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RHINO #0450 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0450 Has Shipped!
SWell even god has multiple firearms
SAnd if god has a zip 22 doesnt that automatically make .22 long rifle gods caliber?
Pyeah it's like ~15kg of force at the grip connection point. It has no support for grips though so you would need to buy the grip & base for each grip you want ie. WW, Virpil, VKB. I have no idea about electric motors etc. but seems they are hoverboard motors, he claims they have no cogging & are smooth. It'd be interesting to see if he goes further with the software side of things. But as it is now I think I'll go for a big motor kit Rhino if I go for stronger ffb in the future
P*it has support on board for thrustmaster grips I belive he said
V:package: RHINO #0451 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0451 Has Shipped!
WI find it strange there's no emergency stop switch on that machine, that kind of forces can cause quite some damage/injury if configured wrong and the game sends some high amplitude effects.
Pyeah good observation! that's pretty crazy not having any sort of emergency stop.
Pout of curiosity how strong would the largest of the VPforce motors be in a Rhino like config?
BSeems to have an on/off button i guess.
But yeah slap switch, or for this even a kick switch you can trigger with a foot would be a better idea.
But yeah slap switch, or for this even a kick switch you can trigger with a foot would be a better idea.
WI guesstimate about 30ish Nm with the Rhino gearing
Pahh ok, how many kg's would that be?
NIt probably should have a dead man switch!.. if something does go badly, you wouldn't be in any condition to intentionally hit any manual switch..
Brings a whole new level to Whack F*ck
Brings a whole new level to Whack F*ck
Pjust trying to get an idea compared to that other one
Pit was ~15kg
Wdepends on the lever length. 30Nm at meter lever - 3kg, half meter - 6kg
BYou'd have to mount it inside the floor to make decent use of a 1m extension.
Then again with the forces in question, you might want to do just that...
Then again with the forces in question, you might want to do just that...
Ahow much force can the grips and connectors actually take?
Abtw what would 15kg at grip connector mean in watts?
FWatts is a measure of energy over time, 15kg is an unchanging force
FSame as Nm > N at stick is dependent on length
FIf you mean what the motor would pull it'd again be dependent on the length
Athe motor has to constantly work against the pull
Aand it's going to be a ballpark figure anyway, but I'm thinking those motors will need to dissipate quite a bit of heat to keep going for any length of time
WNOTICE Due to ISP problems, @VPforceBot will be offline for a bit
SNooo how will now know that im ~90 rhinos away from getting my own oh the humanity
FIt works but weirdly. In my case, spring force is too weak regardless of the gain value set by the vpforce configurator and timing of occuring buffeting is weird
FI'd say look at max power rating, 15kg would be around there anyways
Sis the Rhino just as smooth at low force settings?
MThe Rhino is smooth as hell at any force setting
BOnly time it doesn't feel smooth, and i mean smoooth, is when its not powered up.
MYeah, if you move it around without power, it's a little crunchy lol
BPower it up and it makes my otherwise amazing virpil gimbals feel like a bucket of bolts and nuts.
Sthis is why I ask about low force setting smoothness -- whether some of the graininess returns?
BThe anti cogging is seperate from the counter force, so even completely loose its all smooth.
BYou can almost feel more resistance without the motors powered than if you say dial spring down to 0%.
Ssounds delicious, can't wait to try. thanks 
BGetting the rhino was almost as big of a leap as going to VR
Svirpil gimbals are great, but somehow they have lost out to vkb and winwing in my setup.
Swell the WW Super Libra does have some Virpil DNA in the way I have modded it, namely Virpil's no center cams. With the WW Clutch, that one to date remains "the smoothest" I have
BNever tried vkb, and got virpils early, good enough until I found something truly new. Do have a WW throttle.
Rbigger for me. More than twice as expensive
S"got virpils early" means you don't have any gimbals with clutch, right?
Byup
Bfirst run t50 and warbrd
Sokay thanks. that puts some perspective on the comment. 
Bgot them in like 2017
S"smooth" for me means both a no center bump and a lack of felt axis crossing
Swarbrd does achieve that, but is very "springy"
BSo sure they are "old" but never felt like it would be worth to spend another $500 for a slightly updated unit