Hello guys, Does anyone fly Mi-24 in DCS and have some good settings for Rhino? I can not find so g

Hello guys,
Does anyone fly Mi-24 in DCS and have some good settings for Rhino? I can not find so goods settings for me. Maybe when I see another settings I will find something for me

AndrutOP•11/19/23, 5:25 PM

I use also TeleFFB but I think there are not so many effects for Mi-24, or I do something wrong

AAndrut Hello guys, Does anyone fly Mi-24 in DCS and have some good settings for Rhino?...

Number481•11/19/23, 5:39 PM

What isn't working how you want it? There isn't anything in the way of flight forces feedback in a helicopter cyclic. FFB is pretty much limited to force trim (see conversation directly above). FFB Force Trim is implemented natively in DCS. Just adjust the spring and dapmen forces in VPforce configurator to your liking. TelemFFB is only used to add haptic effects like engine/rotor rumble, gunfire, damage effect, etc. etc.

AndrutOP•11/19/23, 5:41 PM

Ok, so basic stetting is only damper and spring for heli, right? Or do you use another options with heli also?

AndrutOP•11/19/23, 5:42 PM

TelemFFB at this moment add effect only during damages or taxing, during shooting is nothing, engine also, I fly olny MI-24, maybe for Mi-24 is not implemented

AndrutOP•11/19/23, 5:42 PM

I found some settings for me, Spring around 15-20%, and damper for 70% but maybe someone has better setting, so I wanted to check it how someone else use available effects

AAndrut I found some settings for me, Spring around 15-20%, and damper for 70% but maybe...

Number481•11/19/23, 5:45 PM

For me, personally, I keep the spring at %100. It should be hard to move the cyclic unless you are holding down the force trim button. I keep damper around %20 just to give a little hydraulic feeling.. you dont want any high forces since you need to be able to make very microsopic adjustments.

AndrutOP•11/19/23, 5:45 PM

I will check it

AndrutOP•11/19/23, 5:45 PM

Thanks a lot

AAndrut TelemFFB at this moment add effect only during damages or taxing, during shootin...

Number481•11/19/23, 5:47 PM

All of the effects I mentioned (and more) should work with the Mi-24. The periodic effect slider in VPforce configurator controls the maximum intensity for any of these types of effects (usually keep at %50). There are individual intensity settings for all of these effects in the TelemFFB configuration file.

AndrutOP•11/19/23, 5:50 PM

What about effect of Instant trim mode? When I keep cyclic in position, I click trim and I ffb move the cyclic again, like in DCS when you use joy without ffb. In instant trim you have to fast go to neutral position to avoid it. How to minimalize it with FFB?

AAndrut What about effect of Instant trim mode? When I keep cyclic in position, I click ...

Number481•11/19/23, 5:59 PM

Make sure you have FFB enabled in DCS settings.

AndrutOP•11/19/23, 5:59 PM

I have, checked it

Number481•11/19/23, 6:10 PM

If you have Force Feedback enabled in the DCS Misc. settings, and you have the helicopter trimmer set to Instant/default, it behaves differently than the same instant/default setting with a non-FFB joystick.

With non-FFB, as you say, you instantly get double input and need to return it to center. With FFB, that does not happen.

PPoor Yurik Interesting. I will definitely look thru my binds today.

Reed•11/19/23, 9:41 PM

Check thumbsticks on controllers and vr controllers. I had the exact issue and it was a double bind in the axis x,y.

RReed Check thumbsticks on controllers and vr controllers. I had the exact issue and i...

Poor Yurik•11/20/23, 12:47 AM

Ended up just being me completely misunderstanding the intended behavior of a helicopter's cyclic. @Number481 fully explained it above. I'm all set now and loving it now that I'm not fighting how it works based on my former pre-ffb understanding of what to expect.

PPoor Yurik Ended up just being me completely misunderstanding the intended behavior of a he...

Reed•11/20/23, 3:52 AM

Excellent

silverphinex•11/20/23, 6:22 AM

I know it's a low priority but is there a way to get the RGB on the virpil constellation prime lit up with the rhino

356thFS_Piranha•11/20/23, 6:47 AM

After doing the auto calibrate my stick wants to settle far forward when playing IL2 and the only way I can bring it to center is to adjust the FFB X and Y axes. Can anyone tell me why or how to adjust it to center by using the auto calibrate or is this normal behavior?

3356thFS_Piranha After doing the auto calibrate my stick wants to settle far forward when playing...

PiNKSH!T•11/20/23, 6:48 AM

sry does the stick rest forward when the plane is 'cold & dark'

PiNKSH!T•11/20/23, 6:48 AM

but move to center when you start up & throttle a bit?

Ssilverphinex I know it's a low priority but is there a way to get the RGB on the virpil const...

amadeus•11/20/23, 8:40 AM

Currently RGB isn’t supported at the moment, it’s mostly dependent on Walmis reverse engineering an existing Virpil base

3356thFS_Piranha After doing the auto calibrate my stick wants to settle far forward when playing...

walmis•11/20/23, 9:29 AM

Are you using an asymetrical throw limiter?

356thFS_Piranha•11/20/23, 5:01 PM

The stick is loose when plan is cold and dark., but when the plane starts it settles forward of center when straight and level flight. After I adjusted the X and Y axes its close to center. Without the game running and the axes adjusted manually and with the stick on it settles just aft of center. It's game related. I only have tried it in IL2, so I don't know if it's the same for other games. I have no idea what a asymetrical throw limiter is so I don't think I'm using one.

356thFS_Piranha•11/20/23, 5:16 PM

Also when I switch to auto pilot and have auto calibrated the stick moves to the center position and when i take it out of auto pilot it again moves forward and the planes nose drops.

3356thFS_Piranha The stick is loose when plan is cold and dark., but when the plane starts it set...

Number481•11/20/23, 5:26 PM

Which aircraft in IL-2 and, is this with or without TelemFFB? I noticed, while writing the telemetry module for TelemFFB, that IL-2 tends to do some really weird things with FFB in some of the aircraft

356thFS_Piranha•11/20/23, 7:02 PM

It's with all the aircraft. Not using TelemFFB

Sleepy81•11/20/23, 10:13 PM

My order number is coming up!

i have gotten the email asking me to fill in the Google form, where I ordered the Rhino, and I have chosen PayPal as payment but have not received any message to pay yet. Does that usually take a while?

3356thFS_Piranha After doing the auto calibrate my stick wants to settle far forward when playing...

Number481•11/21/23, 1:41 AM

Just to let you know, you aren't crazy. Just verified I see the same thing with IL-2. I do not recall it doing this the last time I fired it up... suggest you submit a bug report to IL-2, if such a mechanism exists on their forums.

356thFS_Piranha•11/21/23, 5:04 AM

OK,

356thFS_Piranha•11/21/23, 5:05 AM

I have a squad mate who has the VP Force but he doesn't seeo this behavior in IL2.

356thFS_Piranha•11/21/23, 5:05 AM

It's strange.

356thFS_Piranha•11/24/23, 7:12 AM

Should you or can you use both the VP configurator and windows game controller to calibrate the joystick?

Scotia•11/24/23, 8:13 AM

I need to put in an order for a replacement vkb adapter. How do I do that?

3356thFS_Piranha Should you or can you use both the VP configurator and windows game controller t...

amadeus•11/24/23, 8:24 AM

With the rhino, never use the windows game controller calibrator

slowmover•11/24/23, 3:49 PM

why this windows stays all time open here? i can not click X

Number481•11/24/23, 3:50 PM

because microsoft edge is a cancer

Number481•11/24/23, 3:52 PM

you can try disabling it in the edge settings.. but its %50/50 whether it honors that setting or not, in my experience...

slowmover•11/24/23, 3:54 PM

thanks mate

356thFS_Piranha•11/24/23, 4:19 PM

Thanks

Minimanzack•11/24/23, 4:51 PM

I just hooked up my Rhino to a winwing F18 stick using the winwing adapter. All buttons work except the trim hat. That is; the button works but right/left/up/down does not register. Any ideas? Thanks in advance