WGot it, thx and sorry.
Rits no problem man
Walmost 1000 
Fto think that when i got here it was around 400 or so...
Oit'll probably come down. a lot of people don't go through with their purchase. mine was 679 and is now 590
Fiirc something like half the reservations don't actually end up buying the Rhino
Pwent from #245 to #3 in two months so the list moves pretty quickly and they've increased production capacity recently I believe
Oi have a dedicated vpforce slushfund for the surprise you can order now eventuality
Ogotta be ready to pull that trigger 
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SMy Rhino is finally unboxed now I’m home from working abroad. First impressions, packaging very good, no damage whatsoever, build quality? Absolutely top-notch, especially for such a small team etc, feels fantastic. Now to anxiously await the arrival of a grip etc to use it!!
D100% agree, the boxing was very well done. The unit itself looks fantastic, even got a comment today from a non-simmer that it looks "very expensive, very professional". Not sure if this is really a thing, but the easiest base I have ever connected a grip to. Sometimes it can be a little difficult lining up the holes and pins, it was for my previous bases, but this was stupid easy to do. I am one that has a separate joystick base for every grip, the Rhino is so easy to change out, I will end up getting another grip to use for the A-10/F-4/Warbirds.
SI know I won't be going through my Rhino purchase because I elected to do the DIY route.
TDefinitely a very good route! I wish I would have all these skills!
SI learned to machine and built a workshop because I wanted to build a live steam Locomotive. Needless to say, I've done everything else
SAdd a FFB stick to it.
MHi Everyone, I have a quick question. Does the VPforce Rhino work with War Thunder? The game has a Force Feedback option; It’s free to play so if anyone already knows the answer or is willing to find out I’d be greatly appreciative!
SI'm planing to use a shipping forwarder service, where is does the Rhino get shipped from?
WLithuania
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SThe rhino fits on my existing desk mounts! Didnt even need any modification
BWould likely want bracing to the floor anyway, put some force on it during use and it will cause a lot of force to planted onto that table top.
If it had been a 2" hardwood bench top, fine.
But that looks like 10mm and with that I wouldn't be surprised if it didnt rip a hole in your desk.
If it had been a 2" hardwood bench top, fine.
But that looks like 10mm and with that I wouldn't be surprised if it didnt rip a hole in your desk.
SIt’ll do for now. This is a temp setup as I’m mid way through a move to Germany. In Germany I’ll be building a dedicated 80:20 rig for this so i can use the extension etc too
SI’ll just keep it relatively turned down for noww
SI’m impatient so i gave it a brief try with the F14 in dcs and OH my god
SI will never fly without FFB again
BYup, makes my warbrd seem poorly in comparison.
At first i tested it out on mu desk just make sure it worked. And just that playing around with it for 10 seconds.
I wanted another..
Just using the trim feature for a lefty stick space thing would have been amazeballs.
At first i tested it out on mu desk just make sure it worked. And just that playing around with it for 10 seconds.
I wanted another..
Just using the trim feature for a lefty stick space thing would have been amazeballs.
SI just need to wait for my grip to arrive!
SHahah just another year wait :p
BIf I was i think I'd take a stab at a diy kit.
And I actually don't play any space games anymore.
And I actually don't play any space games anymore.
SId like to give DIY-ing it a try out of a sheer curiousity and want to learn about making it myself, and maybe making a few customisations
BConsidering my current use case I should do a collective first 
FSo I'm 22 away right now and the anticipation is killing me. What's the biggest part of the "OH my god" moment when you started using it with the F14??? 
STry the P51 and stall the airplane and feel the control loading change
HThe subtle things are really what make FFB special. In Heatblur modules, it's usually wing stall that grabs you. Not gaudy telemetry effects.
BI don't fly the F14, but the P-51D... firing up that engine and feeling the stick shake and come to life... it's a game changer.
SJust instantly feeling CONNECTED to the plane, like it didnt just feel like a spring. And then the wing buffet in a turn and being able to actually turn without excessive G because i can feel where the limits for the plane are
BTo me the biggest "aha" was trim.
With a spring stick you pull, guess at trim, release a little, guess again and release a little repeat.
With this you just put the stick where it needs be, trim. It stops fighting and the pressure just eases up, keep the stick where it's needed and when your trimmed it stays there.
No need for guessing, just one move and done.
With a spring stick you pull, guess at trim, release a little, guess again and release a little repeat.
With this you just put the stick where it needs be, trim. It stops fighting and the pressure just eases up, keep the stick where it's needed and when your trimmed it stays there.
No need for guessing, just one move and done.
TI have a clutch/spingless base for my stick, and the autohover modes with the apache are a nightmare compared to a normal spring with trimming ... how does the VPForce handle it?
RHave you tried spins from high altitude?
FWhen you hold trim release, there are no spring forces acting on the stick, and when you release the trim release button that position of the stick becomes the new spring center. This helps immensely with flying as you can use the stick as if it is springless when maneuvering but trim and do something else when flying long distances.
FAttitude trim also allows me to get a 100% stable hover within max 1 minute of getting lower than 20kts airspeed, and just a few seconds when in the 10kts range
FAdmittedly I am comparing a ~40cm extension to vkb gladiator so your improvements may vary
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FNote here that I made my own system with max motors, but you should get the same force with between 10 and 20cm additional extension, keep in mind the rhino feels like it has 10cm built in
BI don't feel the need for an extension, just wish it was 10cm closer
FSounds like you need Virpil z extension or 3d print
FBenefit of my insane extension is it wraps around my chair so I don't need a cut out
FI do wanna try and reduce it a little bit, see what this monster can really do
BWas tempted to try the z extension, but so far gotten most of the way with just a cushion