think of it as git for your whole OS when you update, it has to download the new image then "git reb

think of it as git for your whole OS
when you update, it has to download the new image then "git rebase" all your installed applications onto the new image

in layman terms it essentially "re-installs" the programs installed with rpm-ostree with each new update to the base system

CChaiQi I don't have a deck, but passwordless login on my laptop made me enter my passwo...

Deleted User•12/12/23, 4:00 PM

When using kde I just deleted kwallet and that solved the problem but I don't know what I can delete to resolve this on gnome

RRodoMa92 Nope, select

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:05 PM

Three lines button isn't doing the trick

HHikariKnight think of it as git for your whole OS when you update, it has to download the new...

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:05 PM

Damn. There's some essential apps I need from rpm-ostree that I can't modify any other way

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:06 PM

then keep them as rpm-ostree, we are just warning you so you dont install everything with rpm-ostree and get a system that takes hours to update

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:07 PM

or get into a situation where it breaks updates in general until you uninstall the packages that stops it from updating (imagine how fun that will be with 300+ layered packages if you went that crazy

)

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:08 PM

I tried getting gphoto2 working through nix but I couldn't get nix to work too reliably sadly

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:09 PM

yeah if neither nix or distrobox does it for you then rpm-ostree is the last resort which is why we call it last resort

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:09 PM

main point is to avoid people going straight to layering the package they want when it might not be neccessary

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:10 PM

Well, if one layers 300 packages maybe it's best to setup a custom image

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:10 PM

And let GitHub fix all of that

ZZelaf Well, if one layers 300 packages maybe it's best to setup a custom image

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:11 PM

yep, but not everyone here is willing to do that, some are rather new and just want to use the system normally.

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:12 PM

With 300 extra packages?

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:12 PM

it was an example

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:12 PM

I know haha, would be fun tho

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:12 PM

a newbie might not know it and just go "oh i will just rpm-ostree to install all my programs"

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:12 PM

Lemme just install the entirety of gnome stack on top of KDE

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:13 PM

https://tenor.com/view/eww-god-no-nasty-gross-disgusting-gif-17172294

Tenor

Frozen•12/12/23, 4:13 PM

Is there any way to get the installer to show up only on the external monitor of a docked Deck?

FFrozen Is there any way to get the installer to show up *only* on the external monitor ...

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:15 PM

dont think so, unless your decks usb mode is set to DRD in the bios, then you should set it to XHCI instead as i think we are still waiting for DRD support to be added to the kernel upstream

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:15 PM

only thing i can think of if installing through the dock using a monitor is supported

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:16 PM

not sure if it is though as i dont run bazzite on the deck

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:16 PM

Is DRD better than XHCI?

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:17 PM

DRD is dual role device, it supports things like OTG

Frozen•12/12/23, 4:17 PM

I used an external monitor installing bazzite on my OG Deck. Editing the boot command to 1920x1080 worked. I couldn't read anything on the Deck screen, obviously, lol, but the monitor worked fine.

But doing the same doesn't work for the OLED Deck. I set it to 1920x1080 and changed the tag from :39 to :testing, and when the installer comes up, it's spread out across both screens and completely unusable, lol.

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:18 PM

XHCI is what has been standard and most normal throughout the life of usb3

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:18 PM

Is there supposed to be 4 entries on grub? I see two versions of Linux and ostree:0 and ostree:1 on both

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:18 PM

OTG is a specific thing?

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:18 PM

Thought it was just a name for a type of design

ZZelaf OTG is a specific thing?

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:19 PM

OTG is on the go, think of it as the ability to mount 1 computer disk that is on, onto another computer that is on using an usb cable, assuming the computer youre connecting supports DRD

CChaiQi It does, the disclaimer that it's not officially supported means "do it at your ...

Keith( Beat Quest Games)•12/12/23, 4:20 PM

No problem. I'm installing on a fresh PC that doesn't have anything important. I've done this a lot

Keith( Beat Quest Games)•12/12/23, 4:20 PM

Only keeping windows around since I want to try The Finals

Keith( Beat Quest Games)•12/12/23, 4:21 PM

Worst come to worse I'll just wipe windows and try it later

ZZelaf Thought it was just a name for a type of design

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:21 PM

kinda is, if a device supports DRD it can act like your phone does when you connect it to the pc
do you want to charge, transfer files or transfer media? etc

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:23 PM

however DRD support is not in the fedora kernel yet i believe, so XHCI mode is the only one supported, and a recent bios update to the steamdeck changed the default usb mode from XHCI to DRD

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:25 PM

That's why that has been weird

DDeleted User When using kde I just deleted kwallet and that solved the problem but I don't kn...

ChaiQi•12/12/23, 4:27 PM

Usually, deleting kwallet is what causes that problem

KKeith( Beat Quest Games)No problem. I'm installing on a fresh PC that doesn't have anything important. I...

ChaiQi•12/12/23, 4:28 PM

Should be fine then I think

ZZelaf That's why that has been weird

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:29 PM

yeah atm DRD causes a lot of weird issues in bazzite like docks not working

Frozen•12/12/23, 4:30 PM

Seems like the installer doesn't respect the resolution coming from grub? The OLED display is vertically oriented, apparently, so I changed the resolution from 1280x800 to 1200x1920 (just to see if it would show the whole installer) and it didn't change anything.

FFrozen Seems like the installer doesn't respect the resolution coming from grub? The OL...

matt_schwartz•12/12/23, 4:37 PM

I had to install in basic graphics mode on my OLED

matt_schwartz•12/12/23, 4:37 PM

it’ll still be vertical but the sizing is usable

matt_schwartz•12/12/23, 4:38 PM

Otherwise the installer window was massive and I could only see a tiny part of it

Frozen•12/12/23, 4:39 PM

Yeah, same problem. Alright, I'll give that a shot.

HHikariKnight yeah atm DRD causes a lot of weird issues in bazzite like docks not working

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:43 PM

Yea, my keyboard and mouse refused to until I changed it

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:44 PM

It was curiously changed back when installing Bazzite from Nobara

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:45 PM

So is there supposed to be that many boot options in grub for Bazzite? Got 4, two for an older version and one of each has either ostree:1 or ostree:0

ZZelaf So is there supposed to be that many boot options in grub for Bazzite? Got 4, tw...

HikariKnightOP•12/12/23, 4:47 PM

its a bug i believe that causes grub to duplicate the 2 ostree entries, just ignore it

Zelaf•12/12/23, 4:47 PM

Acuma•12/12/23, 5:02 PM

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is there any point in converting "home" from ext3 to BTRFS on Bazzite?

Kyle Gospo•12/12/23, 5:03 PM

You'd gain zstd compression from doing that, which helps with performance too

think of it as git for your whole OS when you update, it has to download the new image then "git reb

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