Pwithout the extension, so I'm just holding the grip with the wire running to base, when I touch the grip male end going into adapter female end it will play up, as for the violent shaking with a button press I'm not sure what that is
WThat's not related to the buttons
WCan you show me your settings?
P
Pthese were with my vkb mcgu grip & adapter
WTry these settings:
Pit goes crazy again straight away even with those settings
WTry spring @2Hz
Pthose blue bars change when the wire to adapter is touched/moved which stops the input from showing
Pspring force lpf?
WYeah
Pnope it goes crazy again
WReduce the spring strength using the knob, when there is no weight attached it becomes unstable with a high gain
Wonce you have everything mounted you can tune it back up
Poh ok, just testing my vkb grip
Pvkb mcgu & 200mm extension everything stable, as you say no weight is making it unstable
Pwould it be ok to put hot glue on the adapter where the ww grip male end goes in? this bit is very finicky, when I just had the wire from grip the button inputs were good, now again with the extension installed it must be interfereing with the connection to the adapter
WDo you use a WW extension or a Virpil?
PWW
Pcan I just trim the wire from extension?
Pit's when it bunches up in the grip that it stops working, is it just normal wires inside?
Wyeah, actually 3 wires are only used
PI think I'll just do this tomorrow when I can get some heat shrink for it
Pcheers for your help m8
FHello after plugging a new control to my pc with DCS open my rhino loose it’s ffb capability just works as a regular joystick, and I have to restart DCS to get back the ffb, any idea what this happens or how to solve it ?
DIt could be the USB hub?
DMight drop power to the RHINO?
FDon’t know maybe has something to do with windows because in my other pc it doesn’t have that behavior
DWith the same USB hub?
FYep
PHow do I calibrate with a physical endstop? do I uncheck software endstop to start I guess? then what about calibration without the stick ending up off set to the front?
PI'm also getting instability when using the default profile & endstops, moving side to aide x axis
P@walmis sorry to @ you again, but can you help with telling me how to calibrate with the physical endstop? cheers m8
PI can calibrate it obviously but it's not ending up 'off set' for the limiter
WYeah, disable endstops and axis scaling and calibrate the using the auto calibrate tool
P& this will have the stick end up "off set" for the limiter? ie. Y axis 35%+ 50%-?
WYou will need to manually tweak the axis scaling and calibration values.
Calibrate as you would always do, then increase the calibrated
Calibrate as you would always do, then increase the calibrated
Y maxaxis scalingcan you tell me what in my setting would be giving me instability when moving along the axis?
WTry maybe damper LPF at 4-6Hz
WInertia and frinction also reduce stability
PY axis is good with 5.0Hz but can still feel slight bit on X axis??
Wdoes it vibrate ?
Pyeah that's what I meant by "instability" sorry, it vibrated violently then motor safety kicked in. Now with the 5.0Hz & I dropped Inertia & dampner by 5% each I still feel very slight vibration in x axis, like it may go in game
WTry 4Hz damper
Pok thanks that got it! Now I just need to try get the calibration/axis scaling done right 
. Thanks so much for your help Walmis it's very much appreciated m8
. Thanks so much for your help Walmis it's very much appreciated m8Poh also are you considering making new vkb adapters for the new attachment they have? sick of how mine always end up loose, I want to change the parts over soon
Pomg why does it feel like I'm doing what you described but I'm just not getting the desired outcome 
Phey m8 I'm sorry to keep bothering you, I calibrated as normal then I had to lower not increase the Y max value to move the stick forward to around the center, then I put axis scaling at 65% forward & leave the rear Y @100%. When it comes to the X axis the physical limiter is at 50% do I need to adjust the X max value or just use the axis scaling to limit the X +/- axis?
Ptesting this seems to be getting my heat up to 50°c & the fans going, I've never really had this before
Pseems like pulling back on Y axis is getting the temp up, I had these same setting previously with the software endstops & I never really had the fans kick in during use, maybe it's just cause I'm testing it & not using it 'normally'. I'll see how it is in game, if I make it