Vrgineers, big partner with XTAL, is in partnership with the Somnium VR1 for military side distribut
Vrgineers, big partner with XTAL, is in partnership with the Somnium VR1 for military side distribution (presumed sim training and soldier training)
LWhich reminds me, the VR1 is priced similar to the XR4
JYeah
JBase model doesn't make sense for the price, and the full feature model is an AVP in price
JWhich makes Quest 3 still the most accessible mixed reality + hand tracking HMD for PC (given people can have a better way to utilize them on PC which isn't available atm)
LI still want to see how the PSVR2 does when the PC module comes out. Though right now it's lacking a lot of functionality outside basic integration
JYeah, though it is suspected one dev may get those features working at some point, the absence of them makes it too hard a sell for me to justify buying; I already have an Index and Quest 3.
LAlso the fresnel lenses but, depending on how good they are (haven't tried them), it might be better than low quality aspheric or pancake lenses. And that age old debate about how much light can get through the lens
Lwinwing talking force feedback
L
LSomeone asked who would be next? It's Winwing
JI feel like at this point we could just look at the order of speakers to know who will be next to announce ffb 
LYear of FFB. At least with SimApp we kind of know what to expect from winwing's implementation for better and worse
JYeah in a market stagnant for innovation and 'new' types of products, FFB will by default be far more exciting than anything else announced
JThis year's FSE gets an 11/10 from me so far
LStill looking for more on the rudder front particularly since that's ripe. I don't we'll see anything interesting on the throttle front though
JYeah agreed. Worst case there's always the FFB kit for MFG Crosswinds
LThe worst case is actually brunner
JIf one has the budget, yeah
JMFG crosswinds + ffb kit is some $800-900 when you factor shipping as well
Ahas there been even a hint of the turbo hyper mega taurus ffb throttle yet?
LWinWing presentation ended no throttle hints.
Jyeah big sadge
DI think throttle is coming, its just not ready to announce
LIf you could try and get anything out of them while on the floor that would be great. Something to at least say the project isn't dead
JLooking at the schedule it doesn't look like we can expect any presentations from Virpil or VKB. Virpil will have a presentation at their own booth, and focus on their new Cadet lineup.
LProbably that new CM4 looking throttle with the cadet grip
Jmost likely yeah
LA good question is since other people have gone low end. A cadet joystick something to compete with ursa/NXT?
DThrottle will make a comeback
IYou know what, I honestly think we can likely thank Walmis for all these new sticks. Companies no doubt saw how well his base was selling and decided to finally jump back into the market.
IIt can't be a coincidence that they release stick bases right when Walmis is hundreds of pre-orders in lol
Athere's no doubt that whatever FFB is in a few years it's largely thanks to vpforce
Athey proved that it can be done and there's interest because it's awesome
II still think VPForce will be the top dog. The software is what makes these sticks great. The configurator and TelemFFB are works of art.
IMakes the sim experience just incredible.
II wonder if TelemFFB could be made to work with the other bases eventually, maybe sell it as a paid software for non-Rhino owners.
LI think it relies on firmware. If there was a way to flash maybe. I could also see maybe some companies being willing to make an API.
LI agree. At some point sim community would need to erect a memorial somewhere for Walmis as a FFB pioneer.
NSome of the more magical things about TelemFFB's capabilities are due to walmis adding functionality to the firmware that is not part of the standard DirectX API. Which is why TelemFFB talks to the Rhino at the driver level and not via DirectX, which is also why it doesn't work with other FFB devices.
Nlooks expensive if the language is suggestive of the intended audience
IMakes sense. Your work and his work are just incredible. Huge hats off to y'all.
II was sold the moment I hopped into the UH-1H and it felt exactly like the real one I flew.
IWas an eye opening moment and I knew I had made a good purchase.
IForce trim on or off, the stick forces and feel was near identical to the real Huey.
BNeat
ODoes anyone ground mount this thing?
SI intend to
OHow so?
OIs there a commercial ground mount?
II just used a piece of nice looking plywood for the base of my setup.