Does anyone know why the VP Rhino with the VPC T50 grip might have CONSTANT false button presses tha

Does anyone know why the VP Rhino with the VPC T50 grip might have CONSTANT false button presses that make binding everything impossible. i get this weird map of button presses (like 25, 26, 27) etc with every button so I can't bind in dcs etc

Ssuperbird1011 Does anyone know why the VP Rhino with the VPC T50 grip might have CONSTANT fals...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:21 PM

You have to select T50CM2 and then it shows the brake (pinky trigger) as an Axis.

In the Rhino software you can then calibrate the Axis.

When you plug in a T50Mongoose and select “generic” it shows some erratic button presses so just select for the CM2.

Works totally fine.

Yep I have the Mongoose T50CM as well and this is the workaround.

The only actual difference was they replaced our thumb button with a Hat and they added click Hats where we have 4 ways.

So you just bind it as normal and good to go (the unused inputs don’t register).

TTouch_Of_Legend You have to select T50CM2 and then it shows the brake (pinky trigger) as an Axis...

superbird1011OP•5/21/24, 10:21 PM

Thank you! I will try this trick, i did have it selected with the correct grip but i dont think i’ve calibrated it with the brake trigger too. Just getting everything ready for the Phantom!

Ssuperbird1011 Thank you! I will try this trick, i did have it selected with the correct grip b...

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:26 PM

Fun fact they used to affectionately call the F4 the Rhino

Happy flying!

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:27 PM

Oh and yes I’m waiting too.. Reading the manual as we speak

TTouch_Of_Legend Oh and yes I’m waiting too.. Reading the manual as we speak 👍🏽

superbird1011OP•5/21/24, 10:27 PM

If you want a wingman you know where i am!

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:27 PM

https://tacairnet.com/2015/06/18/redeveloping-the-f-4-phantom-ii-into-a-mach-3-fighterspy-plane/

The Tactical Air NetworkIan D'Costa

Redeveloping the F-4 Phantom II into a Mach 3+ Fighter/Spy Plane

Few aircraft in history have flown to the same level of distinction as McDonnell Douglas’ F-4 Phantom II. It was the jet that ushered in a new age of fighter aviation, proving itself on the f…

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:29 PM

Read the article and you see about half way down where is says what airmen used to call her.

(Yep we’re driving Rhino’s with a Rhino)

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:29 PM

So it’s really only fitting that we have a wing of Rhino drivers.

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:32 PM

Maybe someone should save that somewhere..

It’s very fitting the plane nicknamed the Rhino is from an era before FBW so it’s going to take full advantage of “the Rhino” FFB systems…

I’m pretty excited for this one for sure

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:33 PM

And yeah she’s a match made in Heaven to the VPforce Rhino.

I already know this one is going to be great to fly with FFB

Ssuperbird1011 If you want a wingman you know where i am!

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:36 PM

See above and yep we’re going to build an entire wing of Rhino drivers!

superbird1011OP•5/21/24, 10:37 PM

I’m going to read that now. And yeah! I’ve been excited for the Phantom ever since I got my Rhino. I knew it was going to be perfect for it, especially with Heatblur as the devs!

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:38 PM

@walmis @Subsonic (Protomaker) see what I posted above.

You guys know the F4 was affectionately known as “the Rhino”

And like.. a bunch of folks with FFB will be flying phantom II (aka the Rhino)

Touch_Of_Legend•5/21/24, 10:40 PM

So see we’re going to be Rhino’s

flying… Rhino’s!!

Number481•5/21/24, 10:41 PM

PhPhB

Asger•5/21/24, 10:59 PM

hello again. I would be grateful if someone can help with Rhino and IL2. It is the only device connected so nothing interferes and IL2 recognises the device when started up but when I try to map it the game does not listen to the Rhino and can´t do anything

AAsger hello again. I would be grateful if someone can help with Rhino and IL2. It is t...

Number481•5/21/24, 11:08 PM

You likely have too many usb devices. Lot of people use HIDHide to mask unneeded devices from IL2. But you can test just by disconnecting any devices you don’t use in IL2.

Asger•5/21/24, 11:11 PM

Yes, that is what I did. I unplugged almost everything and still nothing. It is annoying.

Asger•5/21/24, 11:16 PM

Could it be related to the port selected in the telemetry text added in the LUA file?

Asger•5/21/24, 11:16 PM

I guess not but asking from ignorance

Number481•5/21/24, 11:20 PM

No, that’s completely unrelated to the joystick. IL2 doesn’t even know it’s related to the joystick. It’s just sending packets to an IP address.

I’ve never had to work through the issue myself so I can’t give you any other tips, but I’ve seen others with the same issue (can bind but doesn’t respond in flight) solve it with hidhide

Maybe this post will provide more insight? https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/72473-so-you-went-and-bought-too-many-peripherals/

IL-2 Sturmovik Forum

So you went and bought too many peripherals...

Il-2 supports up to 8 devices. It's possible to exceed that limit, either because you have multiple vjoy devices, have racing gear attached in addition to your flight hardware, or maybe you just went a little wild building your home cockpit. This is a short guide to fixing that problem. If You On...

Asger•5/21/24, 11:24 PM

Thanks @Number481 !!

Caprice•5/22/24, 4:52 AM

Hello! Was getting back into my tomcat and viggen yesterday, and noticed the autopilots did not seem to work as intended. is there something in the special settings that I need to enable or somewhere else to get these working correctly with the rhino base?

Please tag me so I ensure I don't miss the answer if you have one!

ddrake1984•5/22/24, 9:30 AM

Is there a way to make the pedals do a self test? like make them move on their own from min-to-max range for a few times? I want to see that the motor is pushing the pedals to their max

ddrake1984•5/22/24, 9:31 AM

@Number481 @walmis

ddrake1984•5/22/24, 10:30 AM

also, is there a way to have the Joystick and Pedals named separately? unfortunately when I choose a USB Device Ident for one, the other gets that name too..

Dddrake1984 also, is there a way to have the Joystick and Pedals named separately? unfortuna...

walmis•5/22/24, 10:31 AM

Change the USB PID to 2054 for pedals and 2055 for Joystick

walmis•5/22/24, 10:31 AM

Windows doesn't support different JS names for the same PID

Wwalmis Change the USB PID to 2054 for pedals and 2055 for Joystick

ddrake1984•5/22/24, 10:32 AM

any thought about my other question regarding a self test?

walmis•5/22/24, 10:32 AM

not sure I follow the purpose of the test

ddrake1984•5/22/24, 10:34 AM

I was thinking it would be good to see it move from minimum to maximum range to check and visually see if it has consistency in the belt / motor movement etc. putting my feet on it and moving it to maximum I don't want to influence it's own movement

ddrake1984•5/22/24, 10:34 AM

this is a brand new, never used rhino (motor) pedals and I want to make sure it's all working as expected

AndyHill•5/22/24, 10:35 AM

self calibration would be cool

ddrake1984•5/22/24, 10:37 AM

WhereNoLarkFlew•5/22/24, 11:55 AM

Aluminum grip shipped for me this morning, thanks @walmis for the quick response - I know you’re keeping busy, I appreciate the help. Looking forward to trying the Rhino soon.

WhereNoLarkFlew•5/22/24, 11:58 AM

If there’s no guide on swapping grips I can take some pics and post here at some point if anyone is interested

Fer•5/22/24, 1:20 PM

Hey how can I get those pedals ??

TTouch_Of_Legend You have to select T50CM2 and then it shows the brake (pinky trigger) as an Axis...

superbird1011OP•5/22/24, 2:25 PM

The brake axis doesnt work on mine i can see it says brake axis but doesn’t register

superbird1011OP•5/22/24, 2:28 PM

@walmis

Dddrake1984 I was thinking it would be good to see it move from minimum to maximum range to ...

Number481•5/22/24, 3:40 PM

I have a little tester app I wrote that can do this... its not very polished though

I wrote it for myself as an easy way to play around with different combinations of effects and forces when writing new effects. I can send you a copy if you want (no warranty expressed or implied

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Number481•5/22/24, 3:42 PM

peteg•5/22/24, 5:07 PM

When I bank left or right there seems to be some inertia that carries the stick further into the turn than it should. I would think that the inertia setting would fix this but I haven’t had luck with that yet. Can anyone suggest what setting I might want to tweak?

NNumber481 No, that’s completely unrelated to the joystick. IL2 doesn’t even know it’s rela...

Asger•5/22/24, 5:17 PM

Hi @Number481 I solved it. Indeed my problem was that IL2 already had 8 devices identified. Not sure when IL2 included the Winwing MIP screens but yes, that was the issue. The post you gave me was actually not necessary but gave me the info I needed. It was as simple as opening the IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles\data\input\devices.txt and delete all unnecessary devices. Then open IL2 and map the Rhino as usual. Great info, thanks very much!!!

AAsger Hi @Number481 I solved it. Indeed my problem was that IL2 already had 8 devices ...

RustBelt•5/22/24, 6:23 PM

Yea I ran into that one with IL2. I had to do some wild contortions of Joystick “melding” to stick with their mind shatteringly primitive DirectInput Windows 97 limitations.

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