VPforce Controls•2y ago

But you're telling me there's a chance?

CCol. Sanders But you're telling me there's a chance?

Number481•6/21/24, 9:24 PM

NNumber481 🤏

Col. SandersOP•6/21/24, 9:26 PM

CCol. Sanders Another ffb announced, from flitesim C172 yoke with combat stick and pedals to c...

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:26 PM

I'm looking and looking, do you perhaps have a source I can reference for more info on the yoke?

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:27 PM

https://flitesim.myshopify.com/products/cls-60-force-feedback-yoke-1 This is what I see so far (I've seen their stuff before)

Is it basically a newer version of this that was just announced?

FliteSim.com

CLS-60 Force Feedback Yoke

Estimated Shipping: 31 July 2024 (Or Earlier) The CLS-60, the World's First Affordable Modular Force Feedback (Control-Loading System (CLS)) Yoke for Flight Simulation Experience Unparalleled Realism in Flight Simulation - at an Affordable Price! The CLS-60 from FliteSim.com is the World’s first modular force feedback

Col. SandersOP•6/21/24, 9:27 PM

https://stormbirds.blog/2024/06/21/fsexpo-day-one-live-updates/

StormbirdsShamrockOneFive

FSExpo Day One: Live updates

Alright folks! Here we go! We’re on site at The Rio Las Vegas for FlightSim Expo 2024 and it promises to be quite an action packed afternoon with a series of presentations from names both big…

Col. SandersOP•6/21/24, 9:28 PM

Following on storm birds. Has some pictures of the slides.

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:29 PM

Ah so it is in fact the product I linked. It is scheduled to ship end of July and is currently on sale for $800usd

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:30 PM

Ah 165mm shaft that explains why it is so long

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:32 PM

I'd suspect their FFB flight stick will be in the $700+ range possibly beond $1k

JJon (Bounty_V)I'm looking and looking, do you perhaps have a source I can reference for more i...

voidkitty•6/21/24, 9:32 PM

They have a discord server

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:32 PM

Doesn't surprise me

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:32 PM

From what I can tell their yoke was also on Indigogo

JJon (Bounty_V)Ah so it is in fact the product I linked. It is scheduled to ship end of July an...

voidkitty•6/21/24, 9:33 PM

The $800 price was for their initial backers... Due to shipping costs they said they might not be able to keep it at $800.

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:33 PM

If you click the link I sent, it is on sale for that $800

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:34 PM

The 120 is on sale for $1200

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:34 PM

The description has an estimated shipping price of $150-200 for most locations

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:35 PM

Which based on what you are saying, this could be increased by 30-50% easily

voidkitty•6/21/24, 9:35 PM

@Jon (Bounty_V) https://discord.com/channels/1208508271573471293/1234505219035893821/1250764812317757511

LastRonin•6/21/24, 9:35 PM

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:35 PM

Ooh

LastRonin•6/21/24, 9:35 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giso1oet7WQ

YouTubeBritish Avgeek

FSExpo Product Announcements #FSExpoFriday

This stream is automated and live from Las Vegas controlled by our friends at Flight Simulation Association at FSExpo 2024!

Throughout this stream various developers and companies will be discussing their products live during the seminar and it'll be cast directly to this channel so you can see it live!

Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound - https...

JJon (Bounty_V)If you click the link I sent, it is *on sale* for that $800

Col. SandersOP•6/21/24, 9:35 PM

Thanks for the find. Couldn't get the website to load up.

LastRonin•6/21/24, 9:35 PM

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:36 PM

They have a home website, and then a .shopify website

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:36 PM

the .shopify is where I see the price etc.

LastRonin•6/21/24, 9:36 PM

Are we re-entering the torque wars?

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:36 PM

https://tenor.com/view/dom-toretto-dominic-dodge-charger-gif-27340985

Tenor

LastRonin•6/21/24, 9:36 PM

Now I'm interested

JJon (Bounty_V)They have a home website, and then a .shopify website

voidkitty•6/21/24, 9:37 PM

Checkout the link to the message on their discord

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:37 PM

doesn't work unless people are in the discord

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:37 PM

You can also take a pic of the message and share it here

LastRonin•6/21/24, 9:38 PM

Question is what is the software driving it going to look like, I understand they already have a background with cockpit building, but again a big advantage of Rhino is the extensibility of it essentially making custom effects outside of the sim

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:38 PM

Or more specifically the compatibility they aim to achieve

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:39 PM

Software Compatibility: Microsoft Simulator 2020, X-Plane 11 & 12, and Prepar3D V4.5.11 and higher

FREE FFB Tools Built-in Software Features (Windows 10 & 11 Only):
– Dual-yoke function for pilot and co-pilot yoke synchronization 
– Four-stage stick force curve adjustment for customized pitch & roll control profiles; ability to save & load customized profiles
– Easy-to-use interface for reading, setting, and resetting device parameters to factory settings
– Yoke Physics Simulation
– Engine Vibration Simulation
– Ground Roll Simulation
– Turbulence Simulation
– Stall Warning Simulation
Option to disable hardware trim when aircraft is on the ground

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:39 PM

The dual yoke function is really cool

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:39 PM

ngl

LastRonin•6/21/24, 9:40 PM

Some of those simulation features seem like they can work outside of sim, which would be important for rudders since right now a lot of the Rhino rudder features have to happen outside of the sim given the lack of FFB rudder support broadly

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:40 PM

I should mention this quote is from the yoke page, so idk how much of it applies to the pedals

LLastRonin Click to see attachment

nubbins•6/21/24, 9:41 PM

more FFB is better, but what is this powerpoint ass presentation quality lol

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:41 PM

I'll definitely be interested in something like this down the road once MSFS 24 is out and DCS C130 is out given someone has a way to make the yoke work in DCS

Nnubbins more FFB is better, but what is this powerpoint ass presentation quality lol

LastRonin•6/21/24, 9:42 PM

I think they ran it through the Office 365 design thing cause the layout looks similar

Nnubbins more FFB is better, but what is this powerpoint ass presentation quality lol

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:42 PM

To me it looks like someone took a pic of the actual slide in FSE from their phone

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:42 PM

You can see the left border of the projector screen maybe

JJon (Bounty_V)To me it looks like someone took a pic of the actual slide in FSE from their pho...

nubbins•6/21/24, 9:43 PM

i mean, doesn't really detract from the point that it doesn't exactly inspire confidence

nubbins•6/21/24, 9:43 PM

i get that companies are small, but FFB is a lot of money to be throwing around

nubbins•6/21/24, 9:43 PM

on this level of presentation effort

XXaero Zero Moza wheelbases are very famous for overheating with early revisions

WhiteHawk77•6/21/24, 9:43 PM

According to someone on Reddit when I mentioned the lack of fans and the Brunner that overheats easily he said his Moza wheel base never overheats and the motor has a large heatsink on them so shouldn’t in this case either, but I don’t know, there’s two of them in this compared to the one in a wheelbase.

I tend to agree on that though as I have a Fanatec DD2 wheelbase so a much stronger motor and that never overheats.

Also saw a few comments on the Rhino’s fans being very loud when they kick in, wasn’t happy to hear that.

LastRonin•6/21/24, 9:44 PM

Also MSFS 2024 should have more FFB features, at least that's what has been said

Jon (Bounty_V)•6/21/24, 9:45 PM

Let's take a step back and consider the company's history.

They're fairly new to the consumer public, and had a crowdfund project up on Indigogo for their yokes.

They're close to fulfilling Yoke orders, with current projected shipment according to shop page being end of July.

They are situated in China.

I remember a time when WinWing was pretty similar in terms of presentation quality. They've vastly improved their whole brand look over the years.

voidkitty•6/21/24, 9:46 PM

Another neat thing about their yoke is you can upgrade from a cls-60 to a cls-120 by just buying a new motor

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