One other thing I've found people worry about is Linux compatibility with their laptop or future lap

One other thing I've found people worry about is Linux compatibility with their laptop or future laptop. I'm not really a hardware guy so I don't know off the top of my head the various laptops other than the Linux focused, XPS, Thinkpads or Framework. Does anyone know a list of known compatible laptops? Or is that something that needs crowdsourcing.

linux_doggo•6/8/24, 9:10 PM

is hardware compatibility with linux really a problem nowadays

linux_doggo•6/8/24, 9:11 PM

other than the obvious, nvidia, ive never ran into any hardware compatibility issues on any machine

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 9:13 PM

There's various small issues. Certain thinks like speaker amps, fingerprint readers etc. On a couple lenovo laptops there's a kernel issue with the standby working every time. Beyond that there's peripherals that may not be fully featured.

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 9:16 PM

Obviously "Windows Hello" IR camera logins don't work on Linux (Howdy doesn't support atomic as yet). I think it would be cool to have a ProtonDB style list of hardware, workarounds and that kind of thing

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 9:18 PM

Regardless though if it's a Major issue it is something people worry about. You're never really certain what may or may not work when you install Linux on a laptop meant for Windows.

Ddannymate Well worst case documentation would be good. (Which I don't mind writing if requ...

Daegalus•6/8/24, 9:19 PM

Forums are even better. Love forums. Dm me the link

Ddannymate One other thing I've found people worry about is Linux compatibility with their ...

Daegalus•6/8/24, 9:21 PM

It's all up in the air. The bigger the following for a brand, the better the support. Dell, Lenovo, HP, Asus all have good support. Even if it requires efforts like this discord. There is enough people where there are Linux focused devs that start contributing and figuring things out.

Obscure brands are a crapshoot but also tend to use generic stuff that works mostly.

In general these days, it's either custom shit from the big guys that needs extra code and kernel stuff, or Nvidia

DDaegalus It's all up in the air. The bigger the following for a brand, the better the sup...

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 9:49 PM

I think that's the issue. When we're talking in broad terms to someone if they should switch to Linux there's that caveat of "Assuming your laptop doesn't have issues with Linux" (which I literally just copy pasted from someone else) because of that custom stuff. If we had something more concrete we could instead provide an action to do instead, i.e. Check if your laptops supported here ->. That's what I do when people ask about game compatibility and it makes my life way easier.

A big barrier to a lot of people is the effort of research. You place a pre-researched list in their faces they're more likely to actually follow through. Path of least resistance stylee.

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 9:49 PM

Obviously ProtonDB style hardware list easier said than done of course

Indigo•6/8/24, 9:50 PM

hey am I being silly because when I try to type on my system with bazzite it just kinda stops typing sometimes, deletes a character, and then retypes it like half a second later

antheas•6/8/24, 9:51 PM

Unless you buy a business laptop Linux support is a crapshoot

Indigo•6/8/24, 9:51 PM

I thought "oh i'll update my system", and when I went to do that, it has just kinda frozen the process without actually doing anything

Aantheas Unless you buy a business laptop Linux support is a crapshoot

Indigo•6/8/24, 9:51 PM

or a jailbreakable chromebook

antheas•6/8/24, 9:51 PM

Just like there is one Linux kernel, we should focus on buying certain laptops

antheas•6/8/24, 9:52 PM

And have great support for those

antheas•6/8/24, 9:52 PM

Manufacturers put a lot of validation to make sure their laptops work with windows

antheas•6/8/24, 9:52 PM

Even then windows support is b tier too

g4vsvsvssv•6/8/24, 9:56 PM

if i manage to port bazzite on ps4 what would i get ?

matt_schwartz•6/8/24, 9:57 PM

self satisfaction?

g4vsvsvssv•6/8/24, 9:57 PM

i want in return a steam game that i want

Gg4vsvsvssv if i manage to port bazzite on ps4 what would i get ?

Valerie•6/8/24, 9:57 PM

It's x86 so it theoretically would work but not that great lol

Gg4vsvsvssv if i manage to port bazzite on ps4 what would i get ?

antheas•6/8/24, 9:57 PM

Gaming4linux news article

Aantheas Just like there is one Linux kernel, we should focus on buying certain laptops

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 9:58 PM

I agree totally but the issue being there's no central list of laptops that work well with Linux that I can point to and secondly I can't expect people to pay for a new laptop just for Linux support.

antheas•6/8/24, 9:59 PM

There's this miscommunication that all it takes is having a central database of laptop issues then it will work

antheas•6/8/24, 9:59 PM

Somebody has to fix the issues

antheas•6/8/24, 9:59 PM

Consumer laptops don't have kernel drivers

Valerie•6/8/24, 9:59 PM

Can I use Bazzite on this

antheas•6/8/24, 9:59 PM

And the kernel drivers that do exist are not good

Aantheas Somebody has to fix the issues

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 9:59 PM

Why? It's just for awareness

antheas•6/8/24, 10:00 PM

For laptop features that is

antheas•6/8/24, 10:00 PM

GPU drivers work sure

antheas•6/8/24, 10:00 PM

Wifi works

antheas•6/8/24, 10:01 PM

The platform features of the laptops don't work though and they make a huge difference

antheas•6/8/24, 10:01 PM

In usability

antheas•6/8/24, 10:01 PM

Or they partly worj

antheas•6/8/24, 10:02 PM

The reason framework laptops work in fedora is because framework gave laptops to fedora folks

antheas•6/8/24, 10:03 PM

And they test the updates

antheas•6/8/24, 10:03 PM

Otherwise it would break every second update

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 10:03 PM

I'm not campaigning for a Laptop ProtonDB. It stems from the point I made about trying to get people to try Linux and them worrying about compatibility issues with their current laptops.

antheas•6/8/24, 10:03 PM

Also asahi is a fedora project

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 10:03 PM

I can hardly say to them buy a new laptop

antheas•6/8/24, 10:03 PM

Now

antheas•6/8/24, 10:03 PM

Otherwise asahi would break every other update too

antheas•6/8/24, 10:04 PM

I get what you're saying though

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 10:04 PM

Also it's my fantasy so it would be all hardware in general

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 10:04 PM

peripherals with incompatible software etc.

dannymateOP•6/8/24, 10:05 PM

I also don't know which laptops are actually functional with Linux :p Which is actually what my original question was about.

antheas•6/8/24, 10:06 PM

as somebody that depends on the kernel driver for the ally i will tell you never again

antheas•6/8/24, 10:06 PM

the only feature of hhd that uses a kernel driver is tdp for the ally, and fixing the controllers after sleep

antheas•6/8/24, 10:07 PM

and it does not work properly

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