Hey there, merry Xmas to you all🎄! Anyone here (preferably DE/EU) fancy to jump the line on a brand

Hey there, merry Xmas to you all

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Anyone here (preferably DE/EU) fancy to jump the line on a brand new and unused rhino base + mounting plate?
Due to unforeseen circumstances I won't be able to use it any time soon, but it's already in transit (since thursday, so I expect it'll probably arrive sometime next week).
If you're interested, just pm me...

BBuzzteeBear Hey there, merry Xmas to you all🎄! Anyone here (preferably DE/EU) fancy to jump...

RetroGamer•12/24/23, 6:09 PM

intrested

Jon (Bounty_V)•12/24/23, 7:37 PM

6 dof would be a dream

Bob Bushman•12/24/23, 10:04 PM

I would personally settle for a diy throttle at this point

Bob Bushman•12/24/23, 10:04 PM

Or maybe an ffb collective

BBob Bushman I would personally settle for a diy throttle at this point

Fierce_Fire•12/24/23, 10:09 PM

Time to take one apart

BBob Bushman Or maybe an ffb collective🤔

Jehly•12/24/23, 11:15 PM

This is my next goal

Bob Bushman•12/24/23, 11:19 PM

Not sure if I'd expect more from it than simply holding position, which be doable with clutches but could be "sticky"

Jehly•12/25/23, 4:25 AM

I believe it will also shake

Will3D•12/25/23, 4:37 AM

Would be fun during hydraulic failure!

NNumber481 I published my as built on GitHub. https://github.com/Number481/VirpilACE-VPForc...

Pikas62•12/25/23, 8:39 AM

I'm already on it to order a VPC ACE

. Before I press the trigger, what effects are supported by the Sims for Rudder Pedals? However, force trim in DCS would be enough for me.

DDuraCell How is Rhino compared to msffb2? Curently using msffb2 and it works great in dc...

DofMan1234•12/25/23, 9:44 AM

Nicely put "Not even in the same league"....

I've been using my sidewinder FF for many years now and it used to be really good, but despite having the paid versions of xpForce for FS2020 and XPlane, I've never been able to get it to work with either, it just jerks forward in one second pulses. I tried emailing the author, but never got any replies.
The Rhino however, blew my socks off when I first used it !

No comparison really. It just feels like a real plane, pulling back on the elevators while sitting on the runway, and feeling the effort reduce as you reve the engine and increase the airflow over them.

PPikas62 I'm already on it to order a VPC ACE😀. Before I press the trigger, what effects...

Number481•12/25/23, 11:52 AM

📃general

OOphelia If it keeps up the way it is... I'm gonna have mine for my birthday next year, I...

mark turner•12/25/23, 12:19 PM

You will love it, best piece of kit you can buy, end of!

NNumber481 https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/965234441511383083/1176241067176...

Pikas62•12/25/23, 12:40 PM

Thx Number481

! Stupid question. Does Helicopter even have a Force Trim for the rudder, like the Cyclic Stick?

PPikas62 Thx Number481👍! Stupid question. Does Helicopter even have a Force Trim for the...

Pikas62•12/25/23, 2:18 PM

Yes, they obviously have: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/296561-is-there-rudder-trim-on-the-real-apache/

ED Forums

Is there Rudder trim on the real Apache?

The Apache is the first module where the "Rudder trimmer" option is more then a checkbox in special options. I wondered if the Rudder in the real chopper is also trimmed to a new center position when using the Force Trim Release button?

Fr4Ged•12/25/23, 2:23 PM

first of all there is no rudder in a helo.

certain helos have pedal trim. certainly the more modern ones.
in DCS most of the helos do have pedal trim.

Pikas62•12/25/23, 2:29 PM

True. Thanks for the correction

Number481•12/25/23, 2:31 PM

Very few helicopters do. Unfortunately in DCS the “FFB” settings for the pedal trimmers does not behave properly when enabled. Why they even have the setting, IDK since DCS doesn’t even support FFB pedals. But…if it behaved properly, it might be possible to emulate moving pedals with autopilot.

NNumber481 Very few helicopters do. Unfortunately in DCS the “FFB” settings for the peda...

Pikas62•12/25/23, 2:40 PM

Thanks! Good to know. A force trim function that workes properly in DCS with a helicopter would have been the most important reason to invest the money and work in a rudder mod for me. You saved me money and time!

PPikas62 Thanks! Good to know. A force trim function that workes properly in DCS with a h...

Number481•12/25/23, 2:49 PM

the reality of it is though, that once the pedals automatically switch between spring and no-spring mode.. you don't really need force trim for the pedals. No, the pedals won't move with autopilot, and no, they won't move with pedal trim input, but they stay where you put them.

Jump into a FW aircraft though, and they are back to having springs..

But if you only fly helos and have a damper mod on your pedals.. you won't gain much today by moving to FFB pedals (even though the dampening is superior to a motorcycle sterring damper)

NNumber481 the reality of it is though, that once the pedals automatically switch between s...

Pikas62•12/25/23, 3:08 PM

Hm, those are a few good arguments for FFB rudder pedals. This makes me thinking again

AndyHill•12/25/23, 4:28 PM

For me just the feel in general and excellent damping specifically are reasons enough to have ffb on everything

AndyHill•12/25/23, 4:28 PM

then again I would appreciate a throttle that starts to creep forward whenever my own courage starts to fail

NNumber481 I published my as built on GitHub. https://github.com/Number481/VirpilACE-VPForc...

Pikas62•12/25/23, 9:54 PM

The main pulley, the gear arm / gear mounting plate and, as you have already described, the throw limiter are probably the elements from 3D printing with the highest load. What material, process and filling level did you use to have this made?

PPikas62 The main pulley, the gear arm / gear mounting plate and, as you have already des...

Number481•12/25/23, 9:57 PM

I printed everything with PLA+, 4 walls, %40 infill.

Pikas62•12/25/23, 9:58 PM

Thank you for the lightning-fast reply!

Number481•12/25/23, 9:59 PM

I pretty much use PLA for everything when I want raw strength and I’m not concerned about temps.

Pikas62•12/25/23, 10:02 PM

Thx a lot! Btw I have already ordered the VPC Ace

Naudiz•12/26/23, 2:07 PM

Anyone here fiddled with a hybrid simracing/flightsim setup?

Naudiz•12/26/23, 2:07 PM

I feel like the Rhino would not fit in particularly well on my Ikea office chair

FlatSpin•12/26/23, 2:38 PM

yes

FFlatSpin yes

Naudiz•12/26/23, 2:57 PM

How did it turn out? Have any pics of it?

sabreman•12/26/23, 5:35 PM

Just got my rhino, it's incredible

sabreman•12/26/23, 5:36 PM

Now I just need a mount lol

sabreman•12/26/23, 5:36 PM

Aaaaaaand it's also making me want to mode my pedals to be FFB

NNaudiz Anyone here fiddled with a hybrid simracing/flightsim setup?

MashedPotato•12/26/23, 5:56 PM

Currently using a gen3 openwheeler setup. Only have flight atm, but considering breaking in to racing in 2024. Their rigs can be set up to (relatively) quick swap between multiple setups

Jon (Bounty_V)•12/26/23, 6:42 PM

I'm still building my hybrid setup

Jon (Bounty_V)•12/26/23, 6:42 PM

It's basically done I'm just lazy to do the final bit (also there's some other modifications I want to do that'll have to wait until after tax season)

Bob Bushman•12/26/23, 7:20 PM

Got my tracking number almost a week ago, and ao far no movement

Granted most of that time has been holidays so

Wwalmis I'll provide kits with the necessary stuff to mount the FFB kit on the MFG. Only...

DoCBarT•12/26/23, 8:34 PM

Also interested

MMashedPotato Currently using a gen3 openwheeler setup. Only have flight atm, but considering ...

Naudiz•12/26/23, 9:31 PM

@bounty_v How did you guys handle the pedal situation?

FlatSpin•12/26/23, 9:33 PM

two mounting plates

NNaudiz @bounty_v How did you guys handle the pedal situation?

MashedPotato•12/26/23, 9:56 PM

Once I actually do it, I'm going to get a second pedal plate/bar for the racing setup.

Naudiz•12/26/23, 9:57 PM

And just change them out by hand when needed?

NNaudiz @bounty_v How did you guys handle the pedal situation?

Jon (Bounty_V)•12/26/23, 10:18 PM

if you search messages from me that contain images I have shared some pics of different iterations of my build, might give you an idea idk

Jon (Bounty_V)•12/26/23, 10:20 PM

I plan to invert my racing pedals and raise them higher than they currently are (I have rudder pedals mounted on a frame I added to the bottom of my cockpit underneath the racing pedals, then I just slide the racing pedal plate backwards to use them) so that I have access to both at once, but since it is entirely DIY with no real reference I'll basically need to get every part cut to custom lengths and figure out every piece I need.

I also plan to modify left cockpit arm that will mount my throttle and control panel into a door so I can open and close that for easier access to sitting down.

Lastly, I plan to diy some sort of floor shroud around my center mounted Rhino base so I don't accidently hit it with my shoes getting in and out

Jon (Bounty_V)•12/26/23, 10:21 PM

Since all of that will end up being a decent amount of money ($200+) I'm waiting until after April to pull the trigger

JJon (Bounty_V)I plan to invert my racing pedals and raise them higher than they currently are ...

Naudiz•12/26/23, 11:18 PM

I wonder if it's possible to construct some sort of sliding system to change the pedal sets easily, but it may be more inconvenient than not

Jon (Bounty_V)•12/26/23, 11:20 PM

There's someone who figured that out it's just more DIY than I personally have the capacity to accomplish

Jon (Bounty_V)•12/26/23, 11:20 PM

they built 2 pedal mounts and held them in place with magnets etc.