Iwould the pedal mod need a separate power source from the joystick?
WYes, indeed
Iwould it be impossible to get a power source which would deliver power to both? I mean I don't know if there's some technical reason why this couldn't work
WThe PSU that's included with the Rhino would be too weak to handle both stick and pedals at deflection and most likely would shutdown during max load. A 350W supply would handle both no problem.
AI'm essentially full of questions, but I'd like to know at least
1) where does the data come from (telemFFB?) and do we have what we need to simulate for example aerodynamic forces
2) what kind of power and endurance are expected, even though my upper body is quite impressive, my legs are far more powerful. Can the system handle for example a 109 on a long sortie?
3) which versions of MFG are supported?
4) If you hypothetically imagine someone who is essentially incapable of sentient thought and has a bunch of limp dicks for fingers, would he be able to put the thing together?
1) where does the data come from (telemFFB?) and do we have what we need to simulate for example aerodynamic forces
2) what kind of power and endurance are expected, even though my upper body is quite impressive, my legs are far more powerful. Can the system handle for example a 109 on a long sortie?
3) which versions of MFG are supported?
4) If you hypothetically imagine someone who is essentially incapable of sentient thought and has a bunch of limp dicks for fingers, would he be able to put the thing together?
Aalso is there any form of co-operation going on, is it for example going to be possible to possibly order a compatible set of MFGs ready made in the future?
Awhen will the 6dof motion platform be released
DSame here
BPerhaps Wallis could sell kits directly to Milan for possibly a complete solution to end users 
Sone more thing bolt to the ground!!
Swould be too much overkill to have brakes FFB? to simulate loss of brake power and antiskid sim
MThat would require 2 additional motors to be installed in to the setup
SI know.. way too much overkill!!!
Aif it's worth doing it's worth overdoing
DDoesn’t the hind have ffb effects?
DAlso please please please consider ffb for other pedals @walmis
NFor pedals? No... The only FFB effects for pedals in DCS are the ones that have been added to TelemFFB.. and today that is limited to all of the haptic effects (rumbles) and auto-switching between sprung for FW and un-sprung for Helo
NDCS only understands 2 axes for FFB.. and if you aren't running TelemFFB and you don't 'sticky' your spring on your pedals.. the aileron trim will actually trim your pedal axis too (as will the re-centering of force-trim in a helicopter)
DThe pedals from memory in the hind auto move based on the autopilot settings and also when you increase/decrease collective etc, but I guess the visual and dynamic effects arent translated to FFB? Seems it should be easy if its just gathering the pedals position from the sim
DI refer to this article about pedal ffb also https://forum.dcs.world/topic/316879-pedals-trimmer-mode-no-setting-for-pedals-without-spring-or-ffb/
ED Forums
I've been working with flying the Hind for a while now, and I got pretty good at flying it back when the pedals logic could be set to pedals without springs and FFB as I typically fly helicopters with my MFG xwinds with the spring off and the damper turned up. With the new microswitch logic set i...
NI think the common misconception is what is meant by "Without Springs and FFB".. some people seem to think it means "Does not have springs and has FFB".. but I think it is just poor English and actually means "Does not have springs or FFB".
That said, I can tell you that DCS does not understand what FFB pedals are. I never knew for sure if it was because we have to use the X axis for the DIY pedals or not, but I saw a recent post in the HOTAS discord from a brunner user who said the exact thing I am telling you.
ED Can't even seem to get the 'microswitch' logic to work right for the in-game auto-trimming pedals on the MI24.. It might be difficult to even do it artificially outside of DCS (in TelemFFB) unless you had some sort of foot switch that knew when your feet were on the pedals (as it is in the real helicopter).
That said, I can tell you that DCS does not understand what FFB pedals are. I never knew for sure if it was because we have to use the X axis for the DIY pedals or not, but I saw a recent post in the HOTAS discord from a brunner user who said the exact thing I am telling you.
ED Can't even seem to get the 'microswitch' logic to work right for the in-game auto-trimming pedals on the MI24.. It might be difficult to even do it artificially outside of DCS (in TelemFFB) unless you had some sort of foot switch that knew when your feet were on the pedals (as it is in the real helicopter).
DGotcha, thanks for clarity on this, I did see the chat on brunner channel, but wasnt sure.
I do notice the pedals in DCS can move by themselves, this is why I thought it was getting some information or data from what the frame was doing, but maybe no API out output for that
I do notice the pedals in DCS can move by themselves, this is why I thought it was getting some information or data from what the frame was doing, but maybe no API out output for that
PWalmis this is awesome!!!! tbh I'd be happy to start with just having my pedals trim in the Huey etc. would make life a 'lil bit easier. Also be keen to see some other pedals get their kit too in time. What's the census on toe brakes having ffb?
TThat's so cool, definitively want one when you release it 
AWhat are the prospects of selling a kit tailored to different types of pedals? E.g. VPC pedals
WUnlikely in the short term. However there's the excellent @_gunzablazin 's Virpil ACE mod https://github.com/Number481/VirpilACE-VPForce-Mod
GitHub
DIY VPForce 86BLF-03 kit mod for the Virpil ACE rudder pedals - GitHub - Number481/VirpilACE-VPForce-Mod: DIY VPForce 86BLF-03 kit mod for the Virpil ACE rudder pedals
AOh okay yeah I ordered mine on the 25th and fedex is still waiting to receive the package that’s why I was wondering
Syep same here, but it seems like once fedex has it, it's instantly transported
AYeah I was just wondering cuz I press a day after smitty and FedEx says awaiting package so I wasn’t sure if another handler had it before FedEx or if the lable was just created on Monday and not dropped off yet. I know yesterday and today are holidays in LIT
NDon’t know the answer but that’s why I suspected customs was the initial couple of days. Like @smitty981 says, once FedEx got it, it was on my front porch in just a couple of days. Well-packed too.
Nbut the real Huey doesn't have pedal trim 
WYeah, there is an intermediate company (Omniva) that delivers to the FedEx hub in Kaunas, so there is a minimum of one day lag. I see your package was delivered on 31th, so right before the holiday, hence why it appears stuck.
APerrrfect thank you 
Poh nice to know, cheers for the tip 
NI was being more of a smart ass than anything The huey might be challenging since it doesn't have separate 'trim modes' for the cyclic and pedals (only 'enable rudder trimmer'), and with the trimmer mode set to work with FFB cyclic ('default') the pedals behave poorly.. when you release force trim, you get the 'double input' if you don't bring your pedals back to center.
That being said.. TelemFFB already disables spring force on the pedals when you enter a helicopter, so you don't even really need trim.. pedals will stay where you put them.
The huey might be challenging since it doesn't have separate 'trim modes' for the cyclic and pedals (only 'enable rudder trimmer'), and with the trimmer mode set to work with FFB cyclic ('default') the pedals behave poorly.. when you release force trim, you get the 'double input' if you don't bring your pedals back to center.That being said.. TelemFFB already disables spring force on the pedals when you enter a helicopter, so you don't even really need trim.. pedals will stay where you put them.
NOn helicopters with electric pedal trim.. there may be something to implement there.
ATheoretically I could already disconnect the spring on the MFGs pretty easily when I fly helicopters, but I just can't be arsed to do it
Ahaving ffb pedals that automatically do that for me and provide completely sticktion free damping and resistance would be pretty awesome
NIts easy enough on the VIrpils as well.. but I'm too old and lazy to be crawling under my desk to remove springs whenever I want to switch types.. plus the dampening with the motors is %100 better than any motorcycle steering dampener
I'm thinking abut a hydraulics loss effect, too (for pedals and cyclic), that would sure make things interesting
I'm thinking abut a hydraulics loss effect, too (for pedals and cyclic), that would sure make things interesting
MAnyone had luck getting Virpil LEDs working on the rhino, or word about work on them?
AHello,
Does anyone have ready-made settings for Rhino for DCS and Mi-24P and Mi-8MTV2? Preferably as realistic as possible.
I have limiter for 11 degrees.
Does anyone have ready-made settings for Rhino for DCS and Mi-24P and Mi-8MTV2? Preferably as realistic as possible.
I have limiter for 11 degrees.
Athey aren't supported atm. I did start a thread about it a while back, and walmis mentioned a lot of it is dependent on him reverse engineering an existing base
Ahere's the thread if interested: https://canary.discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1077499127614677045
Mty
BHow much does rhino base cost
TFAQ
Pyes !!!! Ive got a set of Slaw pedals and next to a yoke option ( cough @walmis chough) a slaw update kit would be a day 1 buy!!!!
DAgreed
P@walmis would be great to have an announcements channel for SW/HW additions to the family- thoughts team 'VPforce community' ?
