I assume that FFB is disabled when in a dual seater while not having the controls? Don't want this t

I assume that FFB is disabled when in a dual seater while not having the controls? Don't want this to happen...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LCm1Q8cK4l0

ZZarro I assume that FFB is disabled when in a dual seater while not having the control...

MaxVonDayGlow•4/26/24, 10:28 PM

We will know when the F4 finally releases in "two weeks"

MMaxVonDayGlow We will know when the F4 finally releases in "two weeks"

ZarroOP•4/26/24, 10:29 PM

What about modules that exist right now?

MaxVonDayGlow•4/26/24, 10:34 PM

I haven't read anything about other 2-seaters in DCS with both players using FFB. It is pretty small user base. I'd imagine thanks to the Rhino (and DIY kits), we will find out at some poijnt

ZarroOP•4/26/24, 10:35 PM

Oh sorry, I don't specifically mean with 2 FFB users. What if my friend has a normal stick, and controls for example the apache. Does my stick move in real life?

MaxVonDayGlow•4/26/24, 10:36 PM

Found a post where FFB effects are impacting the other player in the Apache...https://forum.dcs.world/topic/301666-force-feedback-problem/

ED Forums

Force feedback problem.

Hi When I fly multicrew in the Apache as CPG, what happens is: every time the pilot (human pilot) trims the aircraft, i feel it in my joystick. Problem is: as CPG I use my joystick axis to operate the TEDAC camera and I don’t even have my joystick set to the aircraft controls axis in the configur...

ddrake1984•4/27/24, 12:38 AM

continuing discussion around HF8 here @blave549
I find the software pretty simple

ddrake1984•4/27/24, 12:38 AM

I select the game

ddrake1984•4/27/24, 12:39 AM

then I select the FFB effects I want to tune, I can select each of the pads I want for the effect and the % of how much I want it to rumble

ddrake1984•4/27/24, 12:40 AM

and that's it, honestly I am not sure why you spent 1/2 hr on this, it's not rocket science or anything, it's very simple and intuitive. 1 example I have is landing gear, I only want it to feel it on my butt so I set it up like this

ddrake1984•4/27/24, 12:42 AM

noting that this only activates the motors on my butt and not my back, this acheived a very simple setup for me. I see no benefit to Simshaker Aviators as it doesn't offer anything over and above what this program does for me, my original statement was only simply pointing out that I would have liked them to add IL-2 to their software, as they already have MSFS, X-Plane and DCS

FleshAndWater•4/27/24, 12:55 AM

hey, has anyone table mounted their rhino? Prospective buyer here...I wanted to get some monstertech table mounts but not sure if theres enough throw allowed in that setup?

JJehly Was there a kit supposed to be made? I printed a kit for mine and it works amazi...

Fer•4/27/24, 1:03 AM

Sorry I meant the mfg ffb mod.

MMach_Point_Yuh Hey, does anyone know how long the backorder is for #13 on the store? This littl...

Fer•4/27/24, 1:06 AM

Is that the aluminum replacement? Where can we preorder this ?

Mach_Point_Yuh•4/27/24, 1:07 AM

Yes, it’s the aluminum replacement. You can get on the backlog on the same google doc you order your rhino from

.Eagle.•4/27/24, 2:05 AM

Hey guys, quick question.
Is it really taking a year for the lead time to obtain the rhino?

FlatSpin•4/27/24, 2:45 AM

6 months to a year yes

Thorluis2•4/27/24, 3:17 AM

What is the latest order number for a rhino @VPforceBot ?

FlatSpin•4/27/24, 3:35 AM

!status

FFlatSpin !status

VPforceBot•4/27/24, 3:35 AM

Hey @FlatSpin,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0508 on 2024-04-26
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 209 days, median is 216 days, max is 407 days
496 Rhinos are shipped in total

Thorluis2•4/27/24, 3:41 AM

!help

TThorluis2 !help

VPforceBot•4/27/24, 3:41 AM

Available commands are:
!status or !stats - get the latest statistics about Rhino production
!info <email>

You can ask me to fetch you your preorder information. You can DM me in private so you won't leak your email address publicly.

otor kit order requests go here - http://order.vpforce.eu
RHINO base preorders here: http://reserve.vpforce.eu

Also don't forget to check out the #

faq channel for more info.

Google Docs

VPforce Order Request

Order request for VPforce products.
Please note: to reserve a VPforce RHINO FFB base, please use reservation form here.

Once the order is ready to be fulfilled an invoice will be sent to the provided email address.

Google Docs

VPforce RHINO Preorder

Enter your details here, so you can enter the waiting queue for the Rhino FFB base.
Once the queue progresses I will get in touch with further details.

Quick FAQ:
The Rhino costs - 800EUR + Shipping (~80EUR to USA/Canada on average, up to 40EUR in EU)
It is compatible with Virpil/Thrustmaster Grips out of the box
WinWing/VKB GFII grips are supp...

FFlatSpin !status

Thorluis2•4/27/24, 3:42 AM

Thank you

FFleshAndWater hey, has anyone table mounted their rhino? Prospective buyer here...I wanted to ...

Tinman•4/27/24, 4:17 AM

Depending how stable your desk is, but generally speaking, table mounts aren't enough unless braced to the floor.

FFlatSpin 6 months to a year yes

.Eagle.•4/27/24, 4:23 AM

Holy pepperoni. I guess it will be my Christmas gift

FleshAndWater•4/27/24, 5:36 AM

Thanks for the information. I suppose I’ll shell out the arm and leg for a monster tech office chair…

FFleshAndWater hey, has anyone table mounted their rhino? Prospective buyer here...I wanted to ...

MichalK•4/27/24, 6:29 AM

In the showcase channel you can find some installations based on Monstertech table mounts, but with an added length to rest on the floor.

MMichalK In the showcase channel you can find some installations based on Monstertech tab...

FleshAndWater•4/27/24, 6:31 AM

Ah, thank you I’ll take a look. I’m guessing they use throw limiters? I figure the throw would bump into the mount itself.

MichalK•4/27/24, 6:31 AM

A table mount just hanging from the desk in the air will flex a lot

..Eagle.Holy pepperoni. I guess it will be my Christmas gift

PiNKSH!T•4/27/24, 6:31 AM

it'll be the best christmas gift ever! It really is a total game changer for flight sims, especially with helicopters & warbirds due to the trim.

FFleshAndWater Ah, thank you I’ll take a look. I’m guessing they use throw limiters? I figure t...

MichalK•4/27/24, 6:35 AM

Yes, I use 15 deg limiter without stick extension, and with extension something around 11 deg is recommended

Shamansky•4/27/24, 6:49 AM

Just paid for my Rhino and accessories, about 30 units to go. Finally something I am excited for! I really need this to cope with creeping burn out at lifework. Few question. So how long is warranty and how is it covered? Is it easy to maintain and self repair like my super old Warthog and Cougar (have early serial numbers since their release month/year, both still work). Where to download dims so I can start cutting and drilling already to be ready for its arrival?

MichalK•4/27/24, 6:52 AM

Check the ❓faq

FFleshAndWater Thanks for the information. I suppose I’ll shell out the arm and leg for a monst...

Touch_Of_Legend•4/27/24, 8:23 AM

Mtsims are not made by monster tech

The ultra expensive but also super super nice office chairs come from Mtsims ($800+ for just the chair)

Touch_Of_Legend•4/27/24, 8:24 AM

https://www.mtsim.com/

MTSIM USA

MTSIM USA – Simulation Design – Official Website

High Quality Simulation Solutions. Flight and Racing Cockpits, Flight Chairs, Joystick / HOTAS Desk Mounts, Chair Mounts, and more...

TTouch_Of_Legend Mtsims are not made by monster tech The ultra expensive but also super super n...

FleshAndWater•4/27/24, 8:26 AM

my bad, i thought they were the same. yeah thats the one i was planning on getting. anyone have experience with that center mounted to the mtsim office chair?

FFleshAndWater my bad, i thought they were the same. yeah thats the one i was planning on getti...

Touch_Of_Legend•4/27/24, 8:31 AM

You may have to search up in the “showcase” or “DIY” sections but we had a nice discussion about those one day when I brought them up as a a joke and sure enough… a couple Rhino owners have them hahaha

They posted pics in the thread but it maybe was awhile ago.

It came up because I was building a custom flight chair and searching for the perfect base (which I ended up building anyway lol)

Touch_Of_Legend•4/27/24, 8:33 AM

Someone said they have had one for over a year and loved it… actually used it for an office chair.

Someone else said you can get them to custom order and send the removable headrest so it’s easier to swivel using a VR headset…

Honestly at the cost and the reputation they are worth every penny if you can swing it.

Every single review I’ve ever seen is stellar and that’s just unheard of in this day and age

..Eagle.Holy pepperoni. I guess it will be my Christmas gift

Touch_Of_Legend•4/27/24, 8:36 AM

Depending on your skills you can also DIY.

No matter what best of luck with whatever you decide.

If you wait.. that’s just part of the deal. Everyone who has an official unit had the same (or sometimes a longer) wait.

So think of it like a right of passage.

FleshAndWater•4/27/24, 9:19 AM

yeah i finally came up in queue after waiting 6 months!

FFleshAndWater my bad, i thought they were the same. yeah thats the one i was planning on getti...

Fierce_Fire•4/27/24, 9:46 AM

You can search through the channels with the "image only" filter to speed up research if you're still doing it

Fierce_Fire•4/27/24, 9:46 AM

That's how I figured out how I wanted to make my gimbal

DoZZa•4/27/24, 2:26 PM

Hi, I am beginning my proper journey into flight sim, especially helicopters, currently loving the Hype H145 in MSFS, I have lived in an area with a lot of aircraft, especially helicopter activity since childhood, I live very close to what used to be RAF Chivenor in North Devon, and have always wanted to be a pilot from a very early age, but sadly my eyesight prevented me from fulfilling that dream. So the sim is as close as I can get to the real thing.

I have been a sim racer for many years but I have recently found it to become somewhat boring, so I am wanting to spend more time flying than driving. I went on the hunt to see if FFB devices were available for flight sim in a similar way to sim racing, which led me to discovering this community. So hi everyone!

I am keen to learn more about the RHINO. I am currently considering my options for hardware, I currently have the Thurstmaster HOTAS joystick and throttle, while it is OK, I feel it could be a lot better. Currently liking the look of the Virpil range of grips and was wondering if the RHINO was compatible with the Virpril grips?

Thanks

Fresh_Mint•4/27/24, 2:41 PM

Yeah virpil grips are almost full compatible to RHINO

FFresh_Mint Yeah virpil grips are almost full compatible to RHINO

DoZZa•4/27/24, 2:46 PM

Thanks for the confirmation

FFresh_Mint Yeah virpil grips are almost full compatible to RHINO

TonyM•4/27/24, 3:12 PM

I thought they were 100% compatible actually.

DDoZZa Hi, I am beginning my proper journey into flight sim, especially helicopters, cu...

corbu1•4/27/24, 3:14 PM

I‘m flying helicopters with the Rhino now since a few days! And what I can say is this is just awesome experience.

I used a TM warthog with a 40cm extension held in place after moving via steering dampers. This was fine as a workaround. Finally I went for Rhino and this is so much better. Force Trim with FFB is excellent!!!

Bob Bushman•4/27/24, 3:14 PM

The only difference between virpil extensions and thrustmaster ones is the virpil have loose connections with a bit of extra cables so you can rotate the grip as needed...

Rechs•4/27/24, 6:06 PM

Hey group, I have a question. I got Brunner MkII FFB pedals to go along with my FFB stick, however I just read on Reddit that DCS doesn’t support two FFB devices. Is that true? I can’t find any other reference to this info, and figured this group would know for sure.

AndyHill•4/27/24, 6:21 PM

probably not, I don't think any sim has native support for ffb pedals

AndyHill•4/27/24, 6:22 PM

they will need to run off special software, possibly making use of telemetry

I assume that FFB is disabled when in a dual seater while not having the controls? Don't want this t

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