate with a physical endstop? do I uncheck software endstop to start I guess? then what about calibration without the stick ending up off set to the front?

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:15 AM

I'm also getting instability when using the default profile & endstops, moving side to aide x axis

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:20 AM

@walmis sorry to @ you again, but can you help with telling me how to calibrate with the physical endstop? cheers m8

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:21 AM

I can calibrate it obviously but it's not ending up 'off set' for the limiter

PPiNKSH!T @walmis sorry to @ you again, but can you help with telling me how to calibrate ...

walmis•10/9/23, 11:21 AM

Yeah, disable endstops and axis scaling and calibrate the using the auto calibrate tool

Wwalmis Yeah, disable endstops and axis scaling and calibrate the using the auto calibra...

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:23 AM

& this will have the stick end up "off set" for the limiter? ie. Y axis 35%+ 50%-?

walmis•10/9/23, 11:27 AM

You will need to manually tweak the axis scaling and calibration values.
Calibrate as you would always do, then increase the calibrated

Y max

Y max

value so the stick roughly centers, then enable

axis scaling

axis scaling

, leave all axis at 100%, but reduce Y fwd % so it matches full logical travel when it reaches the endstop.

PiNKSH!TOP•10/9/23, 11:28 AM

can you tell me what in my setting would be giving me instability when moving along the axis?

Hey @walmis sorry to @ you m8, I'm trying to get my WW f-18 grip to work with the Rhino but it's no

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