Anybody happened to have got both VP-Joystick and VP-Pedal FFB working on Condor2? I'm getting contr

Anybody happened to have got both VP-Joystick and VP-Pedal FFB working on Condor2? I'm getting control input for both Joystick and Pedal working, however, only one can get the FFB effect. 90% at time the joystick gets FFB, sometimes the Pedal gets FFB. The issue well might be on Condor side, I'm just wondering if anyone have got both working simultaneously.

RR7-Cedar Anybody happened to have got both VP-Joystick and VP-Pedal FFB working on Condor...

Number481•2/7/24, 10:58 PM

If I had to guess, the sim most likely has no concept of FFB on the rudder axis. FFB pedals are extremely rare and there has never anything remotely resembling “affordable” pedals (talking in terms of ms sidewinder land). It’s unlikely the devs would develop support without gear to test against.

NNumber481 If I had to guess, the sim most likely has no concept of FFB on the rudder axis....

R7-CedarOP•2/8/24, 3:10 AM

I guess the same, or the Condor2 may not be anticipating two FFB devices to work with at same time. I wish the FFB pedal was not this rare. It's been some 25 years since the last time I played the MS Combat Flight Simulator with the Sidewinder FFB (1st model). I'm so happy I've got the VPforce FFB setup. Somebody has mentioned about this awesome FFB solution in the Condor2 forum so I'm hoping their devs will look into this rare but existing(and growing I'd like to assume)demand someday.

Lei•2/8/24, 1:01 PM

Finally got the Winwing adapter but it’s shaking and cannot be secured. How can I fix that? I saw a post suggesting rubber washer earlier but not sure if it’s same problem

Vulcan•2/8/24, 1:26 PM

Have you tried mounting the winwing grip directly to the adapter to see if the issue is just when using the winwing extension?

LLei Finally got the Winwing adapter but it’s shaking and cannot be secured. How can ...

walmis•2/8/24, 1:32 PM

Looks to me like it's not threaded fully

Bob Bushman•2/8/24, 1:33 PM

Yeah, that was beyond loose.

Lei•2/8/24, 1:36 PM

You are right . After a few try it tightened properly.

Fer•2/8/24, 2:52 PM

You need to put a washer on it

Fer•2/8/24, 2:53 PM

I had the same issue and solved with that

FFer You need to put a washer on it

Lei•2/8/24, 5:10 PM

I saw your video first but then after several tries it works pretty okay now without washer. Now just need to find a mounting solution. It’s very tall with the adapter and extension so I might as well somehow fixed it on the floor

LLei I saw your video first but then after several tries it works pretty okay now wit...

Tinman•2/8/24, 5:56 PM

Does the Winwing grip need the software or does a generic profile work for it?

Lei•2/8/24, 5:57 PM

In the VP configuration tool you can select Winwing adapter for the grip. Not sure what it does because generic grip seems to have worked anyway. But bottom line is, it works just fine with Rhino

BBrizzly I am trying to setup my new Rhino with my Realsimulator F-16 grip. Right now, I...

Bozo VFA-86•2/8/24, 5:58 PM

Any luck? I will be trying the same in a few months.

BBozo VFA-86 Any luck? I will be trying the same in a few months.

Brizzly•2/8/24, 9:45 PM

No luck yet. Useable since I’ve been assigning buttons via the BLE portion of the grip, but still nothing registering on the Rhino itself with that particular grip

walmis•2/9/24, 5:28 AM

I know a few RS users that successfully use their grips, so this instance is kinda strange. Since the grip receives power and BLE works fine, I assume the connection is good with the grip.

LLei I saw your video first but then after several tries it works pretty okay now wit...

ddrake1984•2/9/24, 8:05 AM

Needs washer, you don’t want to over tighten

LLei I saw your video first but then after several tries it works pretty okay now wit...

PiNKSH!T•2/9/24, 8:48 AM

A plywood sheet 10-15mm (depth) that's big enough for your seat to sit on with the Rhino mounted in front, you can even have it big enough to go under your desk & have rudder pedals sit on top too. Just measure where the Rhino will go drill the 4 holes & put some small bolts in from what will be the bottom & then once in place you can bolt the Rhino in place on the "floor" right in front of your chair.

PPiNKSH!T A plywood sheet 10-15mm (depth) that's big enough for your seat to sit on with t...

Lei•2/9/24, 9:53 AM

Thanks for the suggestion, I just finished a quick and dirty version (Just drilled 4 screws into a piece of plywood and placed in front of the seat) works perfectly fine.

LLei Thanks for the suggestion, I just finished a quick and dirty version (Just d...

PiNKSH!T•2/9/24, 9:56 AM

nice works well

Rob EB•2/9/24, 2:27 PM

@walmis
FFB Configurator
Spring Gain Map Graph Appears to be Reversed
When adjusting the spring map, the graph adjusts the gain in the opposite sense to the axis movement displayed. In the attached image the position of each axis as indicated should result in the mapped spring gain. However, the gain is as mapped for the opposite direction. In this example, the gain is zero for the indicated postions but follows the map when moved in the opposite direction.

My Rhino Y-axis is inverted (e-stop facing forward). X-axis is not inverted but the direction of movement displays in the map graph and in the display on the settings tab as expected.

RRAFFT Hey guy I just put the Winwing F18 stick on the VPforce with the winwing adapter...

Isimus•2/9/24, 2:43 PM

Same ting to me. I have just mounted a Winwing F18 stick with the winwing adapter and is not recognizing the trim switches. Have you managed to make it work? Anybody else has the same issue?

IIsimus Same ting to me. I have just mounted a Winwing F18 stick with the winwing adapte...

walmis•2/9/24, 2:51 PM

Did you change the profile to WinWing adapter?

RRob EB @walmis FFB Configurator **Spring Gain Map Graph Appears to be Reversed** When ...

walmis•2/9/24, 2:51 PM

Thanks, I will make sure to correct this in the new version

Wwalmis Did you change the profile to WinWing adapter?

Isimus•2/9/24, 4:17 PM

Done, now is recognized. Thanks

Isimus•2/9/24, 4:19 PM

Wwalmis Thanks, I will make sure to correct this in the new version

amadeus•2/10/24, 7:42 PM

new version you say? :blobsmirk:

Boeing757sim•2/11/24, 2:43 PM

Hi , any suggestions on how to update the firmware, getting this error @walmis

Boeing757sim•2/11/24, 2:48 PM

Windows 11, tried with Edge, chrome no luck

walmis•2/11/24, 2:50 PM

Hi, try this: 🧰support

Boeing757sim•2/11/24, 4:09 PM

I did try that once, will try again tomorrow after a re-boot

Boeing757sim•2/12/24, 6:45 AM

@walmis It’s updated, thanks a lot

tmz•2/12/24, 12:03 PM

Hi! I'm encountering a strange behavior on my Rhino, occurs with both aircraft I tried this morning (DCS Tomcat and Hornet). It's almost like effects from TelemFFB are full force, but I get no resistance (compared to yesterday) when pushing/pulling the stick. Would this ring a bell? I did not remember modifying the settings since yesterday, tried unplugging both USB and power brick. Pot is 100% and set to Master Gain.

Ttmz Hi! I'm encountering a strange behavior on my Rhino, occurs with both aircraft I...

walmis•2/12/24, 12:32 PM

Can you show you configurator settings? Did you run telemFFB during these tests ? Is the spring ok when out of the sim ?

Wwalmis Can you show you configurator settings? Did you run telemFFB during these tests ...

tmz•2/12/24, 12:33 PM

Spring is typically OK only in the sim, not really a spring effect out of the sim

walmis•2/12/24, 12:34 PM

It's not connected

tmz•2/12/24, 12:34 PM

Sorry

tmz•2/12/24, 12:34 PM

Just realized that after posting

tmz•2/12/24, 12:35 PM

tmz•2/12/24, 12:35 PM

walmis•2/12/24, 12:37 PM

Try importing the default Rhino configuration in

configs/Rhino-defaults.vpconf

configs/Rhino-defaults.vpconf

tmz•2/12/24, 12:51 PM

Works like out of the box, didn't realize that the defaults file was there, thanks!

tmz•2/12/24, 12:51 PM

Actually just turned on TelemFFB, and without it, spring effect, with it no spring effect

Ttmz Actually just turned on TelemFFB, and without it, spring effect, with it no spri...

Number481•2/12/24, 1:30 PM

Are you loading any vpconf profile via TelemFFB? It doesn’t do anything to affect the spring forces on the joystick axis in DCS.

tmz•2/12/24, 1:35 PM

OK, just found it on the TelemFFB KB, it is this issue : https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1093558100713279508/1203549616189214784

tmz•2/12/24, 1:35 PM

No joy with vJoy, disabled it and it works!

Anthony•2/13/24, 2:53 AM

The WinWing adapter, can that be used on Virpil’s extensions?

I’m considering a WW stick, but with my current setup I can’t really do without the VPC Z extension, hence the question.

Anthony•2/13/24, 2:56 AM

So it’d be:

WW grip
+
WW adapter
+
VPC Z extension
+
Rhino

(Best way I can describe it without a poor attempt at using MS Paint)

RRAFFT Hey guy I just put the Winwing F18 stick on the VPforce with the winwing adapter...

Aileron_Hubbard•2/13/24, 3:19 AM

any chance you got simapp pro working with your rhino? im using the f16ex grip and trying to get it to work as well thanks!

Floki•2/13/24, 9:14 AM

Hi, I'm building a grip. I would like to know the diagram of the mini dim 5 pin connector of the VP Force base to connect it to the controller inside the grip. Thank you very much.

mark turner•2/13/24, 10:06 AM

Is it possible to make VP config & VP telem load an individual profile automatically for different modules?

Anybody happened to have got both VP-Joystick and VP-Pedal FFB working on Condor2? I'm getting contr

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