think of distrobox as a wrapper for docker/podman that integrates it with the host and you can insta

think of distrobox as a wrapper for docker/podman that integrates it with the host and you can install gui applications and cli applications in it which do not touch the host system. it is one of the best ways to install something on an atomic or immutable system

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:14 AM

https://distrobox.it/#distrobox

Distrobox

Use any linux distribution inside your terminal.

HHikariKnight think of distrobox as a wrapper for docker/podman that integrates it with the ho...

potemkinhr•4/27/24, 11:15 AM

is homebrew an alternative as @yukidream suggested? I'll probably also need ffmpeg to interface with it for some commands so better integration between them might tip the scales between them

Ppotemkinhr is homebrew an alternative as @yukidream suggested? I'll probably also need ffmp...

dreamyuki•4/27/24, 11:16 AM

ffmpeg is preinstalled on bazzite since it is being used for thumbnail

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:17 AM

yes homebrew is another alternative, it is an alternative package manager that contains all the installs inside $HOME/linuxbrew$HOME/linuxbrew, also works for cli applications that need tighter integration with the host
however brew is only for cli applications

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:18 AM

it is also independent of the system so i believe it uses its own dependencies

potemkinhr•4/27/24, 11:18 AM

will dabble with it, thanks for the concise write up

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:18 AM

i do not use it myself as 100% of what i need runs in distrobox

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:18 AM

i use it on macos though, its kinda a must have there

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:19 AM

plus i like the ability to give distrobox its own home directory to mess with

Wolf™•4/27/24, 11:19 AM

I have two Displays. One 4k display and my TV. When the tv is not connected i cant switch to game mode. Why?

potemkinhr•4/27/24, 11:19 AM

yt-dlp is great, in Windows I made custom functions to download specific stuff and it worked without issues, with immutable things work a bit different

Ellis•4/27/24, 11:21 AM

:meow:

WWolf™I have two Displays. One 4k display and my TV. When the tv is not connected i ca...

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:21 AM

make a thread in #bazzite-help and give us the log from ~/.gamescope-stdout.log~/.gamescope-stdout.log and ~/.gamescope-cmd.log~/.gamescope-cmd.log when it happens then we will have a bigger chance of being able to help you

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:22 AM

if you cant get the log without connecting the screen back then get the one with .old in it

adms•4/27/24, 11:25 AM

I tried blender with fresh 3.0 install. That's the only thing I did, but still not working.
I don't want to spam this channel with this issue anymore so I opened a topic with all the details under bazzite-help
🛟bazzite-helpBlender HIP Rendering greyed out in every version I try to install

HHikariKnight if you cant get the log without connecting the screen back then get the one with...

Wolf™•4/27/24, 11:28 AM

Cant upload log files in discord.

WWolf™Cant upload log files in discord. 🤨

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:36 AM

cat thelogfile.log | fpastecat thelogfile.log | fpaste

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:36 AM

and include that in your thread

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 11:37 AM

will give you a link you just provide us

Wolf™•4/27/24, 11:38 AM

In windows i can upload the files.

This is a username•4/27/24, 11:55 AM

So I was copying very important files to another drive because I needed to back them up because Bazzite was acting super freaky and weird for me

turns out, bazzite has decided to copy all of the folders and none of the files

this marks the end of my journey with Linux until it's capable of doing the most basic system tasks known to man without causing me over 2 weeks worth of data loss

This is a username•4/27/24, 11:55 AM

I give up here

antheas•4/27/24, 12:07 PM

What happened to the original files?

TThis is a username So I was copying very important files to another drive because I needed to back ...

potemkinhr•4/27/24, 12:11 PM

I know the feel, I have been screwed similarly back in the day by OS X. I was moving college project files to an external drive and apparent for just a split second the USB drive lost connection for a bit, which under normal circumstances wouldn't be that big a deal, but then there's Apple. See, when you are doing a move files option if by any chance the destination becomes unavailable it reverts the move but then also deletes the files in the source, so you're left with nothing. Almost failed my grade, luckily I could hand in the files later.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/os-x-lion-finder-bug-deletes-moved-files/

CNET

OS X Lion Finder bug deletes moved files

It's an unusual bug, but it could still happen to you. Here's how to dodge it.

antheas•4/27/24, 12:13 PM

Yeah when copying from drive to drive I usually do a copy and when it succeeds I remove the original

antheas•4/27/24, 12:14 PM

Also important to note that Linux uses ram caching for all drives unlike windows

antheas•4/27/24, 12:14 PM

So the transfer shows finished before it finishes

antheas•4/27/24, 12:14 PM

And if you don't eject you get data corruption

Aantheas What happened to the original files?

This is a username•4/27/24, 12:22 PM

lemme say it like this:

1. Files are on Drive A
2. I copy them to Drive B, now they're on Drives A and B
3. I wipe Drive A completely, it's now empty
4. I check Drive B, turns out the files didn't copy properly and essentially everything is gone aside empty folders

doomhound•4/27/24, 12:32 PM

Anyone run into issues using gamescope where you go to alt tab to a browser and only the virtual desktop for the game is visible

TThis is a username lemme say it like this: 1. Files are on Drive A 2. I copy them to Drive B, now...

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 12:43 PM

how did you do the copy, also did you actually check if the progress was 100% done before even ejecting drive B (so that the remaining transfered files get flushed to the drive before you remove it if they havent been moved yet)
kde and gnomes file managers do not show progress in a clear way, often hiding it into a small icon either in the file manager or tray.

because linux tends to make the empty folders first, then copy files so it sounds like an incomplete transfer.

HHikariKnight how did you do the copy, also did you actually check if the progress was 100% do...

This is a username•4/27/24, 12:50 PM

a notification said the transfer completed successfully

Exceed•4/27/24, 12:51 PM

this sucks i dont know why gw2 isnt launching anymore

TThis is a username a notification said the transfer completed successfully

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 12:51 PM

means it can still be cached in ram and wont get force flushed before you eject the drive (unmount)

Exceed•4/27/24, 12:51 PM

i made a support thread

HHikariKnight means it can still be cached in ram and wont get force flushed before you eject ...

This is a username•4/27/24, 12:58 PM

no lol, it can't

This is a username•4/27/24, 12:58 PM

this happened like yesterday, it's long gone

TThis is a username no lol, it can't

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 12:59 PM

im talking when it said it was complete, it could still be in flight in ram because of how the disk caching work in linux

TThis is a username a notification said the transfer completed successfully

halva•4/27/24, 1:02 PM

it's a quirk with most modern oses, they don't exactly tell you when the transfer is actually complete because of caching
that's why you need to safe eject pen drives

halva•4/27/24, 1:03 PM

that can happen anywhere from windows to android

halva•4/27/24, 1:04 PM

altho if you did do the whole safe ejection song and dance, then that's really odd

Hhalva altho if you did do the whole safe ejection song and dance, then that's really o...

HikariKnightOP•4/27/24, 1:11 PM

exactly

antheas•4/27/24, 1:19 PM

windows disables RAM caching but as far as I know its the only os to do so

antheas•4/27/24, 1:19 PM

for hotpluggable drives

halva•4/27/24, 1:20 PM

it should but in my experience it's very hit or miss with guessing which drives are actually hotpluggable

antheas•4/27/24, 1:20 PM

thats also true

antheas•4/27/24, 1:21 PM

still is a bad idea to yank drives. But linux is particularly bad in that regard

antheas•4/27/24, 1:21 PM

transfers can finish half an hour before they actually do

halva•4/27/24, 1:21 PM

yea

halva•4/27/24, 1:22 PM

i think it's just a good idea in general to never assume those notifications are true

think of distrobox as a wrapper for docker/podman that integrates it with the host and you can insta

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