VPforce Controls•2y ago

Pay attention to the trim/position indicator - if the dot stays inside the circle centered you're go

Pay attention to the trim/position indicator - if the dot stays inside the circle centered you're golden!

NNumber481 you dont want my config 😅 ... its all sorts of wonky with weird settings and st...

Pikas62•3/19/24, 3:41 PM

Your right

. Better I should try out by myself.

Wwalmis Pay attention to the trim/position indicator - if the dot stays inside the circl...

Pikas62•3/19/24, 3:48 PM

It does but without the green cycle around it.

Number481•3/19/24, 4:03 PM

I'd suggest setting up and tuning/testing by using the hardware trim option in configurator rather than testing it first in DCS. If the dot is centered in the circle after releasing the HW trim button while only using configurator, but it is offsetting in the heli in DCS, then the issue is with DCS/The module rather than your vpforce config.

Pikas62•3/19/24, 4:21 PM

Out of DCS it works fine

. I will play with the config of DCS. THX!!!

WingOver•3/19/24, 5:32 PM

https://vpforcecontrols.com/ Down?

WingOver•3/19/24, 5:36 PM

walmisOP•3/19/24, 5:36 PM

Yeah, major ISP outage

WingOver•3/19/24, 5:37 PM

Wwalmis Eh, guess we need to dig deeper. It puts motors to sleep when there's no USB c...

Panny•3/19/24, 6:23 PM

OK I think I've found the issue. I reseated the cable and checked the front side flange connector for loose wiring. They aren't loose. However I think the female connector itself might be slightly bent or one of its pins are. In very select scenarios by angling the plug I can get it to connect, but it's difficult to do so and the moment it moves it disconnects. So something has probably slipped there. My guess would be replacing the cable and its connector would be easiest(I don't have anything to solder with)

PPanny OK I think I've found the issue. I reseated the cable and checked the front side...

walmisOP•3/19/24, 6:25 PM

Nice, that's great that we found the issue. I'll mail you a new cable tomorrow.

walmisOP•3/19/24, 6:29 PM

@Panny You can also fiddle with the connector with tweezers, maybe you'll be able to fix the problematic contact (That will save some time with shipping, and you'll be able to use your Rhino sooner)

Wwalmis @Panny You can also fiddle with the connector with tweezers, maybe you'll be abl...

Panny•3/19/24, 6:33 PM

subject to the limitations of my fat fingers

Panny•3/19/24, 6:33 PM

I will try my best or conscript my girlfriend

Panny•3/19/24, 6:33 PM

I'll let you know if I'm unsuccessful by tomorrow morning

sherman229•3/19/24, 6:38 PM

Is the web usb site down? i cant seem to get on it

sherman229•3/19/24, 6:42 PM

Also is there a trick to get the WW adaptor to tighten up? i have both sides tight but my grip is still flopping around Edit: Used a spacer from a grip extension and it tightened up

Wwalmis @Panny You can also fiddle with the connector with tweezers, maybe you'll be abl...

Panny•3/19/24, 7:17 PM

No luck I'm afraid

Major_Fault•3/19/24, 10:23 PM

Hi guys, I get no new status if I try the /info command is it not working for now ?

Stryker990•3/19/24, 10:23 PM

Bot down afaik

MMajor_Fault Hi guys, I get no new status if I try the /info command is it not working for no...

Fr4Ged•3/19/24, 10:40 PM

yes:
📃general

FFr4Ged yes: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/965234441511383083/12196548...

Major_Fault•3/19/24, 10:41 PM

thx

Wwalmis @Panny You can also fiddle with the connector with tweezers, maybe you'll be abl...

Panny•3/20/24, 8:02 AM

Yep, gave one more attempt to no luck. If you could post another cable that'd be great, thanks

PPanny Yep, gave one more attempt to no luck. If you could post another cable that'd be...

walmisOP•3/20/24, 8:18 AM

Hi, can you create an order request, appreciated! http://order.vpforce.eu
We'll send it asap.

Wwalmis Hi, can you create an order request, appreciated! http://order.vpforce.eu We'll ...

Panny•3/20/24, 8:22 AM

Made an order request and selected other stating 'USB connector with wiring to motherboard'

BAKE•3/20/24, 3:31 PM

Hi all.
I started my DIY journey back in sept 22. And life got in the way.
I am waayyy out of the loop on the project and have forgotten a lot of things.

Few questions.

They standard warthog grip thread is M20?

To make an extension cable, I need to make an adapter from a 5-pin mini DIN to JST- HX 2.5mm correct? Is there a pinout diagram pinned somewhere?

Does anyone know where to get the NS39 Connector, used on the DIY motor kit in the USA? I cant for the life of me find them.

BBAKE Hi all. I started my DIY journey back in sept 22. And life got in the way. I am ...

TheAmazinGreat•3/20/24, 3:39 PM

WH grip is M36x2.0

Correct on the 5 pin to JST XH.

My kit came with all the connectors other than the JST ones for the peripherals. If your kit didn’t come with the motor leads maybe Walmis could help.

TheAmazinGreat•3/20/24, 3:40 PM

🧰support
Grip pinout

TTheAmazinGreat WH grip is M36x2.0 Correct on the 5 pin to JST XH. My kit came with all the co...

BAKE•3/20/24, 3:42 PM

Thanks.
I found the Pinout (I think)

Given that Walmis is super busy, and my order was 2 years ago, I'm thinking my complaint period has closed.
Its just a couple of connectors after all.
If I cant find them, I'll likely solder on some Xt30s or something similar.

BAKE•3/20/24, 3:48 PM

Im not sure this pin out matches what @TheAmazinGreat linked..

TheAmazinGreat•3/20/24, 3:48 PM

Another one that is a bit easier to read

Number481•3/20/24, 3:49 PM

The one amazing great posted, along with this one helped it make sense to me when I was doing my cable : 🧰support

TheAmazinGreat•3/20/24, 3:50 PM

The one I linked is the “male” side. The other one pictured can be a bit deceiving because of the pin numbering in the table since it is out of order numerically on the table but in somewhat of a numerical order on the picture.

TTheAmazinGreat The one I linked is the “male” side. The other one pictured can be a bit deceivi...

BAKE•3/20/24, 3:56 PM

Will the 6pin PS/2 cable work fine?

BBAKE Will the 6pin PS/2 cable work fine?

TheAmazinGreat•3/20/24, 4:07 PM

You might be able to make it work by modifying since the nub in the middle is different between the two. I just got some off digikey, might be able to get those NS39 connectors there too.

BAKE•3/20/24, 5:07 PM

I ordered some 6 pin female panel connectors, I found a datasheet drawing of the 5s and 6s connectors. The difference is very minor.

Pretty sure I have the XH connectors in my RC stuff.

Xt30s to change out the motor power connectors. Since i have the 86 size motors. and a 300w PS.
Ordered 20amp resettable breaker,

What else....

BAKE•3/21/24, 1:08 AM

@walmis
i have a single motor connected on the bench, and It looks like VPForce doesnt recognize its connected.

BAKE•3/21/24, 1:10 AM

Do I have my connections right?

Number481•3/21/24, 1:10 AM

disable the axis thats not connected

NNumber481 disable the axis thats not connected

BAKE•3/21/24, 1:11 AM

iv tried disabling each axis one at a time. no luck.
it says in bottom right i have no motors connected

Number481•3/21/24, 1:17 AM

yea, I see that now.... if you've verified the motor is getting power, I'm not sure what else to look at. The wiring isn't complex and looks right to me.

BAKE•3/21/24, 1:17 AM

ill dbl chk power

ju_caesar•3/21/24, 1:19 AM

I am not 100% sure but I think I saw someone with a similar problem some time ago and I believe it was that the motors are labeled X or Y and have to be plugged in as such into the M/B.

BAKE•3/21/24, 1:35 AM

looks like power issue, though i dont know what could have happened between last night and today to make it not work anymore

Number481•3/21/24, 1:38 AM

IIRC, there’s a green LED on the motor in the cavity where the connectors are. But I’m not sure if it’s just a power indicator or a board communication status indicator.

nz aviator•3/21/24, 2:13 AM

anyone had issues with the xplane 12 zibo 737 with control jitter while running telemffb?

BAKE•3/21/24, 2:14 AM

Would this explain my power supply not working?

Nnz aviator anyone had issues with the xplane 12 zibo 737 with control jitter while running ...

Number481•3/21/24, 3:05 AM

you are very likely the first person to try, to be honest. What you describe sounds like the axis position that TelemFFB is sending is fighting with what X-Plane is reading. The xplane plugin for TelemFFB sends the commands to override the axes, but there is a lot of unknown about how different 3rd party modules are implemented in xplane. Even the default R22 helicopter doesn't listen to the override command for the collective axis. It is entirely possible that many of the more advanced 3rd party aircraft won't work.

You can try disabling the axis control in TelemFFB and see if it clears up (this will also disable any trim/autopilot following). You can also try un-binding the axes in X-Plane.

NNumber481 you are very likely the first person to try, to be honest. What you describe so...

nz aviator•3/21/24, 3:46 AM

axis control was definatly the issue thankfully still useable without.\

hellfudge•3/21/24, 11:31 AM

Please help, I’m not getting any ffb on il2.

hellfudge•3/21/24, 11:32 AM

This is from rhino debug log

Pay attention to the trim/position indicator - if the dot stays inside the circle centered you're go

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