Yeah I was just wondering cuz I press a day after smitty and FedEx says awaiting package so I wasn’t

Yeah I was just wondering cuz I press a day after smitty and FedEx says awaiting package so I wasn’t sure if another handler had it before FedEx or if the lable was just created on Monday and not dropped off yet. I know yesterday and today are holidays in LIT

N7783L•11/2/23, 1:19 PM

Don’t know the answer but that’s why I suspected customs was the initial couple of days. Like @smitty981 says, once FedEx got it, it was on my front porch in just a couple of days. Well-packed too.

PPiNKSH!T Walmis this is awesome!!!! tbh I'd be happy to start with just having my pedals ...

Number481•11/2/23, 1:24 PM

but the real Huey doesn't have pedal trim

AA. Palmetto Yeah I was just wondering cuz I press a day after smitty and FedEx says awaiting...

walmis•11/2/23, 1:25 PM

Yeah, there is an intermediate company (Omniva) that delivers to the FedEx hub in Kaunas, so there is a minimum of one day lag. I see your package was delivered on 31th, so right before the holiday, hence why it appears stuck.

Wwalmis Yeah, there is an intermediate company (Omniva) that delivers to the FedEx hub i...

A. PalmettoOP•11/2/23, 1:27 PM

Perrrfect thank you

NNumber481 but the *real* Huey doesn't have pedal trim 😅

PiNKSH!T•11/2/23, 1:37 PM

oh nice to know, cheers for the tip

Number481•11/2/23, 1:51 PM

I was being more of a smart ass than anything

The huey might be challenging since it doesn't have separate 'trim modes' for the cyclic and pedals (only 'enable rudder trimmer'), and with the trimmer mode set to work with FFB cyclic ('default') the pedals behave poorly.. when you release force trim, you get the 'double input' if you don't bring your pedals back to center.

That being said.. TelemFFB already disables spring force on the pedals when you enter a helicopter, so you don't even really need trim.. pedals will stay where you put them.

Number481•11/2/23, 1:52 PM

On helicopters with electric pedal trim.. there may be something to implement there.

AndyHill•11/2/23, 4:11 PM

Theoretically I could already disconnect the spring on the MFGs pretty easily when I fly helicopters, but I just can't be arsed to do it

AndyHill•11/2/23, 4:12 PM

having ffb pedals that automatically do that for me and provide completely sticktion free damping and resistance would be pretty awesome

Number481•11/2/23, 4:48 PM

Its easy enough on the VIrpils as well.. but I'm too old and lazy to be crawling under my desk to remove springs whenever I want to switch types.. plus the dampening with the motors is %100 better than any motorcycle steering dampener

I'm thinking abut a hydraulics loss effect, too (for pedals and cyclic), that would sure make things interesting

MashedPotato•11/2/23, 6:06 PM

Anyone had luck getting Virpil LEDs working on the rhino, or word about work on them?

Andrut•11/2/23, 7:01 PM

Hello,
Does anyone have ready-made settings for Rhino for DCS and Mi-24P and Mi-8MTV2? Preferably as realistic as possible.
I have limiter for 11 degrees.

MMashedPotato Anyone had luck getting Virpil LEDs working on the rhino, or word about work on ...

amadeus•11/2/23, 7:29 PM

they aren't supported atm. I did start a thread about it a while back, and walmis mentioned a lot of it is dependent on him reverse engineering an existing base

amadeus•11/2/23, 7:30 PM

here's the thread if interested: https://canary.discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1077499127614677045

MashedPotato•11/2/23, 7:51 PM

BA101•11/3/23, 12:46 AM

How much does rhino base cost

BBA101 How much does rhino base cost

TrigaNZ•11/3/23, 12:47 AM

FAQ

Dddrake1984 Also please please please consider ffb for other pedals @walmis

plehmann•11/3/23, 12:56 AM

yes !!!! Ive got a set of Slaw pedals and next to a yoke option ( cough @walmis chough) a slaw update kit would be a day 1 buy!!!!

Pplehmann yes !!!! Ive got a set of Slaw pedals and next to a yoke option ( cough @walmi...

ddrake1984•11/3/23, 12:56 AM

Agreed

plehmann•11/3/23, 12:57 AM

@walmis would be great to have an announcements channel for SW/HW additions to the family- thoughts team 'VPforce community' ?

FFlatSpin Sighs in Thrustmaster TPR

smitty•11/3/23, 1:40 AM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1169811787856756756

HPLsCat•11/3/23, 1:50 AM

DCS modules don't really support FFB rudders beyond telemetry, correct? Doubly so if you have a FFB stick?

HHPLsCat DCS modules don't really support FFB rudders beyond telemetry, correct? Doubly s...

mechsicko•11/3/23, 2:54 AM

Depends on the module. Some have native DirectInput suport for FFB, others need to be extrapolated via telemetry

mechsicko•11/3/23, 2:54 AM

Wait I just saw you meant rudders.. nvmd

HHPLsCat DCS modules don't really support FFB rudders beyond telemetry, correct? Doubly s...

Number481•11/3/23, 3:30 AM

It doesn’t support them at all. It sends FFB data for the only two axes it knows to every FFB device that is connected. Which is actually worse than not supporting pedals at all.

Wwalmis Hey guys, presenting you my very compact design of the MFG pedals FFB conversion...

aniron•11/3/23, 7:46 AM

Is the VPforce FFB board saturated with axes in this setup?

Could the same board drive an FFB collective?

Aaniron Is the VPforce FFB board saturated with axes in this setup? Could the same boar...

walmis•11/3/23, 8:01 AM

No, only two FFB axis are supported

walmis•11/3/23, 8:02 AM

The other axes are auxiliary - from the grip, from the pot inputs

aniron•11/3/23, 8:02 AM

But the pedals would have only one FFB axis as would the collective, no?

aniron•11/3/23, 8:03 AM

And then two aux axes from the toe brakes.

walmis•11/3/23, 8:03 AM

ah, if you mean the same board to drive the pedals and collective - yes that's possible. But the software side.. would be awkward

aniron•11/3/23, 8:03 AM

Or is it problematic to combine two FFB controls into one device like that?

walmis•11/3/23, 8:03 AM

It's better to have separate devices for specific functions

aniron•11/3/23, 8:03 AM

Copy.

aniron•11/3/23, 8:05 AM

Conveniently I have just received complaints from my wife that the spring of my MFG Crosswinds is making too loud squeaky noises.

I know what I must do. ^^

VPforceBot•11/3/23, 9:45 AM

RHINO #0238 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•11/3/23, 9:45 AM

RHINO #0239 Has Shipped!

Snubblaren•11/3/23, 5:41 PM

I've hade it for a week all is fine except today all the bindings went away and I couldn't use the Backup bindings. Think it's a DCS problem, but is there a way to prevent this to happen?

Spatz•11/3/23, 5:59 PM

Hm never had the issue try unplug und reconnect - hope that fixes your issue

SSnubblaren I've hade it for a week all is fine except today all the bindings went away and ...

JIGGAwest•11/3/23, 8:41 PM

All the bindings for all the aircraft are not set? Are your other control bindings still present ? There's usually backups of your bindings in the DCS saved games folder.

C:/users/USERNAME/Saved Games/DCS/config/input

Snubblaren•11/3/23, 8:52 PM

Just the VP bindings is gone.

SSnubblaren Just the VP bindings is gone.

JIGGAwest•11/3/23, 8:56 PM

For all the aircraft or just one particular aircraft. The p-51 can do this to you.

Snubblaren•11/3/23, 8:57 PM

All

SSnubblaren All

JIGGAwest•11/3/23, 9:18 PM

Were you able to find the backup control profile in your saved games folder? I wonder if your USB ID changed somehow ..?

JJIGGAwest Were you able to find the backup control profile in your saved games folder? I w...

Snubblaren•11/4/23, 9:49 AM

Yes and that didn't work.

NNumber481 \*\*\* New TelemFFB Build \*\*\* supporting the HPG Airbus helicopters! Big t...

TheDude9974•11/4/23, 10:47 AM

OK, I'm trying to wrap my head around this

. A few questions remain for clarification:

I want to use hardware trim for HPG helos and for other MSFS helos, so I have to disable "StickySticky" and "Hardware Force TrimHardware Force Trim" in VPforce FFB Configurator?
Then I have to unbind ''Helicopter Cyclic LongitudinalHelicopter Cyclic Longitudinal and ''Helicopter Cyclic LateralHelicopter Cyclic Lateral" axis in MSFS or AAO (I'm using the latter) and bind "ROTOR_LATERAL_TRIM_DEC/INCROTOR_LATERAL_TRIM_DEC/INC" and "ROTOR_LONGITUDINAL_TRIM_DEC/INCROTOR_LONGITUDINAL_TRIM_DEC/INC", correct?
if I don't have a FFB collective, I just leave that axis untouched?
I don't get the cyclic trim in non-HPG helos to work like with "Hardware Trim ForceHardware Trim Force". Is that because of "trim_followingtrim_following" not working yet with helicopters?

TTheDude9974 OK, I'm trying to wrap my head around this 😬 . A few questions remain for clari...

Number481•11/4/23, 2:02 PM

I'll see if I can answer this all in one go...

Disable sticky since that will preclude any external app from modifying the behavior of that effect. You can leave hardware trim enabled, but you will want to un-check override trim for the HPG
- TelemFFB has a "hardware force trim" (but not hat trimming) implementation that works with all helicopters
TelemFFB needs to be the source of the axis position data for the cyclic since we are playing tricks on MSFS to make all these trim and AP implementations work (both here with the HPGs and with fixed-wing).
For the HPG 145/160 beep trims, you can either bind the in-game "ROTOR...TRIM_DEC/INC" bindings or you can send the applicable H:Event 'Cyclic Beep Trim <Direction>' events from AAO
Most helicopters don't have electric hat-type trimmers, so the generic 'trim following' implementation in TelemFFB has not been extended to work with generic helicopters. If you want to use the VPConf 'override trim' with other helicopters, you can make use of the dynamic vpconf profile switching feature in TelemFFB to load.
The other as yet undocumented advice I would give is to be certain that your stick is set up so that with hands off, in any force-trimmed position, that the stick remains centered as that will be critical for the H145/H160 to operate correctly. (adaptive recentering will help here)

Feel free to hit me up in DM and we can discuss further.

exil35•11/4/23, 4:30 PM

Also feel free to hit me up anytime. Once all is set up it's pretty much fire and forget.

RimanDk•11/5/23, 9:37 PM

Hi, I'm working through some ideas and prototypes for a physical "quick swap" installation on my aluminium profile rig. I don't have a cut out in my seat, so getting the stick as close to me as possible is a priority.

In that context, my rhino came with a power brick with a straight cord that sticks out a whole 5cm from the back. It's highly impractical. For me not to bend it, I have to design a mount that gives it that room as a minimum, at which point I might as well flip the damned thing, because the stick will be the same distance away from me.

I have seen a screenshot of a rhino with an angled power connector. Is this a known mod? I would like to get my hands on one.

Alternatively, is it possible to mount the rhino "sideways" and swap x and y axis in the software? (I haven't really gotten to the software part yet...)

jubuttib•11/6/23, 12:47 AM

Quick question, since I'm preparing to get a kit later on for my own build: The faq says the control board can supply up to 30 amps to the motors, is this enough for the higher torque options (86BLF3/4) to reach their full potential?

Fwiw my design idea isn't necessarily to make a super powered version, just one with extra headroom and reduced heating.